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#51 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]11 million by the end of the fiscal year is a possibility. 11 million by the end of 2007 is not a possibility. The PS3 has been a failure, thus far, even moreso than the PSP "failed." Sure, it's keeping its head above water, but it's not winning the marathon, that's for sure.i_like_pizza

Think of this analogy - Stephen Bradbury was an australian short track speed skater who won an Olympic gold medal at the 2002 games. He was trailing behind everyone else - then all the other opponents fell over just before the finish line and he coasted past for victory. What's to say PS3 won't gain ground in a years time now that they've reduced the price. I mean the main issue that people seemed to have on its release was that it was so expensive. now the price has dropped - we will see sales increase a lot.

With a price drop just in time for the second-busiest retail month of the year in NA, the PS3 only manage to sell the average amount that the Wii or DS sell in any given month. The price drop was a huge boost, percentage-wise, but it was not a huge boost in volume. The differnce between 100 and 300 should not be thought of as a 300% increase, but rather as a change of plus-200 units. The PS3's gain was miniscule.

Even if it could manage 200k a month, which would be double what it has been averaging, that would still put it right on pace with the 360, or slightly behind. The 360 is on track to sell about 40 million consoles. That is no HUGE success, especially not for the PS name.

The PS3 is WAY behind, and we're already nearing the halfway point of the generation for Sony's direct competition (MS). It doesn't stand a chance of seeing the kind of success that the PS2 saw. Will it beat out the 360? Maybe. Will it beat the Wii? Not in a million years.

with the amount of things the PS3 has to offer - it may last a lot longer than the consoles in this generation. Especially if Blu Ray taskes hold in the format stakes. Meaning it still has a chance.

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#52 lord_aquinas
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The fakeboy is great with this one.Truth-slayer

is that true o slayer of truth? ;)

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#53 Ipik_Fenris
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It seems History does repeat.

In a news article by eFluxMedia - they have stated that PS3 sales have increased amazingly. So much in fact that the world sales will increase to over 11 million by the end of the year. And what do Sony owe all this to? History.

Well of course not just history. I mean the way they go about selling their console in the past has certainly helped them prepare for this gen. The battlefield though was something they weren't expecting - however their sales plan that has worked proficiently in the past is being repeated here and is soon to make all predictions come true and allow PS3 to be the best console of this gen.

I guess it already is technically the best. But it hasn't quite got all the sales required to be considered to be the best. But don't worry - I have uncovered Sonys plan. A career in marketing has taught me little techniques and ways of marketing a product to get the best results. And here is how they do it, and how the PS3 will win the generation.

It PAYS to wait. Sony went in head strong for a reason. They went in cocky and it was all planned. They knew the gimmicky, new, Nintendo console was just all innovation and no substance and not too much variety in gaming from the very beginning. They could predict that it would be a big seller instantly. They also realised that the 360 was all power and no innovation and not much variety in gaming. Sony were never worried for a second when they saw sales figures earlier this year. Not a second. You know why?

Things that are based around a gimmick get old. Purely and simply. Have you youngsters ever heard of a ball attached to a string which is attached to cup and you toss the ball into the cup? Well...that same game could be compared to the Wii. On its release - it was innovative. Children were jumping up and down stating "Wow I've never seen something like this before. And at only a dollar - it's affordable and new!" Now - Sony have decided to release a PS3. The children would be saying "oh no. That is much too expensive. I can get the ball cup game right away now." But little did they realise that the ball cup game would actually hold their attention for a little while before they found it repetitive and tiring. So they went out and bought the PS3 when it came down in price.

Maybe people bought a Wii for the sole reason that it will last them 6 months, then they trade it in and get a PS3 (which will last them into the next gen) when the price has come down. Sony realise this and when they finally get more good quality gaming out - plus the old favourites - the people will throw down their wii motes and pick up the most innovative and powerful console on the market with the biggest variety of games - the Playstation 3.

After all - in the words of the famous Miss Shirley Bassey: "it's all just a little bit of history repeating"

Thank you for your time.

lord_aquinas

hows that ?? by the end of...2007 ?? 11 millions ?? thats like selling...3-4 millions in like 3 weeks ? , not bashing the PS3 sales but...not even the Wii sells that quantity in such a short period of time :o

sorry - I meant to put in 'fiscal' year. i got too carried away with replies that I forgot. I'll add it now before I forget.

when does the fiscal year ends ? March ?, still far from the 11 millions goal XP !, nvm.....

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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]11 million by the end of the fiscal year is a possibility. 11 million by the end of 2007 is not a possibility. The PS3 has been a failure, thus far, even moreso than the PSP "failed." Sure, it's keeping its head above water, but it's not winning the marathon, that's for sure.lord_aquinas

Think of this analogy - Stephen Bradbury was an australian short track speed skater who won an Olympic gold medal at the 2002 games. He was trailing behind everyone else - then all the other opponents fell over just before the finish line and he coasted past for victory. What's to say PS3 won't gain ground in a years time now that they've reduced the price. I mean the main issue that people seemed to have on its release was that it was so expensive. now the price has dropped - we will see sales increase a lot.

