Holidays 2007: Final Nail in the PS3 Coffin?

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#51 excelR83
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Just how many nails does the PS3 coffin need to finally close? I've been hearing this for over a year now. Must be a big casket.
SergeantSnitch

:lol:

I know. Halo 3 was supposed to be the final nail in September. Not sure what secret game is coming out over the holidays that will stealth kill the PS3.

On that note, why does one console have to die? I know that's how Microsoft rolls, they like to be a monopoly... but that isn't good for the consumer, and that is what I am. Can't one console be the leader without killing off the other two? Isn't it possible we could have more of a SNES vs Genesis fight this time than a PS2 > Dreamcast one? That is where I would put my money. All three consoles will still be around in 2010, if I had to bet on it.

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#52 _Impmacaque_
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[QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

There is no "barely making AA" ....... either it did or it didn't.

SergeantSnitch

8.0 == dangerously close to 7.9, which is "A" Territory.



What if it was closer to 8.4 but got rounded down? Oh but that can't be possible, we are talking PS3 here, the same console that killed your loved ones.

Gamespot wouldn't round down.

Just an FYI.

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#53 MikeE21286
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Yes, you're right, the second year of what is most likely a 5-6 year generation is the nail in the coffin.....short-sightedness FTL.
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#54 Hangman550
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during the ps2 era... it was a 4 console battle: ps2, dreamcast, xbox, and gamecube
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#55 4dragonscasino
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hmmm, so just because gamespot gave the game a 8.0 Officially declares the game a flop? IGN and other sites have praised the game. You base your opinion souly on the review of gamespot?

I've heard enough burn!

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#56 Hangman550
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In terms of SW and the fanboys alliance of GS, yes... the game is a flop in SW. Now is it a flop in the 'real world'? not necessarily... that depends only on $$$.
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#57 ps3pluspc
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[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

It appears that accameron has not realized he's 37 living in a basement.

accameron

When do you think that the final nail in the PS3 coffin will be nailed? Holidays 2007, or when GTA4 is released? I am saying holidays 2007.

When accameron moves out of his mom's basement.

NEVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have my own apartment. LOL at your lame attempts to insult me. You are lucky that I am not a jerk and report you, as Cows do to me all the time. Cows are really unfair.

You're a grown dude with his own apartment with that girly cooking momma avatar? Ok, nothing wrong with that I guess.

But as for your attack on PS3. The PS3 has sold as many consoles in its first year although it was competing against two other consoles and at a higher price than the 360. If you add on to that the fact that part of 360 sales is inflated due to RROD then the PS3 is actually doing very well and probably on the verge of overtaking 360.

Then add onto that the fact that 360s latest "AAA" exclusives Halo 3 and Mass Effect are basically pushing 360 to its limit and chugging along while Uncharted looks BETTER and runs almost flawlessly... I'd say 360 is at its twighlight stages and PS3 is just taking off.

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#58 ps3pluspc
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In terms of SW and the fanboys alliance of GS, yes... the game is a flop in SW. Now is it a flop in the 'real world'? not necessarily... that depends only on $$$.Hangman550

All PS3 games are a flop in the narrow reality tunnel called "Gamespot System Wars." In the real world Wiis sit in people's closets two months after people buy them, your friends with 360s talk of how it RROD'd and people are having fun on their PS3s with Uncharted, R&C, Lair, CoD4, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Eye of Judgement, Resistance, Warhawk etc. I just had a splitscreen marathon with Warhawk online the other night with a friend and convinced him on the PS3. What other console has a game where you can Dog Fight fighters with HD graphics on a gigantic map with tanks, enemy troops, ground to air turrets, etc???? NONE.

On the other hand it is so funny how Lemmings and Sheep with nothing to play but Mario, Wii Sports, Halo 3 and Mass Effect and no really great exclusives on the horizon keep posting how PS3 is dying while in the Real World PS3 keeps getting great games and people are loving it.

