Honest non-fanboy question. Why do PS3 exclusives look so amazing?

When you look at the specs, especially the ram I just can't understand how it can produce visuals like we see in KZ3, Uncharted 3 and the God of War series. I mean Sony's 1st party developers must be magicians, or something. Even if the PS4 is only 5-6x more powerful than the PS3 I can only imagine what those same devs can do with the extra horsepower. Is the Cell processor really that great compared to the Xenon when developers take advantage of it?

Naughty Dog.

Lol.

better first party talentcampzor

[QUOTE="campzor"]better first party talentemgesp

It wouldn't really take the magicians in Sony's first party studios to do amazing things with that power. If ANYONE made a game that actually used the full power of a PC like that, it would shatter minds harder than Crysis did in 2007.

i think its all about the technology. the developers are good but they cant be omg the best in the world

Because the games are ultra-linear?

i think its all about the technology. the developers are good but they cant be omg the best in the world

planbfreak4eva

When you look at the specs, especially the ram I just can't understand how it can produce visuals like we see in KZ3, Uncharted 3 and the God of War series. I mean Sony's 1st party developers must be magicians, or something. Even if the PS4 is only 5-6x more powerful than the PS3 I can only imagine what those same devs can do with the extra horsepower. Is the Cell processor really that great compared to the Xenos when developers take advantage of it?

emgesp

CELL is more than 3x more powerful than Xenon in terms of GFLOPs (CELL: 230 GFLOPS, Xenon: 77 GFLOPS). Also although the RAM is split, which causes problems with development of multiplats, the XDR RAM (that PS3 has 256 MBs of) is extremely fast. Other factor is that every single PS3 has HDD, which allows to program with HDD in mind (Naughty Dog mentioned this in relation with texture streaming).

Sony werent dumb when they decided to invest so heavily into such space tech (CELL) when introducing PS3, they just expected to dominate the market once again so that most developers will develop exclusively on PS3 and maybe then port their games over to xbox (which would be almost impossible - and Sony was hoping to get exclusivity for most of 3rd party games for that reason), but when they screwed the launch, most devs decided to do the opposite - develop for xbox and then port their games to PS3. And thats what the unique PS3 architecture sucks at.

Because the games are ultra-linear?

Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Because the games are ultra-linear?

emgesp

I never said there was a problem with that design.

I'm just saying that's why they look good.

I didn't realize it was that much more powerful than the Xenon. It's just funny seeing the PS3 struggle with ports like COD when it's visually not even in the same league as KZ3. Too bad developers don't have enough time to properly port games to the PS3.

Because the games are ultra-linear?

Ly_the_Fairy

Because they try too hard to be cinematic.

Because they try too hard to be cinematic.

RogueStatus28

It's really just ND, GG and Santa Monica games that look that good. It's budget, time and a case of being highly staffed compared to other studios perhaps. Floppy_Jim

I would add Insomniac and Sucker Punch ! Both Resistance 3 and Infamous 2 look gorgeous !

[QUOTE="RogueStatus28"]

Because they try too hard to be cinematic.

emgesp

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Sony's 1st party developers knows the PS3 hardware and knows how to program code for it. Sony must have schooled the hell out of their devs beforehand with their dev kit.

Also, Sony's devs are just better unlike MS.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Because the games are ultra-linear?

Killzonage

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Sony's 1st party developers knows the PS3 hardware and knows how to program code for it. Sony must have schooled the hell out of their devs beforehand with their dev kit.

Also, Sony's devs are just better unlike MS.

GamerwillzPS

Our wannabe hermit goes ""MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO""

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Sony's 1st party developers knows the PS3 hardware and knows how to program code for it. Sony must have schooled the hell out of their devs beforehand with their dev kit.

Also, Sony's devs are just better unlike MS.

USS_Data

Our wannabe hermit goes ""MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO""

Because you disagree with me?

FFS the 360 can produce visuals that are just as good. Hitman Ab Solution looks better than any PS3 exclusive and it's on 360.

Halo 4 looks just as good as any PS3 exclusive.

Well they look better then the crappy PS multiplats because Sony devs can take all the time and money they need to make that Cell do it's tricks. The funny thing about this gen is that multiplats look at least as good as the exclusives but fanboys can't be admitting that can they? ;)locopatho

Soooooo f*cking true. Good looking multiplats almost never get mentioned by either faction, unless the game just so happens to be on PC. Hermits arn't afraid to to give the multiplats some love.

