Home Defense Thread

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

Antwan3K

let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

Antwan3K

honestly, what were you expecting from home? lymb

If anyone is enjoying Home in its current state, they obviously have a visceral hatred for anything fun. The fact that there are people who actually wait in line to play games that my cell phone can run is sad. It is an interactive middleman application that adds an extra step in the friend-making process. The best feature that Home offers is that it's OPTIONAL.bez2083

let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

Antwan3K

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Damage control. Home is bland and boring. Don't give me that "it's young" or "It has promise" ...

That's been the Sony motto for how long now? Fact is it was delayed way too long, and then they release this bare, joke of an update...Home is unnecessary and boring end of discussion. People around here shouldn't have been hyping it as the answer to XBL. If this is what free gets us, I'm glad I pay for Live.

LosDaddie

QFT

Sony yet again shows me why I still gladly pay for XBL every year. :D

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

heretrix

I'm still trying to figure out what was so wrong with just putting in a game going to the multiplayer on that game, and playing with those people. Your meeting them for the first time more than likely, your all playing the game together, why not strike up a convo and become friends? Is the use of pool tables and dancing in Central Plaza needed for the most basic of gaming interactions? The few that actually are defending this make it seem like it was so hard to make friends before you could see an animated representation of them.

Damage control. Home is bland and boring. Don't give me that "it's young" or "It has promise" ...

That's been the Sony motto for how long now? Fact is it was delayed way too long, and then they release this bare, joke of an update...Home is unnecessary and boring end of discussion. People around here shouldn't have been hyping it as the answer to XBL. If this is what free gets us, I'm glad I pay for Live.

QFT

Sony yet again shows me why I still gladly pay for XBL every year. :D

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

I'm still trying to figure out what was so wrong with just putting in a game going to the multiplayer on that game, and playing with those people. Your meeting them for the first time more than likely, your all playing the game together, why not strike up a convo and become friends? Is the use of pool tables and dancing in Central Plaza needed for the most basic of gaming interactions? The few that actually are defending this make it seem like it was so hard to make friends before you could see an animated representation of them.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] You don't spend millions of dollars and years of development on a goddamn "3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins".Verge_6

[QUOTE="Rodneythepom"]HOME was a good idea that has been executed poorly. It doesn't really serve a purpose on the PS3 other than being a time waster. Something about the NXE is that is completely integrated with the 360, whereas HOME is it's own separate space. There is alot of potential in HOME and it's only in beta, so things will change, but as of now, I don't see myself committing much of any time to HOME. HOME was supposed to bring gamers in and be the focal point of the PSN experience, I don't see how it can remain the focal point when it will be widely ignored by the market they thought would embrace it. Integrate HOME into the XMB, make it part of every game from here on out, and downplay the "social network," part for the moment. HOME can be great, but in it's current state, it's just lackluster.Antwan3K

"PlayStation®Home is a 3D social gaming community that allows PLAYSTATION®3 users to meet, chat, plan, and launch into games together. You can create your own custom avatar, decorate your personal apartment, play mini-games, shop, watch videos, attend special events, and much more - it's all part of PlayStation®Home."

it seems pretty self-explainatory what Home is.. it's a "social network".. it's not intended to be the "focal point of the PSN experience".. the focal point of the PSN experience should be GAMES.. and when you meet new players in the GAMES you like, you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa, if you meet some cool new buddies in Home, you can then join up with them in the online GAMES you share.. even in it's bare-bones beta form, Home is providing this. and much more appealing content and features are sure to come.. for free.. and it's still optional.. i do not see the complaint...

and yea, you might think social networking is a time waster.. others would disagree.. Home is giving PSN a sense of "community".. it's in it's early stages, but they are on the right track.. like it or not, the PS3 is the only home console that's providing a full 3D environment to interact with other PS3 owners within public spaces (with bowling, pool, arcade games, a theater, mall, and etc), private and customizable apartments, and developer sponsored game spaces.. i think it's a great option..

and by the way, ofcourse NXE is completely inegrated with the 360.. it's the friggin dashboard update.. wow they added avatars.. wow they added Netflix.. i guess we should forget for a moment that prior to NXE, lemmings thought that avatars sucked and that video game consoles arent meant for watching movies.. but at it's core, NXE is an update to the 360 dashboard which offers a few cool new features like the 8- person party system.. this is hardly as ambitious as Home in terms of size, scale, and scope.. bottomline: a "dashboard update" =/= a "social network" so i dont understand your comparison..

let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

Hi Antwan. It was good to meet up with you in Home. It's always nice to put a voice to a name.

