history repeating itself ( sony related)

The Ps2 had some great exclusives in its 1st year and it had a year head start over the xbox and the gamecube.

The ps3 has neither of those.

The Ps2 had some great exclusives in its 1st year and it had a year head start over the xbox and the gamecube.

The ps3 has neither of those.

whocares4peace

PS2 first year was terrible don't forget that!

The past is dead. Stop bringing it up. If so i could say well is Nintendo back cause Super Nes started off losing to Sega and then when Donkey Kong Country came out it blew past it in sales? No.

I feel that the PS3 will overtake the 360 down the road just based on common sense. Do i own one? No, i do have a ps 1 and 2 though, but i also have the 360 and enjoy it. Once some of those main games hit the PS3 it don't matter how bad the ram is or how silly it is to make games for it, Final Fantasy(As much as it has sucked since 6) Will sell systems all over. Maybe not on scale of Halo 3 in terms of sales of course, but it will sell systems. Just like Nintendo, oh they have been going down hill since N64 and well i agree there never be what they were in the early 90's ever again, but once a Mario hits for it, its gonna sell systems.

If people today stopped crying all the time and worrying to much on a reviewers score all the time, maybe gaming would be fun again. Instead it has turned into the music buisness...full of crap and shoved out the door for the quick buck. I can see Apple doing iGames in a few years and forcing people to dl games onto a 1 inch screen that you can touch.

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The Ps2 had some great exclusives in its 1st year and it had a year head start over the xbox and the gamecube.

The ps3 has neither of those.

Athonline

PS2 first year was terrible don't forget that!

Not really a terrible year.

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The Ps2 had some great exclusives in its 1st year and it had a year head start over the xbox and the gamecube.

The ps3 has neither of those.

whocares4peace

PS2 first year was terrible don't forget that!

Not really a terrible year.

We both know that MGS2 didn't sell very well ouside Japan. But anyway. What I mean first year of PS2 was terrible compare after 2002. It sold nearly 10 mil. in the next 5 years, it sold 110 more mill. so what I meam, all consoles need at least a year until we can judge them!

when the ps2 launched it went from cd-rom to dvd-rom and the masses said it's not needed right now and it costs to much. now 120 million plus units later they were wrong. my point is that the ps3 is going through the same scenario going from dvd to blu ray sony builds their systems for the future and it may not be needed now ( which i think it is ) but it will be very soon.so to the sony haters be fair warned that the sky is the limit for this system.patrickjw333

Why don't the cows come up with better excuses on why the PS3 is bombing in sales, like the PS2 and PS3 are both "Black" when launched and see how sucessful the PS2 was.

I guess people have to grasp at anything they can to give the "hope", and at the horrid sales of the PS3, cows need as much hope as they can get.

does history teach lemms nothing?stefanlek

If history meant something then N64 would have killed Playstation 1.

If Console Specs meant something then the sega saturn and dreamcasts would still have killed competition.

If fanboys ramblings meant something then we may as well get a gun, point it to our heads and pull the trigger.

[QUOTE="stefanlek"]does history teach lemms nothing?Zenkuso

If history meant something then N64 would have killed Playstation 1.

If Console Specs meant something then the sega saturn and dreamcasts would still have killed competition.

If fanboys ramblings meant something then we may as well get a gun, point it to our heads and pull the trigger.

History does mean something as in "The 3rd console curse"! *spooky music starts playing* *evil laughter from a distance can be heard*

[QUOTE="Palax"]It's not even worth posting in this topic. QUOTE]

is it worth posting in any topic on system wars. if we look at it objectively posting on system warsalmost never has any benefits. tbh i dont even know why i bother visiting this war-zone

DVD had no competition!

Blu-ray has it will take a while for the winner to be visible.

we can't compare blu-ray to dvd for one simple reason: dvd didn't require the purchase of a new tv.

Hd sets, I mean the good ones, are 1000 plus

DVD had no competition!