Wait ! ( pun intended )

So now you are saying that if the others make horrible mistakes at the end Sony still has a chance ?

You started all with confidence based on wrong assumptions , they predict the PS3 will sell 11 million consoles to retailers in March not sell to consumers at the end of the year .

Keep up the damage control though :lol:

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#55 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="Ipik_Fenris"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

It seems History does repeat.

In a news article by eFluxMedia - they have stated that PS3 sales have increased amazingly. So much in fact that the world sales will increase to over 11 million by the end of the year. And what do Sony owe all this to? History.

Well of course not just history. I mean the way they go about selling their console in the past has certainly helped them prepare for this gen. The battlefield though was something they weren't expecting - however their sales plan that has worked proficiently in the past is being repeated here and is soon to make all predictions come true and allow PS3 to be the best console of this gen.

I guess it already is technically the best. But it hasn't quite got all the sales required to be considered to be the best. But don't worry - I have uncovered Sonys plan. A career in marketing has taught me little techniques and ways of marketing a product to get the best results. And here is how they do it, and how the PS3 will win the generation.

It PAYS to wait. Sony went in head strong for a reason. They went in cocky and it was all planned. They knew the gimmicky, new, Nintendo console was just all innovation and no substance and not too much variety in gaming from the very beginning. They could predict that it would be a big seller instantly. They also realised that the 360 was all power and no innovation and not much variety in gaming. Sony were never worried for a second when they saw sales figures earlier this year. Not a second. You know why?

Things that are based around a gimmick get old. Purely and simply. Have you youngsters ever heard of a ball attached to a string which is attached to cup and you toss the ball into the cup? Well...that same game could be compared to the Wii. On its release - it was innovative. Children were jumping up and down stating "Wow I've never seen something like this before. And at only a dollar - it's affordable and new!" Now - Sony have decided to release a PS3. The children would be saying "oh no. That is much too expensive. I can get the ball cup game right away now." But little did they realise that the ball cup game would actually hold their attention for a little while before they found it repetitive and tiring. So they went out and bought the PS3 when it came down in price.

Maybe people bought a Wii for the sole reason that it will last them 6 months, then they trade it in and get a PS3 (which will last them into the next gen) when the price has come down. Sony realise this and when they finally get more good quality gaming out - plus the old favourites - the people will throw down their wii motes and pick up the most innovative and powerful console on the market with the biggest variety of games - the Playstation 3.

After all - in the words of the famous Miss Shirley Bassey: "it's all just a little bit of history repeating"

Thank you for your time.

Ipik_Fenris

hows that ?? by the end of...2007 ?? 11 millions ?? thats like selling...3-4 millions in like 3 weeks ? , not bashing the PS3 sales but...not even the Wii sells that quantity in such a short period of time :o

sorry - I meant to put in 'fiscal' year. i got too carried away with replies that I forgot. I'll add it now before I forget.

when does the fiscal year ends ? March ?, still far from the 11 millions goal XP !, nvm.....

in March I believe, yes.

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#56 Rikusaki
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Cows, cows, cows... I thought sales didn't matter!

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#57 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]11 million by the end of the fiscal year is a possibility. 11 million by the end of 2007 is not a possibility. The PS3 has been a failure, thus far, even moreso than the PSP "failed." Sure, it's keeping its head above water, but it's not winning the marathon, that's for sure.Caseytappy

Think of this analogy - Stephen Bradbury was an australian short track speed skater who won an Olympic gold medal at the 2002 games. He was trailing behind everyone else - then all the other opponents fell over just before the finish line and he coasted past for victory. What's to say PS3 won't gain ground in a years time now that they've reduced the price. I mean the main issue that people seemed to have on its release was that it was so expensive. now the price has dropped - we will see sales increase a lot.

Wait ! ( pun intended )

So now you are saying that if the others make horrible mistakes at the end Sony still has a chance ?

You started all with confidence based on wrong assumptions , they predict the PS3 will sell 11 million consoles to retailers in March not sell to consumers at the end of the year .

Keep up the damage control though :lol:

If sony keep sticking to their premeditated ideas then yes they still stand a chance even if the others don't stuff up.

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#59 Silvereign
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I think Sony are masters of trial and error.

I really think PS3 is going to be some serious competition. With the best looking game on consoles GT5 comming out; many more great exclusives and an extreme value for their console plus Home they could really turn the tides of war.

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I dont think theres enough evidence NOW to say "oh see its just like ps2" YET, BUT i do think it will get like that, maybe by next april-may or so the sales will dramatically incrase imo, and then you can definately say it'll be ps2-like, as far as the whole "ITS DOOMED ITS DOOMED" and then it becomes victorious goes. I do think history will repeat this gen though, regardless of which console came out first or second, its gonna be like ps2 i think, but definately wont sell over 100 million units, it'll just become either #1 or 2.
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history does repeat itself. price drop = sales boostCaseyWegner


Actually it is price drop + holiday + Drake = sales boost, that IMO will not last long, and i think 360 outsells PS3 in US anyway ?