I think the disappointment comes from the fact that Home was hyped as a big deal even outside System Wars. The problem was that Sony didn't do anything to squash those unrealistic expectations.

I would have to disagree that Home gives PSN a sense of community. If anything, it gives PSN only another level or randomness. Meeting up with strangers that maybe have the same interests is so 10 years ago with mIRC and AOL chatrooms. Sure, it looks nice, but is, at its core, chaotic.

I've said it before, and I think it bears repeating: Xbox 360 does a better job at social networking than PS3. The avatars themselves are only cosmetic fluff. However, XBL has profile pages with bios and achievement lists available on the console itself, Xbox.com, MSN Messenger and even Zune Social. You can party up and launch into any game. Right now, it looks like you can only launch into Warhawk from Home. Not only can you meet other people in other friend's parties, 360 also has the friends of friends feature where you can see your friends' friends.

The NXE update, at launch, accomplishes more toward social networking than Home does at its own launch. I think the comparison is fair.

Again... making Home a beta doesn't excuse it from being devoid of functionality. It's been at least 2 years in the making already. There should be more to do. The FarCry 2 and Uncharted spaces don't even offer much more to do than the central plaza.

That said... I'm more than willing to give Home another look once it's updated a bit. But in its current form, I won't visit for very long if I do visit at all.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Damage control. Home is bland and boring. Don't give me that "it's young" or "It has promise" ...

That's been the Sony motto for how long now? Fact is it was delayed way too long, and then they release this bare, joke of an update...Home is unnecessary and boring end of discussion. People around here shouldn't have been hyping it as the answer to XBL. If this is what free gets us, I'm glad I pay for Live.

angry_fork

QFT

Sony yet again shows me why I still gladly pay for XBL every year. :D

Yup, it sure does.

Home shows me that MS "gets" online gaming like no one else in the console biz. Other than Avatars, the NXE is an amazing update

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

bez2083

I'm still trying to figure out what was so wrong with just putting in a game going to the multiplayer on that game, and playing with those people. Your meeting them for the first time more than likely, your all playing the game together, why not strike up a convo and become friends? Is the use of pool tables and dancing in Central Plaza needed for the most basic of gaming interactions? The few that actually are defending this make it seem like it was so hard to make friends before you could see an animated representation of them.

I'll say this though, If HOME gets some poker tables or a casino in it, I'm sold.

In it's current state, I'm completely disappointed with HOME. The promises made, the things Sony envisioned, and all the rest fell flat on it's face from diving off a airplane with your parachute pack suddenly leaving you behind and only for you to meed the cold hard facts of reality.

Home is a waste.

-The trophy room/display cases are where? Yeah, I know it's Beta, but dammnit Sony, you don't tell me it's Beta and open to the public. That makes no sense, as it is...t his is indeed a "full" version that was released early with stuff cut back just tos how it's not some vaporware dream.

-The useless amounts of content in there. Why would someone need to spend their time in HOME doing useless, arbitrary things, that add no value to your gaming experience? Sure, you can talk to people, find some who are not jerks, but communication is slow and tedious since not everyone has a mic (since someone didn't put one with all systems.) and even then, it's become a glorified 3D chatroom at that. While you're just doing one thing at a time, I can post on these forums with people of similar interests, listen to music, read the news, and more all simultaneously. Why would I want to just sit and chat with people on my 65" HDTV?

- Empty Promises: Seriously, there's a lot Sony did not deliver, and it's a shame because they've been working on this for how long now? They've yet to allow me to stream media into my HOME? I had my friends over, in my house, and we can't do jack in there. No music to stream to share with my friends. No movies or picture. No pool tables or other gaming quirks to play with my friends (because you have to make it "real" in the Bowling alley thus me and my friends may not even have the chance to play together) no trophy cases to display. I mean, THIS is what I was looking to see in HOME.