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#59 lt-rickhunter
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[QUOTE="Udsen"]

It appears that accameron has not realized he's 37 living in a basement.

accameron

When do you think that the final nail in the PS3 coffin will be nailed? Holidays 2007, or when GTA4 is released? I am saying holidays 2007.

that is a good question. in japan, and europe the ps3 is outselling the 360 on a montly basis. so im not sure when the coffin will be nailed shut if those sales continue to out do the 360 in those areas.
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#60 ps3pluspc
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[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

Only in fanboys minds.

The PS3 is so far from dead. 120 million PS2s > 20 million Xboxes. THAT is a decisive victory. 13 million > 6 million with a year head start? Not so much.

Magical_Zebra

Worst logic ever.


That's how you reply to me? Worst logic ever?

Please, enlighten me.

You are telling me the PS3 is going to Dreamcast this holiday season and I am guilty of "bad" logic? :lol:

The PS2 trampled the Xbox and the Gamecube and neither one of them, nor the companies, "died". They didn't even slow down. How is a 2:1 lead with a 2:1 amount of time on shelves a crushing blow? I'd really like to hear the impeccable logic behind that.

If you want to push me aside with some offhand comment, be prepared to back it with an actual argument.

And those 120 million PS2 owners are suppose to all be waiting for the "big guns" to drop before they get a PS3 right? 2006, 2007, now 2008. Whats next, 2009? :shock:

The big guns ARE DROPPING. Whether or not you want to open your fanboys eyes and see it is another story. Sure, Gamespot gave Uncharted a pretty blah score. But the reality is that Sony has been dropping some big guns onto the battlefield since Aug/Sep. Sure, you can give these games bad ratings but people are liking the games and buying them because they are good and they offer variety over 360 and its half-assed shooters.

Games like Eye of Judgement, Lair, HS, R&C and Warhawk basically don't exist on 360. And Ass Effect and Halo 3 are pretty much universally understood now to be overhyped and flawed regardless of the biased and hyped reviews being put out by reviewers.

120 million PS2 owners bought PS2s for a reason. The games. And once again M$ Xbox is becoming the console of Halo 3 and chump shooters you can get on your PC and Sony is moving forward with new types of games like Eye of Judgement and Warhawk which can only be found on PS3. Sony will win.

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#61 CajunShooter
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It appears that even with the new 40 gig PS3, sales have not really changed at all for the ill-fated PS3. accameron

You mean an increase of 175% in sales is your definition of "sales not changing"?

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#62 dream431ca
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It appears that even with the new 40 gig PS3, sales have not really changed at all for the ill-fated PS3. Add to that a complete lack of exclusive AAA titles (Uncharted, the PS3's last AAA hope for 2007 only got an 8.0, barely making the AA level, yet another PS3 flop in an otherwise mega-flop fest), and it appears that even the rest of 2007 will be more of the same for the PS3. And keep in mind, an astounding % of console sales happen from late November to late December, even something like 40% of TOTAL yearly sales. Will this holiday season be the final nail in the PS3 coffin? I am betting "YES."accameron

Fanboys are not entitled to opinions.

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#63 QuasidodoJr
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It appears that even with the new 40 gig PS3, sales have not really changed at all for the ill-fated PS3. Add to that a complete lack of exclusive AAA titles (Uncharted, the PS3's last AAA hope for 2007 only got an 8.0, barely making the AA level, yet another PS3 flop in an otherwise mega-flop fest), and it appears that even the rest of 2007 will be more of the same for the PS3. And keep in mind, an astounding % of console sales happen from late November to late December, even something like 40% of TOTAL yearly sales. Will this holiday season be the final nail in the PS3 coffin? I am betting "YES."accameron
Did Ken Kutaragi run over your puppy when you were a child, or something? Otherwise, it makes no sense to hate another console/brand as much as you do.
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#64 Tamarind_Face
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It will sell just under 400,000 units this month.DaysAirlines

The xbots seem to think it will sell under 200,000 units this month. LOL.

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#65 MellowMight
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There is no "barely making AA" ....... either it did or it didn't.

