Hermits, looks like you will be getting the inferior port this time around.

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#51 3picuri3
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how is this new? EA always messed up the PC versions. hell, they only do PC versions for Fifa / NHL now :|
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#52 SpideR_CentS
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Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles.
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#53 3picuri3
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Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles. SpideR_CentS
not always. gold used to be better on PC, and hockey used to be better too. quite a while ago though ;). but yeah, the TC is off anyways because NHL hasn't been better on PC for years and years now. nothing new. and i know PLENTY of people that would argue the racing one ;) for good reason. PC has some excellent racers that consoles never get.
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#54 blackdreamhunk
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Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles. SpideR_CentS
pc gaming does dominate all genres our fighting games are way more adavced than your fighting games. Those games would be all better on the pc too as well. You console players need rea game devs.
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OH NOS!!

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#56 clone01
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[QUOTE="-MaskedMan-"]

who cares about NHL 09 when theres Team Fortress 2 for $10 on steam?

no one

while team fortress is certainly a great game, your statement is very much an opinion.
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#57 clone01
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PC gamers like football....the good kind...you know the one you play with your feet. VIVA FIFA!Vandalvideo
what's wrong with American football? its a good sport, too.
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#58 anshul89
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Who cares about a silly sports game ? :?
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#59 AdrianWerner
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Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles. SpideR_CentS
I disagree about racing and sport games :) Depends on what kind of games you like. PC completely dominates racing simulators, while consoles dominate arcade racers, consoles do better in popular sports, but all niche sports and sport managers belong to PC.
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#60 clone01
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[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles. blackdreamhunk
pc gaming does dominate all genres our fighting games are way more adavced than your fighting games. Those games would be all better on the pc too as well. You console players need rea game devs.

what sports and fighting games dominate on PC?
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#61 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles. clone01
pc gaming does dominate all genres our fighting games are way more adavced than your fighting games. Those games would be all better on the pc too as well. You console players need rea game devs.

what sports and fighting games dominate on PC?

ya i would also really like to knopw about these way more advanced fighting games you speak of according to gamespot, their have been only 4 fighting games on the pc that scores higher than a 7, and 3 of them are form the 90's...
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#62 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gamers like football....the good kind...you know the one you play with your feet. VIVA FIFA!clone01
what's wrong with American football? its a good sport, too.

I'm merely making an observation about the PC audience. To say that we do not like sports games is a gross mischaracterization. Whenever I log onto xfire or steam I always see a bunch of people playing any number of sports games. The vast majority of these games are soccer games. Rarely do I see PC gamers care about or play football games. We like sports games, we just like *different* sports games.
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#63 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="clone01"] what sports and fighting games dominate on PC?

Fifa and MUGEN are pretty big.
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#64 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"] what sports and fighting games dominate on PC? Vandalvideo
Fifa and MUGEN are pretty big.

definitely Fifa. i've never heard of Mugen. what's it like?
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#65 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gamers like football....the good kind...you know the one you play with your feet. VIVA FIFA!Vandalvideo
what's wrong with American football? its a good sport, too.

I'm merely making an observation about the PC audience. To say that we do not like sports games is a gross mischaracterization. Whenever I log onto xfire or steam I always see a bunch of people playing any number of sports games. The vast majority of these games are soccer games. Rarely do I see PC gamers care about or play football games. We like sports games, we just like *different* sports games.

i'm just razzing you, Vandal ;) i played soccer growing up until high school (sadly, wasn't quite good enough to make the team - oh, well, track and cross country weren't so bad).
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#66 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="clone01"] definitely Fifa. i've never heard of Mugen. what's it like?

Mugen, or M.U.G.E.N, is a freeware fighting game where you can create your own characters to fight. It has a huge community since it is so open. It isn't rare to have Ronald McDonald fighting Peter from Family guy. The sheer creativity of the engine and people itself are what drives the game. It is huge on the PC.
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#67 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]pc gaming does dominate all genres our fighting games are way more adavced than your fighting games. Those games would be all better on the pc too as well. You console players need rea game devs.kidcool189
what sports and fighting games dominate on PC?

ya i would also really like to knopw about these way more advanced fighting games you speak of according to gamespot, their have been only 4 fighting games on the pc that scores higher than a 7, and 3 of them are form the 90's...

i'm sure there are good games on the PC in that genre. i just grow a little weary of BlackDreamHunk. he tends to make blanket statements that simply aren't true.
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#68 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"] definitely Fifa. i've never heard of Mugen. what's it like?Vandalvideo
Mugen, or M.U.G.E.N, is a freeware fighting game where you can create your own characters to fight. It has a huge community since it is so open. It isn't rare to have Ronald McDonald fighting Peter from Family guy. The sheer creativity of the engine and people itself are what drives the game. It is huge on the PC.

just did some googling. that is pretty cool.
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[QUOTE="clone01"] what sports and fighting games dominate on PC? Vandalvideo
Fifa and MUGEN are pretty big.

