High end PC gaming, super power for less than you think.

So i posted this is the HardWare discussion forum (thinking of buying) but i thought i might as well post it here to finally kill dead any misconception that high end PCs cost upwards of £2,000.

This is a crossfire model with two 4850's and a good offer on each companat from the UKs biggest Hardware distubutor (no cheap parts for me!)

........ and yes, it will run crysis on Ultra :P

HDD (Ive got another 250GB already)

320 GB Seagate ST3320613AS Barracuda 7200.11, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.5 ms, NCQ

PSU (part i'm most unsure about)

630W HiperPower HPU-4M630-PE 85% Eff', PCI-E, UK + EU, Crossfire & SLI Certified

CPU

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700, Kentsfield Core, S775, 2.66 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, 10x Multiplier, OE

Memeory

4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066), 240Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-15, EPP

GPU

512MB XFX HD 4850 XXX, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 2100MHz GDDR3, GPU 650MHz, 800 Cores, 2x DLDVI-I/ HDTV, HDCP

(Two of these)^^

Xclio Windtunnel Extreme V2 Cooling Black Tower case with 2 x 25cm VR Side Fans - w/o PSU

Cooler, extras and so forth.

120mm Silverstone FN121 120mm Low Noise Case Fan 1200rpm

LG GH22NP20 AUAA50B 22x DVD±R, 12x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, DVD-RAM x12, IDE Black OEM

LG DH16NS10.AUAA10B 16x Internal DVDROM, Black Bare Drive, SATA, OEM

Akasa AK-965 x3 Copper Heatpipe Cooler Intel Core2Quad/Duo with 92mm side blow fan, Intel push pin

Total Price £568 (including offers, so don't tell me my additon is wrong )

So here you go SW, PC gaming is more expensive but for high end parts even in the EU it will cost less than you think, it also has the most games to play on this beast and hey, once you factor in the noraml price of a PC, say £300, you begin to see how much of a good deal it can be. Rember folks this is meant to be a beast, most people playing at normal resolutions woun't need this much power to get a decent experice out of it.

*EDIT*

Woops, forgot to post MoBo, there are about actually 6 i am looking through,

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/DFI-Blood-Iron-BI-P45-T2RS-Intel-P45-Express-S-775-PCI-E-20-(x16)-DDR2-1066-SATA-RAID-ATX

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-P5Q-PRO-iP45-S-775-PCI-E-20-(x16)-DDR2-1200MHz-SATA-II-SATA-RAID-ATX

are the two front runners.

I'm beginning to feel ripped off. I paid around that much 4 months ago.

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

post it here to finally kill dead any misconception that high end PCs cost upwards of £2,000.

BoloTheGreat

That's a great PC btw. I bought mine last christmas for around $550 and it runs everything except Crysis and E:TW flawlessly.

you can get a wii, 360 elite and ps3 80gig for that price......lawlz

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Filthybastrd

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Filthybastrd

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

BoloTheGreat

with 4 Gb ram, you're going to need a 64 bit OS at least. And I'm not saying PC gaming is always expensive but it's there is'nt neccesarily a cheap way to go about it either.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

sikanderahmed

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

you can get a wii, 360 elite and ps3 80gig for that price......lawlz

sikanderahmed

You are going to need more ram to run Crysis on Ultra on a Vista box.I'd go for 8 gigs instead of 4, which you should do anyway.Ram is dirt cheap now , you might as well max out the rig. And for a dual GPU rig that power supply is lacking. 320 gigs? meh.

The case is a bit goofy also. Not bad though, but it can be better for not that much more cash.

you can get a wii, 360 elite and ps3 80gig for that price......lawlz

sikanderahmed

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Pinkyimp

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

You are going to need more ram to run Crysis on Ultra on a Vista box.I'd go for 8 gigs instead of 4, which you should do anyway.Ram is dirt cheap now , you might as well max out the rig. And for a dual GPU rig that power supply is lacking. 320 gigs? meh.

The case is a bit goofy also. Not bad though, but it can be better for not that much more cash.

heretrix

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Filthybastrd

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

BoloTheGreat

everyone who buys a console probably has a tv. if a bought a pc, i would get a monitor, KB/M and OS (and also ofcourse teh anti-virus as well) with it, add in those prices as well and you are looking at something well over £600

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

imprezawrx500

I got some random laptop from Futureshop for only 700 bucks and it can play Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Unreal Tournament 3, Assassin's Creed, and all the new games on the consoles.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

sikanderahmed

everyone who buys a console probably has a tv. if a bought a pc, i would get a monitor, KB/M and OS (and also ofcourse teh anti-virus as well) with it, add in those prices as well and you are looking at something well over £600

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are going to need more ram to run Crysis on Ultra on a Vista box.I'd go for 8 gigs instead of 4, which you should do anyway.Ram is dirt cheap now , you might as well max out the rig. And for a dual GPU rig that power supply is lacking. 320 gigs? meh.

