HIgher price as a reason PC gaming is infierior to console gaming is foolish.

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#1 nmaharg
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Just because it costs more its worse? Get the F out of here. Thats dumb as hell. And no you don't need $2500 to play cyrsis or the like.

It's damn cheap to build a PC these days.
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Jealousy is a horrible human trait...... It is the reason behind the hatred of PC gaming in system wars.
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#3 Heil68
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how much for the OS?
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#4 musicalmac  Moderator
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Well if that's the case, then it's stupid to falsly critisize Apple for pricing their products too high. Awesome. Thanks for that.
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#5 nmaharg
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how much for the OS?Heil68

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

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#6 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?nmaharg

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

How can I get it free?
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costing more does not make it worse, but it is a definite minus. a certain playstation console has shown that arguement to be more than viable..
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#8 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?nmaharg

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?Heil68

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

How can I get it free?



Go to college - major in anything related to computers - sign up for a computer-related course - enroll in MSDNAA - order XP or Vista - enjoy.
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?Heil68

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

How can I get it free?

If you work for a business which needs those kinds of things you can get it for very cheap. I am going to get Windows Vista for $10.
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#11 nmaharg
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costing more does not make it worse, but it is a definite minus. a certain playstation console has shown that arguement to be more than viable..shivaskunk9mm

WRONG! It just makes it more expensive, that is all. The reason PS3 can't sell is because it offers no games. I bet if it launched with FFXIII and MGS4 it would be leading right now no matter the price.

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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?musicalmac

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?



Yay for assumptions. Many high school and college students recieve Microsoft software for free, or at severely reduced cost, through the MSDN Academic Alliance.
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Just because it costs more its worse? Get the F out of here. Thats dumb as hell. And no you don't need $2500 to play cyrsis or the like.

It's damn cheap to build a PC these days.nmaharg

From what I understand Crysis requirements haven't been released.

How much would a PC cost to run Hellgate London?

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#14 Gangans
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Well if that's the case, then it's stupid to falsly critisize Apple for pricing their products too high. Awesome. Thanks for that.musicalmac

Apple comps are criticized for their inflexibility, not always their price. Apple is the worst nightmare of pc customization. And come to think of it they ARE overpriced. You DON'T get what you paid for. You pay for the brand.

You can't use the same argument with consoles vs pcs. Pc's have superior hardware, capabilities and custimization thus the higher price. Apple comps offer the same hardware as pc, same capabilities, inferior flexibility yet a higher price!

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#15 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?musicalmac

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?

Wrong again. I hate console sheep, so damn blind.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?subrosian

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

How can I get it free?



Go to college - major in anything related to computers - sign up for a computer-related course - enroll in MSDNAA - order XP or Vista - enjoy.

I graduated college...next?
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#17 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?nmaharg

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?

Wrong again. I hate console sheep, so damn blind.

I don't think he is a console sheep.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?subrosian

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?



Yay for assumptions. Many high school and college students recieve Microsoft software for free, or at severely reduced cost, through the MSDN Academic Alliance.

I know. I got Vista for 5 dollars because I work at a college. My subtle way of asking how he acquired his "Free" copy was perhaps too subtle...
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Just because it costs more its worse? Get the F out of here. Thats dumb as hell. And no you don't need $2500 to play cyrsis or the like.

It's damn cheap to build a PC these days.xDonRobx

From what I understand Crysis requirements haven't been released.

How much would a PC cost to run Hellgate London?

You're right but they have to run the game on something to show it off. And it was running on a e6600, 2gb ram, and an 8800 at e3. And thats the specs I posted, minus the cpu. But the cpu can reach 3.0 ghz easy.

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#20 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?nmaharg

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?

Wrong again. I hate console sheep, so damn blind.

Who's making all the assumptions now?... Whoa...
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Just because it costs more its worse? Get the F out of here. Thats dumb as hell. And no you don't need $2500 to play cyrsis or the like.

It's damn cheap to build a PC these days.xDonRobx

From what I understand Crysis requirements haven't been released.

How much would a PC cost to run Hellgate London?

Illogical question, a pc does a hell of a lot more than a console at the same price point anyway. Yet no self-respecting pc gamer would skimp out on components just to save money, he would get the best. thus he would spend more than he would have had he bought a crippled little toy pc...err i mean console.

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#22 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?smokeydabear076

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

Yay for software piracy :?

Wrong again. I hate console sheep, so damn blind.

I don't think he is a console sheep.

Just blind then.

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#23 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Well if that's the case, then it's stupid to falsly critisize Apple for pricing their products too high. Awesome. Thanks for that.Gangans

Apple comps are criticized for their inflexibility, not always their price. Apple is the worst nightmare of pc customization. And come to think of it they ARE overpriced. You DON'T get what you paid for. You pay for the brand.

You can't use the same argument with consoles vs pcs. Pc's have superior hardware, capabilities and custimization thus the higher price. Apple comps offer the same hardware as pc, same capabilities, inferior flexibility yet a higher price!

Here we go again :roll:
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?Heil68

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

How can I get it free?