Ifi recall Novambar NPD was 770.000 for 360, and 460.000 for PS3 ?

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If history truly did repeat itself in this case PS3 would've already overtaken the Wii and 360. As for believing that Sony premeditated this, you gotta be joking?
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It seems History does repeat.

In a news article by eFluxMedia - they have stated that PS3 sales have increased amazingly. So much in fact that the world sales will increase to over 11 million by the end of the fiscal year. And what do Sony owe all this to? History.

Well of course not just history. I mean the way they go about selling their console in the past has certainly helped them prepare for this gen. The battlefield though was something they weren't expecting - however their sales plan that has worked proficiently in the past is being repeated here and is soon to make all predictions come true and allow PS3 to be the best console of this gen.

I guess it already is technically the best. But it hasn't quite got all the sales required to be considered to be the best. But don't worry - I have uncovered Sonys plan. A career in marketing has taught me little techniques and ways of marketing a product to get the best results. And here is how they do it, and how the PS3 will win the generation.

It PAYS to wait. Sony went in head strong for a reason. They went in cocky and it was all planned. They knew the gimmicky, new, Nintendo console was just all innovation and no substance and not too much variety in gaming from the very beginning. They could predict that it would be a big seller instantly. They also realised that the 360 was all power and no innovation and not much variety in gaming. Sony were never worried for a second when they saw sales figures earlier this year. Not a second. You know why?

Things that are based around a gimmick get old. Purely and simply. Have you youngsters ever heard of a ball attached to a string which is attached to cup and you toss the ball into the cup? Well...that same game could be compared to the Wii. On its release - it was innovative. Children were jumping up and down stating "Wow I've never seen something like this before. And at only a dollar - it's affordable and new!" Now - Sony have decided to release a PS3. The children would be saying "oh no. That is much too expensive. I can get the ball cup game right away now." But little did they realise that the ball cup game would actually hold their attention for a little while before they found it repetitive and tiring. So they went out and bought the PS3 when it came down in price.

Maybe people bought a Wii for the sole reason that it will last them 6 months, then they trade it in and get a PS3 (which will last them into the next gen) when the price has come down. Sony realise this and when they finally get more good quality gaming out - plus the old favourites - the people will throw down their wii motes and pick up the most innovative and powerful console on the market with the biggest variety of games - the Playstation 3.

After all - in the words of the famous Miss Shirley Bassey: "it's all just a little bit of history repeating"

Thank you for your time.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]history does repeat itself. price drop = sales boostCaseyWegner

Not only that but Sony are dropping prices just when really awesome games are starting to come out. It's like they have hundred dollar bills attached to string attached to their pockets. you know? ;)

but you really think they planned this?

they are a bussiness they should of. Plus Dont they want to move more psp and ps2 units to cover up lost on each ps3 until it gets cheaper to produce?

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If history truly did repeat itself in this case PS3 would've already overtaken the Wii and 360. As for believing that Sony premeditated this, you gotta be joking?DucksBrains

theres not way it would have over taken wii. this isn't ps2 verus gamcube,DC and xbox.

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What the hell i do not understand is if Sony fanboys are loyal, why did the psp flop? Ds destroyed the psp.
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the people will throw down their wii motes and pick up the most innovative and powerful console on the market with the biggest variety of games - the Playstation 3.lord_aquinas

Lol the PS3 is about as innovative as a double cheeseburger.

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$399 is still pretty pricey compared to $249 and $279. Which is why PS3 is still in a distant 3rd place position.

PS3 will be discontinued in 2008, you heard it here first.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]history does repeat itself. price drop = sales boostsaolin323


Actually it is price drop + holiday + Drake = sales boost, that IMO will not last long, and i think 360 outsells PS3 in US anyway ?

Ifi recall Novambar NPD was 770.000 for 360, and 460.000 for PS3 ?

Yes that`s correct but Drake sold terrible.
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I really doubt there was a great deal of premeditation in dropping the price, it was more a reaction to the sluggish PS3 and strong Wii sales.

lord_aquinas

Ok. PS2 had awesome titles at launch - yet the price in Australia (not sure the rest of the world - sorry) dropped within a few weeks of release. Then the sales started to really pick up. Perhaps an idea from the past crept up on Sony?

Yeah, I live in Australia, so I'm well aware.

It also came out a year after the US here, and almost 2 years after Japan. It's not really apt to compare the PS2 price drop in Australia with the PS3's global price drop.

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Ever since those NPD numbers came, cows are starting to believe that the sales of ps3's are increasing. Well I love to burst there bubble and the truth isthat the only reason that sales spike happen because of black friday sales. Come on, the xbox360 sold over 700,000 and the wii sold at least above 900,000 consoles here in the US. Once January hits, everything is going to be back to normal.