- Pure milkage. I don't care how you rule it, but you're going to want to put things in your house so that you and your friends could enjoy it, right? Like I mentioned above, there's nothing in the current state of the system out, and I'm betting we'll be nickel and dimed for it now. Sony sets what you start off with, and it is not enough at all to dip your feet in. Forget about the file streaming, game tables/alleys to play with friends, while you chat and kill time, because now you likely have to pay a pretty penny for those things, and HOME has become useless for that.

OMG. I finally got into the Uncharted Artifact room and that place were filled with racists from all sides lol. If you're in the NA region, try to get into the right side of the door upstairs, the code is 24312. Wish I had a webcam and a youtube account to record all this nonsense, but I'm pretty sure there's already some posted.

one_on_one

I guess we can all agree that the majority feel that Home is a complete failure for now and there's also a minority who likes it. Anyway, I just wanted to list some of the things I like about Home.

- Making multiple Avatars with one profile. Also I like how you can switch Avatars very quickly. You could switch so quickly that when your female Avatar is surrounded by guys dancing you can switch into your male Avatar making the guys dancing disbursed in horror that they fell for the trap.

- Free mini games with unlockable items. Not only you can play these mini games for free but you can unlock items for your Avatars.

- Graphics. Home is nice to look at.

- Avatars are very customizable.

- Home is optional. So you can delete it off your HDD and it does not affect anything.

This is almost as bad as Sony Defense Force...

Home isn't terrible, but it's so full of faults and wierd choices, (limited number of bowling games going on at once) ect that it's failed at what it attempted to do.

This is almost as bad as Sony Defense Force...

Home isn't terrible, but it's so full of faults and wierd choices, (limited number of bowling games going on at once) ect that it's failed at what it attempted to do.

GundamGuy0

Social Networking on a Console is Pointless

Nobody is saying that. People are saying that social networking on a console where nobody owns/uses headsets is pointless. Also, making people go into an app in order to be social is unneccessary. In LIVE, you and a few friends can all chat while you each do different things. That's way better than making people stop what they're doing then all start some supurfluous program. Home would be completely unneeded if Sony could just deliver a true in-game XMB, similar to microsoft's current menu solution.

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

heretrix

well, to each their own.. people who have buddies on their friends list that they actually enjoy chatting with would say otherwise.. just today, i spent time playing playing one particular game, finished up and saw a buddy in Home.. joined up with him and killed about 15 min chatting doing random stuff.. it's not hard to comprehend..

when i start up my PS3 again and i see a buddy online but not in Home, i'll messege him.. if i see one in Home, i may join up with him for a few before starting my game.. or i may just hop in Home for a few minutes regardless just to see what kinda dumb stuff is going on.. either way, i'm enjoying it.. it's allowing me to further interact with the PSN community.. once again, what's the problem?..

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

3picuri3

the people who call it a "failure" are the very one's who cant even tell you what Home is meant to be.. they say that it's failed but cant even clearly define it's purpose.. please tell me how it's failed at being a 3D chatroom.. it hasnt.. but somehow being a "3D chatroom" is a failure to some people who expected more.. here is what Home is supposed to be:

"PlayStation®Home is a 3D social gaming community that allows PLAYSTATION®3 users to meet, chat, plan, and launch into games together. You can create your own custom avatar, decorate your personal apartment, play mini-games, shop, watch videos, attend special events, and much more - it's all part of PlayStation®Home."

in other words, it's a 3D chatroom.. log on to Home and tell me what you see.. a 3D chatroom that's full of PS3 owners.. every virtual space (the central plaze, the mall, the theater, the bowling alley, the game spaces) are all full with people.. sure the Stores and theater are short on content.. but what do you expect at this early stage.. more is sure to come.. sure the arcade games are simple and the bowling, pool, and chess are basic.. but that's why this is a gaming console.. you have LPB, R2, GTA4, and more to play.. these areas are just meant to socially interact with your PSN friendslist beyond a simple message box...

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

Verge_6

actually you do spend millions of dollars for a 3D virtual space that connects millions of PS3 owners to the same community.. a 3D social community that cant be found on any other console.. how much to you imagine this costs?.. $20,000.. :?

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

Antwan3K

well, to each their own.. people who have buddies on their friends list that they actually enjoy chatting with would say otherwise.. just today, i spent time playing playing one particular game, finished up and saw a buddy in Home.. joined up with him and killed about 15 min chatting doing random stuff.. it's not hard to comprehend..