Go to college - major in anything related to computers - sign up for a computer-related course - enroll in MSDNAA - order XP or Vista - enjoy.

I graduated college...next?



Join the MSDN assuming you do computer-related stuff (very specific statement there).
Buy some new PC parts from Newegg and get an OEM OS for less money
Call Microsoft and beg

All great options, the last one is sort of a YMMV
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Funny thing is I have spent more on consoles in the last few years then my PC. I have only bought a HDTV and a 360 this genertion but that cost way more then my last PC upgrade.
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#26 Heil68
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I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.
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[QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Just because it costs more its worse? Get the F out of here. Thats dumb as hell. And no you don't need $2500 to play cyrsis or the like.

It's damn cheap to build a PC these days.Gangans

From what I understand Crysis requirements haven't been released.

How much would a PC cost to run Hellgate London?

Illogical question, a pc does a hell of a lot more than a console at the same price point anyway. Yet no self-respecting pc gamer would skimp out on components just to save money, he would get the best. thus he would spend more than he would have had he bought a crippled little toy pc...err i mean console.

Wtf are you talking about? I wanna build a PC to play Hellgate London, I don't know all the requirements for the game, or know what pieces to get so I asked. How the f*** is that illogical?

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#28 nmaharg
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I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.Heil68

Hit up ebay, you can buy a copy of vista for about $40. Didn't add the rest because it can vary alot. Depends on the person, so you figure what you would want out. But still all together you can run cyrsis for about $700-$900. Not ba at all.

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[QUOTE="Gangans"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Just because it costs more its worse? Get the F out of here. Thats dumb as hell. And no you don't need $2500 to play cyrsis or the like.

It's damn cheap to build a PC these days.xDonRobx

From what I understand Crysis requirements haven't been released.

How much would a PC cost to run Hellgate London?

Illogical question, a pc does a hell of a lot more than a console at the same price point anyway. Yet no self-respecting pc gamer would skimp out on components just to save money, he would get the best. thus he would spend more than he would have had he bought a crippled little toy pc...err i mean console.

Wtf are you talking about? I wanna build a PC to play Hellgate London, I don't know all the requirements for the game, or know what pieces to get so I asked. How the f*** is that illogical?

It is illogical because the game hasn't been released. Do you know the game requirement for hellgate london? I don't.

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I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.Heil68
What are you typing on?
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]how much for the OS?Heil68

Depends on who you ask. For me, not a damn thing.

How can I get it free?



Go to college - major in anything related to computers - sign up for a computer-related course - enroll in MSDNAA - order XP or Vista - enjoy.

I graduated college...next?

Linux + wine?

http://appdb.winehq.org/

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.froidnite
What are you typing on?

my laptop.
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how much for the OS?Heil68
Here is Vista.

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Linux + Wine = Sucks
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[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.Heil68
What are you typing on?

my laptop.

Is there a possiblity that you have a keyboard and a mouse around somewhere or no, you just don't have them?
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But PC gaming sucks :|.

I played the game, I dropped $2500 on a gaming computer 3 years ago, at the time you could get no better...I played WoW, Everquest 2, Star Wars Galaxies, Starcraft, Warcraft 3, Oblivion, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R on it...that's it. No other games even remotely interested me.

Thank god I needed alot of video editing power for my major, or else I would have felt severely cheated.

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1.6GHz processor speed? It may run crysis, but will it run it atacceptable settings? What aboutan OS, case, and PSU? Also what about a monitor, it has to factored into the price seeing as how regular crt's don't come with pc inputs. Eithera monitor or an HDTV.

All in all it's about personal preference. I personally don't like RTS and RPG's, yet I love shooters which the majority can be found on consoles as well. It can also be somewhat of a hassle having to buy all those components seperate and build a rig up from scracth for some people. Being hunched over in a computer chair looking at a 17" monitor from 1 foot away isn't excatly comfortable for most people either.

P.S. Having to upgrade every 6-12 months can be a hassle as well and just factors more money into the cost of having a gaming pc.

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[QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="Gangans"]

Illogical question, a pc does a hell of a lot more than a console at the same price point anyway. Yet no self-respecting pc gamer would skimp out on components just to save money, he would get the best. thus he would spend more than he would have had he bought a crippled little toy pc...err i mean console.

Gangans

Wtf are you talking about? I wanna build a PC to play Hellgate London, I don't know all the requirements for the game, or know what pieces to get so I asked. How the f*** is that illogical?

It is illogical because the game hasn't been released. Do you know the game requirement for hellgate london? I don't.

Theres some thread in the PC Games section, I'm almost sure I saw requirements for the game in one of the sticky threads. I'll go look for it.

Nevermind..either I was just seeing things or it got removed. (There were a few other games that got removed that I saw)

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.smokeydabear076
What are you typing on?

my laptop.

Is there a possiblity that you have a keyboard and a mouse around somewhere or no, you just don't have them?

He didn't ask that. ;)
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#40 Gangans
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But PC gaming sucks :|.

I played the game, I dropped $2500 on a gaming computer 3 years ago, at the time you could get no better...I played WoW, Everquest 2, Star Wars Galaxies, Starcraft, Warcraft 3, Oblivion, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R on it...that's it. No other games even remotely interested me.