FFS the 360 can produce visuals that are just as good. Hitman Ab Solution looks better than any PS3 exclusive and it's on 360.

Halo 4 looks just as good as any PS3 exclusive.

Master_ShakeXXX

FFS the 360 can produce visuals that are just as good. Hitman Ab Solution looks better than any PS3 exclusive and it's on 360.

Halo 4 looks just as good as any PS3 exclusive.

Master_ShakeXXX

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. delta3074

[QUOTE="emgesp"]

When you look at the specs, especially the ram I just can't understand how it can produce visuals like we see in KZ3, Uncharted 3 and the God of War series. I mean Sony's 1st party developers must be magicians, or something. Even if the PS4 is only 5-6x more powerful than the PS3 I can only imagine what those same devs can do with the extra horsepower. Is the Cell processor really that great compared to the Xenos when developers take advantage of it?

BlbecekBobecek

CELL is more than 3x more powerful than Xenon in terms of GFLOPs (CELL: 230 GFLOPS, Xenon: 77 GFLOPS). Also although the RAM is split, which causes problems with development of multiplats, the XDR RAM (that PS3 has 256 MBs of) is extremely fast. Other factor is that every single PS3 has HDD, which allows to program with HDD in mind (Naughty Dog mentioned this in relation with texture streaming).

Sony werent dumb when they decided to invest so heavily into such space tech (CELL) when introducing PS3, they just expected to dominate the market once again so that most developers will develop exclusively on PS3 and maybe then port their games over to xbox (which would be almost impossible - and Sony was hoping to get exclusivity for most of 3rd party games for that reason), but when they screwed the launch, most devs decided to do the opposite - develop for xbox and then port their games to PS3. And thats what the unique PS3 architecture sucks at.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Sony's 1st party developers knows the PS3 hardware and knows how to program code for it. Sony must have schooled the hell out of their devs beforehand with their dev kit.

Also, Sony's devs are just better unlike MS.

USS_Data

Our wannabe hermit goes ""MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO""

Yep, he tends to do that a lot when we have a thread praising the PS3's strengths and advantages...

But when we have a thread praising the 360 strengths and advantages, then he goes "LOL, LOL, consolite casuals. PC gaming master race FTW!" ;)

[QUOTE="USS_Data"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Sony's 1st party developers knows the PS3 hardware and knows how to program code for it. Sony must have schooled the hell out of their devs beforehand with their dev kit.

Also, Sony's devs are just better unlike MS.

Rocker6

Our wannabe hermit goes ""MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO""

Yep, he tends to do that a lot when we have a thread praising the PS3's strengths and advantages...

But when we have a thread praising the 360 strengths and advantages, then he goes "LOL, LOL, consolite casuals. PC gaming master race FTW!" ;)

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. planbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. planbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="delta3074"]It is, But only Margianlly and thats theoretical anyway, The Bottom line is they Both have Strengths and weakness, One thing Halo 4 Proved is that the 360 Can Match the Ps3 in Grphical Fidelity but just like PS3 games it sacrificed Scale to do that, Halo 4 is the best looking Halo to Date, but for me, it was also the most linear, it aslos shows waht you can do with A huge Budget.adamosmaki

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="delta3074"]It is, But only Margianlly and thats theoretical anyway, The Bottom line is they Both have Strengths and weakness, One thing Halo 4 Proved is that the 360 Can Match the Ps3 in Grphical Fidelity but just like PS3 games it sacrificed Scale to do that, Halo 4 is the best looking Halo to Date, but for me, it was also the most linear, it aslos shows waht you can do with A huge Budget.adamosmaki

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] do you know how much lower kz3, uc3, and gow3s budget is compared to halo. and with that little budget and 1 year less on the market, it can still show better looking gamesplanbfreak4eva

Sony has more tallented first party devs. That said, PS3 exclusives don't look better than the latest 360 ones, like Gears 3, Forza Horizon and Halo 4.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] i said much lower budget. and little budget was in contrast to halos budgets.PinnacleGamingP

Halo 4 looks great, but I still give games like God of War 3 and Killzone 3 the edge in graphics, especially in regards to character animations.

It is a known fact that PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Sony's 1st party developers knows the PS3 hardware and knows how to program code for it. Sony must have schooled the hell out of their devs beforehand with their dev kit.

Also, Sony's devs are just better unlike MS.

GamerwillzPS

I'm surprised that so many people still eat the 'PS3 is more powerful' myth lol

Any logic explanation for the fact Halo 4 look as good or better than any PS3 exclusive?