The case is a bit goofy also. Not bad though, but it can be better for not that much more cash.

BoloTheGreat

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

BoloTheGreat

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] [QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Pinkyimp

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Which hermits are those?, anybody who is not completely computer stupid knows you need more than just the CPU to run the latest games. But then again you wouldn't know that with your "Custom ATI Graphics Processor running at 3.2 GHZ each" Or your Hilariously low 512 MB of Ram... But anyways sounds like a great computer you got on your hands Bolo, GL on your build.Filthybastrd

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"] I didn't know x360s had started shipping with hdtvs. add $20 for keyboard and mouse and $100 for vista. You could easily build one that is 1/3 less than that and still play games much much better than consoles. BoloTheGreat

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]Vista cost more than 100 bucks. Vista Home basic is close to twice that.

heretrix

That's quite expensive, and you could get it a lot cheaper if you look around. It's far more expensive than any console anyway.

EDIT: And where exactly is your motherboard?

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Thankx :D, the un-informed hate here is laughable "Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" :lol:BoloTheGreat

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Filthybastrd

Price for the system only.

Most people already own a KB/M, and Ubuntu (or pretty much any Linux distro) can be found for free.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

Filthybastrd

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

swazidoughman

Price for the system only.

Most people already own a KB/M, and Ubuntu (or pretty much any Linux distro) can be found for free.

And can Ubuntu be used to play games?

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Again, not a factor, Consoes don't ship with HDTVs and extra controllers do they? should we factor those things in? BoloTheGreat

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

In a more expensive country than you obviously.. the 360 Arcade is the equivalent of 300 USD. I'm not trying to say that PC gaming is hideously expensive but you guys act like it's practically free...

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Again, not a factor, Consoes don't ship with HDTVs and extra controllers do they? should we factor those things in? BoloTheGreat

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

Why would you buy Vista? It's horrible :(. OS isn't much an issues, most people will have a copy of XP kicking around, and even if you don't you can get one for free from various legal sources, such as if you are a student and what not.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

Ek-Andy

Why would you buy Vista? It's horrible :(. OS isn't much an issues, most people will have a copy of XP kicking around, and even if you don't you can get one for free from various legal sources, such as if you are a student and what not.

Is your old OS 64 bit? then you're going to have to upgrade with 4 gigs of ram.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

Ek-Andy

Why would you buy Vista? It's horrible :(. OS isn't much an issues, most people will have a copy of XP kicking around, and even if you don't you can get one for free from various legal sources, such as if you are a student and what not.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Ek-Andy

Price for the system only.

Most people already own a KB/M, and Ubuntu (or pretty much any Linux distro) can be found for free.

And can Ubuntu be used to play games?

Yeah it can.

ReactOS (which is essentially an open source Windows distro) is also going to be coming out soon.

[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Well it isn't becuase i already have those things. Jesus why do people insist on tacking on extras when people quote a price? "Where you live" where the hell do you live? i bought vista home premium OEM about 6 months ago and it was £62

Filthybastrd

Why would you buy Vista? It's horrible :(. OS isn't much an issues, most people will have a copy of XP kicking around, and even if you don't you can get one for free from various legal sources, such as if you are a student and what not.

Is your old OS 64 bit? then you're going to have to upgrade with 4 gigs of ram.

[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Price for the system only.

Most people already own a KB/M, and Ubuntu (or pretty much any Linux distro) can be found for free.

swazidoughman

And can Ubuntu be used to play games?

Yeah it can.

ReactOS (which is essentially an open source Windows distro) is also going to be coming out soon.

Really? Though you say it is coming out soon, and not actually now so I take it it can't be used to play games right now then? I'd say that is questionable but it might be true.

[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Well it isn't becuase i already have those things. Jesus why do people insist on tacking on extras when people quote a price? "Where you live" where the hell do you live? i bought vista home premium OEM about 6 months ago and it was £62

BoloTheGreat

Why would you buy Vista? It's horrible :(. OS isn't much an issues, most people will have a copy of XP kicking around, and even if you don't you can get one for free from various legal sources, such as if you are a student and what not.

I'm a guy with a laptop. So I have to buy all the peripherals along with a new OS since I'll get more than 3 gigs of ram. Some of the "uninformed" are in fact just people who don't have old stuff to carry over to the new pc.