Thank god I needed alot of video editing power for my major, or else I would have felt severely cheated.

TheSystemLord1

whatever floats ur boat.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.nmaharg

Hit up ebay, you can buy a copy of vista for about $40. Didn't add the rest because it can vary alot. Depends on the person, so you figure what you would want out. But still all together you can run cyrsis for about $700-$900. Not ba at all.

$900 for 1 game?! Wow, what an amazing deal!

I could spend $900 to run mediocre FPS and RTS over and over again...great!....not.

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#42 smokeydabear076
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He didn't ask that. ;)Heil68
Good point. ;)
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#43 Gangans
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.TheSystemLord1

Hit up ebay, you can buy a copy of vista for about $40. Didn't add the rest because it can vary alot. Depends on the person, so you figure what you would want out. But still all together you can run cyrsis for about $700-$900. Not ba at all.

$900 for 1 game?! Wow, what an amazing deal!

I could spend $900 to run mediocre FPS and RTS over and over again...great!....not.

I could spend $800 for a ps3 with NO games. I hope this puts things into perspective for you. Not all countries enjoy such ridiculously high ps3 prices, some enjoy EVEN higher prices for this glorified bluray player.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.Heil68
What are you typing on?

my laptop.

Is there a possiblity that you have a keyboard and a mouse around somewhere or no, you just don't have them?

He didn't ask that. ;)

Now I am. And what Os are you running
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#45 Metroid_Time
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1.6GHz processor speed? It may run crysis, but will it run it atacceptable settings?

CB4McGusto

It is a 1.6 Ghz CORE2DUO! It would easily beat a 3.2Ghz Pentium 4.

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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.TheSystemLord1

Hit up ebay, you can buy a copy of vista for about $40. Didn't add the rest because it can vary alot. Depends on the person, so you figure what you would want out. But still all together you can run cyrsis for about $700-$900. Not ba at all.

$900 for 1 game?! Wow, what an amazing deal!

I could spend $900 to run mediocre FPS and RTS over and over again...great!....not.

But thats not a reason according to the TC :shock:
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#47 musicalmac  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 25101 Posts
[QUOTE="Heil68"] He didn't ask that. ;)

Heil you cheeky fellow ;)
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#48 nmaharg
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1.6GHz processor speed? It may run crysis, but will it run itatacceptable settings? What aboutan OS,case, andPSU? Also what about a monitor, it has to factored into the price seeing as how regular crt's don't come with pc inputs. Eithera monitoror an HDTV.

All in all it's about personal preference. I personally don't like RTS and RPG's, yet I love shooters which the majority can be found on consoles as well. It can also be somewhat of a hassle having to buy all those components seperate and build a rig up from scracth for some people. Hunched over in a computer chair looking at a 17" monitor from 1 foot away isn't excatly comfortable for most people either.

CB4McGusto

Your right it does depend on the person. No one is forcing you to play on a monitor. I play most of my games on the tv in my living room. PC has a little bit of everything so I can't see how anyone could try and say they can't find games they like. Look harder.

Oh and that cpu is killer, for $75 you can get it to about 3.0 ghz pretty easy too. I would stop at about 2.66 though, no need for the extra volts and heat imo.

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#49 Heil68
Member since 2004 • 60812 Posts
[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see case/power supply, keyboard and mouse and I cant get a OS or free, so thats another $120 plus the cost of the mentioned items.froidnite
What are you typing on?

my laptop.

Is there a possiblity that you have a keyboard and a mouse around somewhere or no, you just don't have them?

He didn't ask that. ;)

Now I am. And what Os are you running

Windows media center on my laptop.
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#50 TheSystemLord1
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But PC gaming sucks :|.

I played the game, I dropped $2500 on a gaming computer 3 years ago, at the time you could get no better...I played WoW, Everquest 2, Star Wars Galaxies, Starcraft, Warcraft 3, Oblivion, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R on it...that's it. No other games even remotely interested me.

Thank god I needed alot of video editing power for my major, or else I would have felt severely cheated.

Gangans

whatever floats ur boat.

Uh yeah, PC gaming does suck, I play games that are optimized for the hardware I did a 1 time purchase of $479 for. Not to mention that the PC is good for nothing but FPS and RTS (seriously....madden on the PC? Don't make me laugh), I happen to like JRPG's, where are all of those for the PC, and even when they are released, they suck (I played FF7 and 8 on the PC, don't make me laugh). Come off the high horse, Crysis is not the be all end all of video games.

I'd rather play Halo 3 in september, Grand Theft Auto 4, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Fable 2, Stranglehold, Forza 2, Dead Rising, Perfect Dark 0, Infinite Undiscovery, Lost Odyssey, Madden 2008, NCAA 2008, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Killzone 2, KH3, FF13 and VS, MGS 4, Uncharted, Warhawk, Resistance, Gran Turismo 5, Ratchet and Clank, Jak, watch Blu-Ray movies and HD-DVD movies and hundreds more games on my two consoles for the same price you paid to play Crysis for the next 5 years.