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa,

bez2083

I'm still trying to figure out what was so wrong with just putting in a game going to the multiplayer on that game, and playing with those people. Your meeting them for the first time more than likely, your all playing the game together, why not strike up a convo and become friends? Is the use of pool tables and dancing in Central Plaza needed for the most basic of gaming interactions? The few that actually are defending this make it seem like it was so hard to make friends before you could see an animated representation of them.

there's nothing wrong with meeting people and making friends during a game of multiplayer.. just like there's nothing wrong with making new buddies in the Home Bowling alley.. and it's nice that you can now interact with the new buddies you meet in games in other ways beyond text message or private voice/video chat.. you can use both options.. people are currently doing both.. so what's the problem.. when did having more options become a bad thing...

We know there are problems with Home. Then again, it's easy to tear something down. Assume that Home isn't going away.

What would you add to Home to make it worthwhile?

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Antwan3K"]let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

Antwan3K

the people who call it a "failure" are the very one's who cant even tell you what Home is meant to be.. they say that it's failed but cant even clearly define it's purpose.. please tell me how it's failed at being a 3D chatroom.. it hasnt.. but somehow being a "3D chatroom" is a failure to some people who expected more.. here is what Home is supposed to be:

"PlayStation®Home is a 3D social gaming community that allows PLAYSTATION®3 users to meet, chat, plan, and launch into games together. You can create your own custom avatar, decorate your personal apartment, play mini-games, shop, watch videos, attend special events, and much more - it's all part of PlayStation®Home."

in other words, it's a 3D chatroom.. log on to Home and tell me what you see.. a 3D chatroom that's full of PS3 owners.. every virtual space (the central plaze, the mall, the theater, the bowling alley, the game spaces) are all full with people.. sure the Stores and theater are short on content.. but what do you expect at this early stage.. more is sure to come.. sure the arcade games are simple and the bowling, pool, and chess are basic.. but that's why this is a gaming console.. you have LPB, R2, GTA4, and more to play.. these areas are just meant to socially interact with your PSN friendslist beyond a simple message box...

OK, for starters almost nobody has, or chooses to use, a bluetooth headset. Maybe if Sony had included a headset bundled in with their most popular hardware, as Microsoft did, people would actually be able to socialize. As it is now, I just run around saying "Can anybody hear me? I can't hear anybody! TALK TO MEEEE!" Sorry, but typing, especially with a virtual keyboard, doesn't cut it in this day and age.

We know there are problems with Home. Then again, it's easy to tear something down. Assume that Home isn't going away.

What would you add to Home to make it worthwhile?

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

[QUOTE="Rodneythepom"]HOME was a good idea that has been executed poorly. It doesn't really serve a purpose on the PS3 other than being a time waster. Something about the NXE is that is completely integrated with the 360, whereas HOME is it's own separate space. There is alot of potential in HOME and it's only in beta, so things will change, but as of now, I don't see myself committing much of any time to HOME. HOME was supposed to bring gamers in and be the focal point of the PSN experience, I don't see how it can remain the focal point when it will be widely ignored by the market they thought would embrace it. Integrate HOME into the XMB, make it part of every game from here on out, and downplay the "social network," part for the moment. HOME can be great, but in it's current state, it's just lackluster.VoodooHak

"PlayStation®Home is a 3D social gaming community that allows PLAYSTATION®3 users to meet, chat, plan, and launch into games together. You can create your own custom avatar, decorate your personal apartment, play mini-games, shop, watch videos, attend special events, and much more - it's all part of PlayStation®Home."

it seems pretty self-explainatory what Home is.. it's a "social network".. it's not intended to be the "focal point of the PSN experience".. the focal point of the PSN experience should be GAMES.. and when you meet new players in the GAMES you like, you can interact with them in the Home space when you're NOT playing games.. and vice versa, if you meet some cool new buddies in Home, you can then join up with them in the online GAMES you share.. even in it's bare-bones beta form, Home is providing this. and much more appealing content and features are sure to come.. for free.. and it's still optional.. i do not see the complaint...

and yea, you might think social networking is a time waster.. others would disagree.. Home is giving PSN a sense of "community".. it's in it's early stages, but they are on the right track.. like it or not, the PS3 is the only home console that's providing a full 3D environment to interact with other PS3 owners within public spaces (with bowling, pool, arcade games, a theater, mall, and etc), private and customizable apartments, and developer sponsored game spaces.. i think it's a great option..