Sure PC gaming is cheap if you're already in a favourable position.

Yeah that's a good build, not dirt cheap but reasonably priced. If you switch to 1x4870 or 2x4770 you could prolly squeeze in 64 bit Vista Basic OEM in at the same price and it would still be pretty high-end.mr_mozilla

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Which hermits are those?, anybody who is not completely computer stupid knows you need more than just the CPU to run the latest games. But then again you wouldn't know that with your "Custom ATI Graphics Processor running at 3.2 GHZ each" Or your Hilariously low 512 MB of Ram... But anyways sounds like a great computer you got on your hands Bolo, GL on your build.Filthybastrd

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

Filthybastrd

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

You should stop repeating yourself when you're wrong. If a PC needs a screen, mouse, keyboard, OS then your console needs a 52' Pioneer Kudo screen, 4 controllers, every possible pheriphal and the highest possible HD, oh and atleast 5 years of XLive incase it's a X360.

You can actually get a better PC if you go the AMD/ATI way.

Case & Power - Antec Sonata III + EC EarthWatt 500 - 110EU

Mobo - MSI K9A2 CF-F - 70EU

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 940 - 170EU

GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD4890 1GB Vapor-X - 210EU

Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB - 50EU

Corsair Dominator TWIN2X 4096-8500 4GB -70EU

CPU Cooler - OCZ Vendetta 2 - 30

This costs about 700EU, then again this thing is a beast and will run any game without any hassle.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

Why would you buy Vista? It's horrible :(. OS isn't much an issues, most people will have a copy of XP kicking around, and even if you don't you can get one for free from various legal sources, such as if you are a student and what not.

Filthybastrd

I'm a guy with a laptop. So I have to buy all the peripherals along with a new OS since I'll get more than 3 gigs of ram. Some of the "uninformed" are in fact just people who don't have old stuff to carry over to the new pc.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Where's the mouse, keyboard, screen and OS?

Even if you're using your old parts (not an option for some of us) you're going to need a 64 bit OS.

Pinkyimp

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

512MB is enough for console, more RAM is needed on pc coz of its OS, consoles dont need that.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] I am a student (m,y dad wanted the vista TBH) i have XP media centre addition disk too, i have a partitioned hard drive with XP/Vista/Ubuntu. I can install any of the 3 without cost on my new PC ,why do the un-informed act like it's such a HUGE expense? :?BoloTheGreat

I'm a guy with a laptop. So I have to buy all the peripherals along with a new OS since I'll get more than 3 gigs of ram. Some of the "uninformed" are in fact just people who don't have old stuff to carry over to the new pc.

No, I own a laptop and want a gaming rig...

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

sikanderahmed

512MB is enough for console, more RAM is needed on pc coz of its OS, consoles dont need that.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

agreed, i just dont understand why hermits all that, they just think CPU is all thats needed

sikanderahmed

512MB is enough for console, more RAM is needed on pc coz of its OS, consoles dont need that.

I've got to ask again, where is the motherboard? I didn't see it in the first post.

I see it didn't take long for the consolites to start cramming console standards down PC users throats; then get upset/angry when they wouldn't accept them.

Unlike consoles we can improve our system without replacing the whole thing, yet whenever I see these threads you always get "where is the monitor, OS and mouse & keyboard?".

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Again, not a factor, Consoes don't ship with HDTVs and extra controllers do they? should we factor those things in? CAPSROGUE

Extra controllers? I do need at least 1 keyboard and 1 mouse use the rig... and where I live, the OEM version of Vista Home Premium 64 is the equivalent of 190 USD.

In fact, I'm pretty sure TC's rig would be a 1 grand machine already.

You should stop repeating yourself when you're wrong. If a PC needs a screen, mouse, keyboard, OS then your console needs a 52' Pioneer Kudo screen, 4 controllers, every possible pheriphal and the highest possible HD, oh and atleast 5 years of XLive incase it's a X360.

You can actually get a better PC if you go the AMD/ATI way.

Case & Power - Antec Sonata III + EC EarthWatt 500 - 110EU

Mobo - MSI K9A2 CF-F - 70EU

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 940 - 170EU

GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD4890 1GB Vapor-X - 210EU

Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB - 50EU

Corsair Dominator TWIN2X 4096-8500 4GB -70EU

CPU Cooler - OCZ Vendetta 2 - 30

This costs about 700EU, then again this thing is a beast and will run any game without any hassle.

No I need a reasonable hdtv and the controller that comes with my console.

If I don't already have a keyboard, mouse, screen and appropriate OS do I not need to purchase them?