Blu-ray has it will take a while for the winner to be visible.

sadikovic

agreed, plus to enjoy Blue-ray you need a HD set. which wasn't needed when people turned from CD's to DVD's.

when the ps2 launched it went from cd-rom to dvd-rom and the masses said it's not needed right now and it costs to much. now 120 million plus units later they were wrong. my point is that the ps3 is going through the same scenario going from dvd to blu ray sony builds their systems for the future and it may not be needed now ( which i think it is ) but it will be very soon.so to the sony haters be fair warned that the sky is the limit for this system.patrickjw333

well if you want history repeating itselft then consider this: No company has ever stayed in first place for more then 2 console wars in a row, how about them apples?

we can't compare blu-ray to dvd for one simple reason: dvd didn't require the purchase of a new tv.

Hd sets, I mean the good ones, are 1000 plus

soiguessialive

Ahh, logic. Your SW credibility goes up one point! Wish there was more of it here.

does history teach lemms nothing?stefanlek

[QUOTE="stefanlek"]does history teach lemms nothing?KodiakGTS

we can't compare blu-ray to dvd for one simple reason: dvd didn't require the purchase of a new tv.

Hd sets, I mean the good ones, are 1000 plus

soiguessialive

When DVD was released most TVs didn't have the composite connections required for DVD playback.skektek

What on earth are you talking about? Even we europeans have had better connections than that on our TVs since like '84 or something, I have a very hard time believing that americans have had it worse.

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Athonline"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The Ps2 had some great exclusives in its 1st year and it had a year head start over the xbox and the gamecube.

The ps3 has neither of those.

Athonline

PS2 first year was terrible don't forget that!

Not really a terrible year.

We both know that MGS2 didn't sell very well ouside Japan. But anyway. What I mean first year of PS2 was terrible compare after 2002. It sold nearly 10 mil. in the next 5 years, it sold 110 more mill. so what I meam, all consoles need at least a year until we can judge them!

I agree.

And the PS3 is coming up on the end of it's first year next month.

[QUOTE="skektek"]When DVD was released most TVs didn't have the composite connections required for DVD playback.Pripyat

What on earth are you talking about? Even we europeans have had better connections than that on our TVs since like '84 or something, I have a very hard time believing that americans have had it worse.

[QUOTE="stefanlek"]does history teach lemms nothing?KodiakGTS

And you're forgetting that they way Sony and MS are working are very different. The Playstation brand is extremely strong. MS never makes games like SOTC,Ico and LBP just because they want it to play it safely. That's what I personally think differs Sony from competition. They're not afraid of trying new stuff despite of the budget.

The Ps2 had some great exclusives in its 1st year and it had a year head start over the xbox and the gamecube.

The ps3 has neither of those.

whocares4peace

[QUOTE="KodiakGTS"][QUOTE="stefanlek"]does history teach lemms nothing?azad_champ

The Playstation brand is extremely strong. MS never makes games like SOTC,Ico and LBP just because they want it to play it safely.

So were Atari, Sega, and Nintendo :|

Also, Sony didn't make those games. They published them. Most of the PS2's support came form the fact it was doing so well, and LBP is on the PS3 because the devs didn't like the Wii.

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[QUOTE="KodiakGTS"][QUOTE="stefanlek"]does history teach lemms nothing?MegaPigeon

The Playstation brand is extremely strong. MS never makes games like SOTC,Ico and LBP just because they want it to play it safely.

So were Atari, Sega, and Nintendo :|

Also, Sony didn't make those games. They published them. Most of the PS2's support came form the fact it was doing so well, and LBP is on the PS3 because the devs didn't like the Wii.

Eh no, SOTC,ICO and LPB are Sony owned properties.

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[QUOTE="KodiakGTS"][QUOTE="stefanlek"]does history teach lemms nothing?azad_champ

The Playstation brand is extremely strong. MS never makes games like SOTC,Ico and LBP just because they want it to play it safely.

So were Atari, Sega, and Nintendo :|

Also, Sony didn't make those games. They published them. Most of the PS2's support came form the fact it was doing so well, and LBP is on the PS3 because the devs didn't like the Wii.

Eh no, SOTC,ICO and LPB are Sony owned properties.

Media Molecule are developing LBP. I was wrong about SOTC and ICO though. I think the reason MS doesn't make gameslike these are because are probably because of the fact they barely develop any games.

[QUOTE="skektek"]When DVD was released most TVs didn't have the composite connections required for DVD playback.Pripyat

What on earth are you talking about? Even we europeans have had better connections than that on our TVs since like '84 or something, I have a very hard time believing that americans have had it worse.