and by the way, ofcourse NXE is completely inegrated with the 360.. it's the friggin dashboard update.. wow they added avatars.. wow they added Netflix.. i guess we should forget for a moment that prior to NXE, lemmings thought that avatars sucked and that video game consoles arent meant for watching movies.. but at it's core, NXE is an update to the 360 dashboard which offers a few cool new features like the 8- person party system.. this is hardly as ambitious as Home in terms of size, scale, and scope.. bottomline: a "dashboard update" =/= a "social network" so i dont understand your comparison..

let's stop acting like it's a "bad thing" that Home is nothing more than a 3D social network meant to kill 20-30 mins at a time inbetween playing your favorite games.. that's exactly what it's intended to be....

Hi Antwan. It was good to meet up with you in Home. It's always nice to put a voice to a name.

I think the disappointment comes from the fact that Home was hyped as a big deal even outside System Wars. The problem was that Sony didn't do anything to squash those unrealistic expectations.

I would have to disagree that Home gives PSN a sense of community. If anything, it gives PSN only another level or randomness. Meeting up with strangers that maybe have the same interests is so 10 years ago with mIRC and AOL chatrooms. Sure, it looks nice, but is, at its core, chaotic.

I've said it before, and I think it bears repeating: Xbox 360 does a better job at social networking than PS3. The avatars themselves are only cosmetic fluff. However, XBL has profile pages with bios and achievement lists available on the console itself, Xbox.com, MSN Messenger and even Zune Social. You can party up and launch into any game. Right now, it looks like you can only launch into Warhawk from Home. Not only can you meet other people in other friend's parties, 360 also has the friends of friends feature where you can see your friends' friends.

The NXE update, at launch, accomplishes more toward social networking than Home does at its own launch. I think the comparison is fair.

Again... making Home a beta doesn't excuse it from being devoid of functionality. It's been at least 2 years in the making already. There should be more to do. The FarCry 2 and Uncharted spaces don't even offer much more to do than the central plaza.

That said... I'm more than willing to give Home another look once it's updated a bit. But in its current form, I won't visit for very long if I do visit at all.

wsup dude.. it was cool running into you aswell.. but i have to disagree with you on this one..

PSN's profile pages include a quick bio and trophy lists that are available via the console itself, playstation.com, and the PSP.. it's just that now we have another way of interacting with the PSN community via Home.. and i find it funny that you find Home more closely matched with AOL chatrooms yet use MSN messenger as a "plus" for XBL.. lol..

and when you say "more to do", what do you want?.. Home is a virtual space to go and hang out inbetween gaming sessions.. you may run into a buddy like i did with you.. you may meet up with your "club" members.. you may get involved in a random conversation.. and it's all good.. it's an internet based 3D chatroom.. how much "structure" do you think you're going to have?.. seeing all the randomness (as you put it) is part of the charm for me and part of the reason i even log on.. just to see what people are doing next... yesterday on Attack of the Show, Kevin P told everyone to download Home and logon during the show tonight for a suprise.. i'll be logging on to check that out too.. how is this not a "community" yet your list of friends and friends's friends somehow is?...

just two different ways to the same end my friend.. you just happen to prefer the XBL method and i prefer PSN's.. no biggie.. but when it's all said and done, NXE was a much smaller undertaking in comparison to Home.. so yea, it makes sense that it would deliver sooner.. and Home has been in development for 2 years and it's still in Beta?.. yea, that ideal sucks but this "open beta" is still providing PSN with something that it didnt have before and something that no other home console has.. a 3D social network.. a comminuty hub.. and no, that's not a bad thing...

We know there are problems with Home. Then again, it's easy to tear something down. Assume that Home isn't going away.

What would you add to Home to make it worthwhile?

VoodooHak

We know there are problems with Home. Then again, it's easy to tear something down. Assume that Home isn't going away.

What would you add to Home to make it worthwhile?