Nike_Air

WTF? Yes, there is a barly making. It just so happens to be a AA at the sametime.

Comprehension problems FTL. :|

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#66 Roushrsh
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Yay for accameron and his/her fanboy rants, cant wait till the PS3 gets its first AAAe here on gamespot so that you will have to leave gs for a day ^^
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#67 grimhope
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[QUOTE="accameron"]

[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]lol this guy doesnt quit does he?xTHExJUICEx

When do you think that the PS3 will finally, officially flop?

It will never finally officially flop....the fanbase from the PS1/PS2 era is too strong, the 08 line up is too strong, the only thing holding the PS3 back is its price but how much longer will that last?

It will last untill the price comes down.

first system to 199 wins, and it will be the wii, that hits it first. Then the 360. The ps3 may NEVER BE 199 untill the very end of its life.

When you can buy a 360 for 199, the ps3 will never catch up. Thats when the casuals start REALLY buying the systems.

Not every one in america has alot of money so 279 and 399 are very much out of reach for many americans who would love to buy the new systems but cant afford to.

In conclusion unless the ps3 passes the 360 in sales in 2008, it never will.

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#68 stereointegrity
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i dont kno how many times i have seen a thread saying the end of sony or final nail in sonys coffin..really it aint happening so just deal wit it
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#69 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]It will sell just under 400,000 units this month.Tamarind_Face

The xbots seem to think it will sell under 200,000 units this month. LOL.

And the Cows think that the 360 will stop selling, and the Sheep think that the PS3 will stop selling, and the Lemmings think the Wii will stop selling...and so on, ad nauseum.

Isn't it enough to finally admit that all three are going to stick around and make a go of it this generation? Heck, in the end it benefits all gamers to have strong competition, even fanboys.

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#70 conman12345
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aw poor PS3...*goes off to play 360*
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#71 accameron
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Yay for accameron and his/her fanboy rants, cant wait till the PS3 gets its first AAAe here on gamespot so that you will have to leave gs for a day ^^Roushrsh

I hope that the PS3 does get an AAAe one of these days. It obviously is not going to happen until mid 2008 at the least, though. It is criminal how Sony is ripping off its loyal customers- in the legal world, this is known as "conversion" of their money. Why don't you Cows ever realize this? Sony made a crap system, with crap games flopping all over the place, and you sit there saying "thank you sir, can I have another?" as the lashes rain down.

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#72 Shadow2k6
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How another generic "Final Nail in PS3 Coffin" thread. Look the PS3 is here to stay whether you make 1000 threads (what is this the 900th or what?) or not.
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Yay for accameron and his/her fanboy rants, cant wait till the PS3 gets its first AAAe here on gamespot so that you will have to leave gs for a day ^^accameron

I hope that the PS3 does get an AAAe one of these days. It obviously is not going to happen until mid 2008 at the least, though. It is criminal how Sony is ripping off its loyal customers- in the legal world, this is known as "conversion" of their money. Why don't you Cows ever realize this? Sony made a crap system, with crap games flopping all over the place, and you sit there saying "thank you sir, can I have another?" as the lashes rain down.

Ipurchased a PS3 look at the games Ive rated, I can safely say im enjoying my PS3 very much, is that so hard to live with? You should really quit worring about other peoples purchases.

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#74 QuasidodoJr
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I hope that the PS3 does get an AAAe one of these days. It obviously is not going to happen until mid 2008 at the least, though. It is criminal how Sony is ripping off its loyal customers- in the legal world, this is known as "conversion" of their money. Why don't you Cows ever realize this? Sony made a crap system, with crap games flopping all over the place, and you sit there saying "thank you sir, can I have another?" as the lashes rain down.

accameron
Strangely, you still have yet to realize that the "AAAE" argument is ONLY valid in System Wars. A few of Sony's games have pulled AAA scores from other publications. The whole of the video game consumerbase does not come to System Wars or only factor in GameSpot reviews when deciding a purchase. Referencing console sales with System Wars logic is about as logical as purchasing an inflatable dartboard.
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#75 ps3pluspc
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Yay for accameron and his/her fanboy rants, cant wait till the PS3 gets its first AAAe here on gamespot so that you will have to leave gs for a day ^^accameron