Fifa are you kidding? The game is garbage on pc. It feels really inferior to the console version. Mugen, frankly there is even mugen on the first xbox, pc has just no fighters to talk about. Racing depends if you want a real sim or just something like forza, playing a real sim involve having a wheel and the kind of setup your wife will never allow. This gen the only game that I bought on pc are the witcher, stalker, crysis, medieval total war, orange box and world in conflict. If it weren't for those game I think an xbox 360 would be enough.

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#70 voxware00
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sports and hardcore gaming do not belong in the same sentence

support a real franchise, support a real game.. people work hard coming up with original ideas and any **** can come around buy a licensed ip and rake in its profits for very little effort.. sounds like casual gaming to me

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sorry I was disconected because I was like installing new progrrams on my pc. fighting games such as fighting mmo's that are more adavanced than any fighting game on consoles. There are fighting games you can't in here in the west too as well because fighting games have not sold well in the west.
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#72 BaraChat
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]piff sports games they are a waste of time might as well go and play it for real and for much cheaperSalt_The_Fries
But teh injuriezzzzzzzz

:lol: Good one Salt The Fries.

Seriously sports game are great here where I live because you can't play much sports outside like 7 months out of 12. And I'm a horrible hockey player. That makes for good to great basket ball skills. Which is weird considering I live in Canada.

But in summers I'll take a real basket ball game without thinking over a game of NBA something.

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BU BU TEH HIGHER STANDARDS!! :lol:
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#74 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/937/937636p1.html

Ouch, not even close to the console score.

It seems to me that PC gaming is garbage for the entire sports genre. Which is a huge genre for both casuals and hardcores.

I wonder how EA butchered this port so much? The game was bound to be inferior anyways though, the skill stick is so essential to modern sports games that the keyboard and mouse simply cannot compete.

You do know on this invention called the computer, they have another invention called usb ports.. And with that invention they are able to plug in another invention called gamepads or any game perphial.. If anything the Pc has more controls then all the consoles combined.. Fail.
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#75 blackcee
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Lame thread.

PC gamers don't care about a shotty NHL port,..seems only the author of this bunk thread does.

I can use a controller,or KB/M with my PC, so it's pretty much a console killer!

Thx anyway for the "breaking news".

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#76 4u70
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Hermits act like PC dominates in all genre's but that is just false. Sports, Fighting games & Racing games are all better on consoles. SpideR_CentS
Sports and fighting games - i will agree. Sports games like this nhl game are little more than simplified speedy twitch RTSes. Fighting games are just sh*t - wont even try explaining why. Racing games? Oh dear. http://forum.racesimcentral.com/
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#77 Trinexxx
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Lame thread.

PC gamers don't care about a shotty NHL port,..seems only the author of this bunk thread does.

I can use a controller,or KB/M with my PC, so it's pretty much a console killer!

Thx anyway for the "breaking news".

blackcee

Too bad you can't play decent sports games on your PC. I find it hilarious how this doesn't matter (a AAA game being ported and reviewed as 5.5/10), yet other genres matter (like RTS's and RPG's, which the mainstream audience doesn't care for as much. Mainstream audience makes up the market, so without these casuals the video game market would collapse). So these sports games do matter. They are a HUGE part of the market and even games like NHL 09 will outsell many beloved games that are always discussed in System Wars (such as Dead Space). Don't believe me? Hit up the NDP numbers for proof.

Its sad to hear comments like "no one cares" because when we look at sales, many many people do care. Its just the ignorant people here who don't care simply because they don't understand. I understand that sports games aren't fun unless you know the rules or play the sports to fully understand them, and I guess many users on a video game forum wouldn't because they aren't very active people, but I really do feel pitty for the people who don't get to experience this style of life. To conclude, for the people who say "no one cares about the NHL outside of North America". You could not make a more ignorant post. Many of the players in the NHL are from countries such as Russia, Sweden, Czechoslovakia, Kazahkstan, France, etc. The league is even planning to expand into Europe in the distant future. Europeans do care about hockey, next time you make a post you should do your homework.

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[QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]Not only is it a sports game... but NHL?? Come on. Trinexxx

What's wrong with NHL?

QFT. Sick sig btw. I'm a huge Canucks fan as well, how awesome was the game against the Panthers tonight?

and how awesome was the Oilers ownage of the Canucks on Saturday :P

I totally agree tho on the points of this thread, its a big deal when a game gets ported with this kind of poor quality. Sports games are going to be more mainstream than the kind of games hotly debated here in SW. It gives a bad image to the PC and should not be dismissed so lightly. Also... how did this happen?! NHL09 rocked... shame to see it ruined like this for PC.

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#79 cody3232
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Also why all the sports game hate on gamespot.

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#80 mudman91878
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Ouch, not even close to the console score.

It seems to me that PC gaming is garbage for the entire sports genre. Which is a huge genre for both casuals and hardcores.