VoodooHak

the only reason there is so much racism and woman are harrassed so much is because simply theres nothing better to do in home, like its not like theres a game to focus on or anything all you can do thats "fun" for some people is just be an A holemasterdante

When I turn on my 360 and I see who's online, I can setup a party and talk to eight of my friends without jumping into a 3d interface. My problem with HOME is that it brings nothing to the table.I really don't need to enter a 3d world with multiple load points to do something as simple as talking to people on my friends list. It's an extra completely unneccessary step. I'm not crapping on the fact that you like it, I just think it's on overly cumbersome way to do something that should be relatively simple.They should be working on a way to fix the crappy chat that they have through the XMB. It seems like they put 50 steps in front of what should be one of the most basic activities to do: Talk to your friends.

heretrix

i understand what you're saying.. it it quicker to simply send a message via the XMB than to logon to Home.. and if that's what you want to do, you can still do exactly that... OR, if you and eight of your friends wantt to group chat and goof around in the Home virtual space with loads of other PSN users, you can do that too...

options, options, options.. they're great...

[QUOTE="masterdante"]the only reason there is so much racism and woman are harrassed so much is because simply theres nothing better to do in home, like its not like theres a game to focus on or anything all you can do thats "fun" for some people is just be an A holecarljohnson3456

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]the people who call it a "failure" are the very one's who cant even tell you what Home is meant to be.. they say that it's failed but cant even clearly define it's purpose.. please tell me how it's failed at being a 3D chatroom.. it hasnt.. but somehow being a "3D chatroom" is a failure to some people who expected more.. here is what Home is supposed to be:

"PlayStation®Home is a 3D social gaming community that allows PLAYSTATION®3 users to meet, chat, plan, and launch into games together. You can create your own custom avatar, decorate your personal apartment, play mini-games, shop, watch videos, attend special events, and much more - it's all part of PlayStation®Home."

in other words, it's a 3D chatroom.. log on to Home and tell me what you see.. a 3D chatroom that's full of PS3 owners.. every virtual space (the central plaze, the mall, the theater, the bowling alley, the game spaces) are all full with people.. sure the Stores and theater are short on content.. but what do you expect at this early stage.. more is sure to come.. sure the arcade games are simple and the bowling, pool, and chess are basic.. but that's why this is a gaming console.. you have LPB, R2, GTA4, and more to play.. these areas are just meant to socially interact with your PSN friendslist beyond a simple message box...

donalbane

OK, for starters almost nobody has, or chooses to use, a bluetooth headset. Maybe if Sony had included a headset bundled in with their most popular hardware, as Microsoft did, people would actually be able to socialize. As it is now, I just run around saying "Can anybody hear me? I can't hear anybody! TALK TO MEEEE!" Sorry, but typing, especially with a virtual keyboard, doesn't cut it in this day and age.

firstly, play a game of Socom: COnfrontation and nearly 95% of the players voicechat at any given time.. the same was the case for COD4.. so i dont think this an issue of a lack of headsets.. alot of time in social forums people just like to type rather than voicechat.. i do it too in Home.. i type to a random person but i voicechat with established buddies or someone who voicechats to me first...

secondly, how are keyboards no longer cutting it in this day and age of social forums.. arent u using a keyboard now?..

I like it , but I just want more stuff - give me moar !!!

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="masterdante"]the only reason there is so much racism and woman are harrassed so much is because simply theres nothing better to do in home, like its not like theres a game to focus on or anything all you can do thats "fun" for some people is just be an A holemasterdante

Home is serving a purpose right now though. I've made more than a few friends by going into Home already. If Home continues to evolve and expand with innovative ideas that will work in a 3D environment... I think Home can be great. But then again, the other day I logged into Home and was greeted by a line of people circling around the Square doing the running man. I've never lol'd so hard at a "game" in my life. lol.carljohnson3456

exactly...

[QUOTE="masterdante"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I dont think that's it. I think it's because people hide behind the internet to be vulgar because they can get away with it. I know it isnt because there isnt anything better to do in Home because it's like that over chat rooms, forums, Xbox Live and PSN. Racism and sexism on the internet is easy to get away with. That's why people do it, because they apparently need an excuse to be vulgar.carljohnson3456

wsup dude.. it was cool running into you aswell.. but i have to disagree with you on this one..