I hope that the PS3 does get an AAAe one of these days. It obviously is not going to happen until mid 2008 at the least, though. It is criminal how Sony is ripping off its loyal customers- in the legal world, this is known as "conversion" of their money. Why don't you Cows ever realize this? Sony made a crap system, with crap games flopping all over the place, and you sit there saying "thank you sir, can I have another?" as the lashes rain down.

Wow. You are just a hopeless PS3 hater. PS3 DOES have AAA games... but when the guys reviewing the games are jealous Lemmings and Sheep then you get skewed ratings. Everyone in the "Real World" knows that Uncharted>>Ass Effect>>Halo 3

Sure Halo 3 got better ratings than Uncharted? But ask people in the "Real World" about Halo 3 and many, many 360 gamers will say its a let down and not all it was hyped up to be. So they move on to COD4. Same with Ass Effect. Ask people on all sides about Uncharted and they generally say it is a great game and technically amazing.

So who cares if reviewers hand out 9s and 10s to basically all hyped 360 games. Those numbers aren't reality. In the "Real World" I am having more fun on PS3 with Warhawk, COD4, Uncharted, Resistance, Motorstorm, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword then guys watching 4 hours of Ass Effect cutscenes or Wiiers waving their arms around in Cooking Mama. Who gives a **** if sites don't want to give PS3 AAA ratings on its games. We know the games are fun.

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#76 iamshivy
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well if unreal 3 really does come out.... then NO, no , no no
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#77 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

There is no "barely making AA" ....... either it did or it didn't.

_Impmacaque_

8.0 == dangerously close to 7.9, which is "A" Territory.



What if it was closer to 8.4 but got rounded down? Oh but that can't be possible, we are talking PS3 here, the same console that killed your loved ones.

Gamespot wouldn't round down.

Just an FYI.



But they'd round up?

Just stop. The game got an 8.0 (they actually underscored it too).

"buh teh game almost got 7.9!!" claims need to die.

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#78 accameron
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[QUOTE="accameron"]

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Yay for accameron and his/her fanboy rants, cant wait till the PS3 gets its first AAAe here on gamespot so that you will have to leave gs for a day ^^ps3pluspc

I hope that the PS3 does get an AAAe one of these days. It obviously is not going to happen until mid 2008 at the least, though. It is criminal how Sony is ripping off its loyal customers- in the legal world, this is known as "conversion" of their money. Why don't you Cows ever realize this? Sony made a crap system, with crap games flopping all over the place, and you sit there saying "thank you sir, can I have another?" as the lashes rain down.

Wow. You are just a hopeless PS3 hater. PS3 DOES have AAA games... but when the guys reviewing the games are jealous Lemmings and Sheep then you get skewed ratings. Everyone in the "Real World" knows that Uncharted>>Ass Effect>>Halo 3

Sure Halo 3 got better ratings than Uncharted? But ask people in the "Real World" about Halo 3 and many, many 360 gamers will say its a let down and not all it was hyped up to be. So they move on to COD4. Same with Ass Effect. Ask people on all sides about Uncharted and they generally say it is a great game and technically amazing.

So who cares if reviewers hand out 9s and 10s to basically all hyped 360 games. Those numbers aren't reality. In the "Real World" I am having more fun on PS3 with Warhawk, COD4, Uncharted, Resistance, Motorstorm, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword then guys watching 4 hours of Ass Effect cutscenes or Wiiers waving their arms around in Cooking Mama. Who gives a **** if sites don't want to give PS3 AAA ratings on its games. We know the games are fun.

Well, SOMEBODY is in a bad mood here, arent they? I see nothing but sad excuses in your post. Face it, the PS3 has ZERO (0) AAA exclusives, over a year after launch.