I wonder how EA butchered this port so much? The game was bound to be inferior anyways though, the skill stick is so essential to modern sports games that the keyboard and mouse simply cannot compete.

Trinexxx

Most multiplats are far better on PC. You naming one that isn't doesn't mean anything.

The list of multiplats that are better on PC is far longer than the list of multiplats that are better on console.

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#81 organic_machine
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I think it's all about audience. Why do sports games suck on PC? Because developers don't care that much. Why don't they care? Because no matter how good it is, it wont sell well. Why wont it sell well? Because it does not appeal to the PC gaming audience. It is just a different set of players. That is why Gears did well on the xbox and not so well on the PC. The game is clearly designed for the console gamer in mind.
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#82 householdman
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Sports games are even more casual than the Wii mini-games. Of the 40 odd PC Gamers I work with, only ONE buys sports games.
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#83 cody3232
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piff sports games they are a waste of time might as well go and play it for real and for much cheaperimprezawrx500

Ok well my edit decided to delete my messgae so im posting it again.
UMmmmmmm no it's cheaper to play ice hockey then to play nhl 09 on 360 or even ps3 for that matter.
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Oh no. NHL 09. Whatever am I to do without it...
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#85 SSCyborg
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Shame best NHL game ever
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#86 Trinexxx
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Sports games are even more casual than the Wii mini-games. Of the 40 odd PC Gamers I work with, only ONE buys sports games. householdman

HELL NO.

I mean, if you're talking about the audience of gamers, yeah sports games tend to attract "casuals". But if you have seen some of the best gamers and the competition in sports games (such as Madden or NHL), its a pretty hardcore genre. The people who are really good at these games are hardcore gamers. And these games also require plenty of teamwork. NHL 09 allows for 6 vs 6 games, so you really need to have different strategies in mind and know how to play welll with other players.

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#87 blackcee
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You missed the first line I wrote! Lame thread! I am a shooter fan first and all else follows that. I think consoles ARE superior to PC in a few categories- sports, racing, and fighting. IMO Most PC gamers just don't care if NHL even makes an appearance in PC, your point being how bad of a port it was is fine. It just seems you care about it more than the rest of us. caio!
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#88 mo0ksi
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I don't think many people would even bother playing Sports games on PC since that it's a genre mainly for consoles. If devs know that the genre is unpopular on PC, then they're not going to waste their time and no one is really getting shafted here. So you're just grasping for straws TC.
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#89 Salt_The_Fries
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But I know hardcore hermits still playing PES 2009 on keyboard.
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#90 clone01
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sorry I was disconected because I was like installing new progrrams on my pc. fighting games such as fighting mmo's that are more adavanced than any fighting game on consoles. There are fighting games you can't in here in the west too as well because fighting games have not sold well in the west.blackdreamhunk
examples?
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#91 XBebop
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The game was bound to be inferior anyways though, the skill stick is so essential to modern sports games that the keyboard and mouse simply cannot compete.

Trinexxx

No serious PC gamer would use mouse/keyboard for a sports game.

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#92 blackcee
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Trinexxx you wrote in another post the game NHL09 kept freezing on you.

Did you fix it?

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#93 rcignoni
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Sports games, meh.
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#94 Pinkyimp
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Ok show of hands, Which pc gamer wanted/hyped this?

*scilence*

Yeah, thought so.

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#95 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]sorry I was disconected because I was like installing new progrrams on my pc. fighting games such as fighting mmo's that are more adavanced than any fighting game on consoles. There are fighting games you can't in here in the west too as well because fighting games have not sold well in the west.clone01
examples?

ok I will list some of them.

http://video.mmosite.com/display.php?vid=8111&gid=559

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SswWj5Os-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxtu6uDLig

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Wow, I guess I shouldn't be surprised with the responses from this forum. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.Trinexxx
Ignorance on your part as well. It's not garbage for the entire sports genre. The manager type games are very popular outside of the United States. It's just the more action-oriented sports games that don't do well.
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#97 clone01
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]sorry I was disconected because I was like installing new progrrams on my pc. fighting games such as fighting mmo's that are more adavanced than any fighting game on consoles. There are fighting games you can't in here in the west too as well because fighting games have not sold well in the west.clone01
examples?

ok I will list some of them.

http://video.mmosite.com/display.php?vid=8111&gid=559

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SswWj5Os-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxtu6uDLig

wow, that's underwhelming. nothing that couldn't be done on any console, and really not impressive in the slightest.
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#98 blackdreamhunk
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if yoy did some reash there is alot more in aisa. those are just some exmples.
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#99 AvIdGaMeR444
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I'm sure hermits are crushed. :|

Who the heck plays NHL on PC anyway?

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#100 clone01
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if yoy did some reash there is alot more in aisa. those are just some exmples.blackdreamhunk
you mean more generic 2d fighters? pass. sorry, but PC gaming has some excellent things to offer, but fighters and sports games aren't one of them.