PSN's profile pages include a quick bio and trophy lists that are available via the console itself, playstation.com, and the PSP.. it's just that now we have another way of interacting with the PSN community via Home.. and i find it funny that you find Home more closely matched with AOL chatrooms yet use MSN messenger as a "plus" for XBL.. lol..

and when you say "more to do", what do you want?.. Home is a virtual space to go and hang out inbetween gaming sessions.. you may run into a buddy like i did with you.. you may meet up with your "club"; members.. you may get involved in a random conversation.. and it's all good.. it's an internet based 3D chatroom.. how much "structure" do you think you're going to have?.. seeing all the randomness (as you put it) is part of the charm for me and part of the reason i even log on.. just to see what people are doing next... yesterday on Attack of the Show, Kevin P told everyone to download Home and logon during the show tonight for a suprise.. i'll be logging on to check that out too.. how is this not a "community" yet your list of friends and friends's friends somehow is?...

just two different ways to the same end my friend.. you just happen to prefer the XBL method and i prefer PSN's.. no biggie.. but when it's all said and done, NXE was a much smaller undertaking in comparison to Home.. so yea, it makes sense that it would deliver sooner.. and Home has been in development for 2 years and it's still in Beta?.. yea, that ideal sucks but this "open beta" is still providing PSN with something that it didnt have before and something that no other home console has.. a 3D social network.. a comminuty hub.. and no, that's not a bad thing...

Antwan3K

What I'm looking for in Home is a way to interact with people that's more gaming-focused. Allow people to party up easily and launch into a game other than Warhawk. For me, that would be the bare minimum. Otherwise, it's a glorified 3D chatroom. At least let my character have a persistent bubble over his head to announce what I want to talk to other people about.

The difference between Kevin P and my friends list is that he has a national TV show to tell everyone to log in. Even then, it's still a random experience. It's like logging onto XBL and just joining a quick match. You don't know who you're going to meet. At least with the Xbox dash, there's a bit more focus. I can join a party that one of my friends is in and just join with one or two button presses.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

One thing I think we can agree on is that right now, Home is a blank canvas. We'll have ot wait and see what Sony does with it.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Antwan3K"]the people who call it a "failure" are the very one's who cant even tell you what Home is meant to be.. they say that it's failed but cant even clearly define it's purpose.. please tell me how it's failed at being a 3D chatroom.. it hasnt.. but somehow being a "3D chatroom" is a failure to some people who expected more.. here is what Home is supposed to be:

"PlayStation®Home is a 3D social gaming community that allows PLAYSTATION®3 users to meet, chat, plan, and launch into games together. You can create your own custom avatar, decorate your personal apartment, play mini-games, shop, watch videos, attend special events, and much more - it's all part of PlayStation®Home."

in other words, it's a 3D chatroom.. log on to Home and tell me what you see.. a 3D chatroom that's full of PS3 owners.. every virtual space (the central plaze, the mall, the theater, the bowling alley, the game spaces) are all full with people.. sure the Stores and theater are short on content.. but what do you expect at this early stage.. more is sure to come.. sure the arcade games are simple and the bowling, pool, and chess are basic.. but that's why this is a gaming console.. you have LPB, R2, GTA4, and more to play.. these areas are just meant to socially interact with your PSN friendslist beyond a simple message box...

Antwan3K

OK, for starters almost nobody has, or chooses to use, a bluetooth headset. Maybe if Sony had included a headset bundled in with their most popular hardware, as Microsoft did, people would actually be able to socialize. As it is now, I just run around saying "Can anybody hear me? I can't hear anybody! TALK TO MEEEE!" Sorry, but typing, especially with a virtual keyboard, doesn't cut it in this day and age.

firstly, play a game of Socom: COnfrontation and nearly 95% of the players voicechat at any given time.. the same was the case for COD4.. so i dont think this an issue of a lack of headsets.. alot of time in social forums people just like to type rather than voicechat.. i do it too in Home.. i type to a random person but i voicechat with established buddies or someone who voicechats to me first...

secondly, how are keyboards no longer cutting it in this day and age of social forums.. arent u using a keyboard now?..

Furthermore, I have the Xbox 360 version of COD4, and bought my father the PS3 version for his birthday, and I'm sorry but in my experiences fewer than 10% of PSN users have active headsets. On the 360, by comparison, I'd say the numbers are flipped... most games average around 90% chat. If you have both consoles, try comparing sometime and get back to me. I also did this with both versions of GTAIV, and had the same experience. If you play with a clan or regular bunch of guys you know or whatever, the number of people with headsets won't reflect the norm.