*Honestly* without any biasing.. which is better graphically, PS3 or XBOX360 ?

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#1 milan22
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let's make it simple and smooth, which has better graphics? let me begin, i say Xbox360 (i'm a ps3 owner BTW) PLZ biased fanboys just stay out of this!!
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Both platforms manage to create truly amazing visuals -- both have proved this. I dont see a point in arguing if a game looks slightly better than another.
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#3 killerfist
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They're pretty much the same imo.
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#4 Fire-of-Njozi
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they're about equal. graphical capabilities for games appear to be exclusively a function of the talent-level of the developers making games for the systems. both have games that shine.
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#5 st1ka
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they're about equal really
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#7 Master-Thief-09
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2006 - Gears of War 2007 - Uncharted 2008 - Gears of War 2? (question mark for teh MGS4 fanboys) 2009 - KZ2 probably, though still early in the year. I'll say they're about the same, but PS3 probably has more potential.
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#8 MikeLirette
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Well to be honest it seems that the graphics on the 360 are toned out a bit more than the PS3, there are less jagged edges and such, but it's not even much of a difference to ever notice unless you look for it really closely, both are great.
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#10 Vixolus
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I THINK its the PS3 regarding it has a Blu-Ray disk.. so it can preform MUCH better visuals than a DVD.. but then again the Xbox uses DVD use to the limits and beyond really.
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#11 Norg
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well ports tend to favor 360 because some developers dont like to use the Cell system in the PS3 and get lazy

But buliding a PS3 game from the ground up like first party PS3 games tend to look better like MGS4 and Insomanic and Naughty dogg really know how to tap the power of the PS3

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They both have 512MB of RAM and a GPU that's almost identical, so therefore, theoretically, they're basically the same.
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I THINK its the PS3 regarding it has a Blu-Ray disk.. so it can preform MUCH better visuals than a DVD.. but then again the Xbox uses DVD use to the limits and beyond really.Vixolus
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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depends on the game maker not so much the console
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#15 Maxyboy13
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[QUOTE="Vixolus"]I THINK its the PS3 regarding it has a Blu-Ray disk.. so it can preform MUCH better visuals than a DVD.. but then again the Xbox uses DVD use to the limits and beyond really.Master-Thief-09
You have no idea what you're talking about.

I second this statement.

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#16 milan22
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I THINK its the PS3 regarding it has a Blu-Ray disk.. so it can preform MUCH better visuals than a DVD.. but then again the Xbox uses DVD use to the limits and beyond really.Vixolus
u hv a point.. i believe that if ps3 uses the full potential of it's blu-ray ability, then it'll amaze us!!
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#17 Andrew_Xavier
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Without bias, neither honestly, both have proven fully capable of delivering exceptional graphics, and both machines feature games that would be included in any "best graphics" catagory.
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[QUOTE="Vixolus"]I THINK its the PS3 regarding it has a Blu-Ray disk.. so it can preform MUCH better visuals than a DVD.. but then again the Xbox uses DVD use to the limits and beyond really.milan22
u hv a point.. i believe that if ps3 uses the full potential of it's blu-ray ability, then it'll amaze us!!

Theoretically, yes, Blu-ray can hold more content, but the system itself is still limited to 512MB of RAM, so the system itself can only stream so many textures, characters, etc, on the screen at once. While the disc offers a lot of possibilities, the PS3 is held back by a GPU and RAM on par with 360. The Cell is more powerful than the competitor, but that only helps physic calculations (and GTA IV already has some of the best physics/animations this gen due to the Euphoria Engine), etc.

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#19 ExplosiveChorro
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Obamanian incoming. 3....2....1....

but yeah , judging from Killzone 2 i would say PS3 at this point

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#20 Gl0ry_L0rd
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Obamanian incoming. 3....2....1....

but yeah , judging from Killzone 2 i would say PS3 at this point

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Lol.

Both are about equal, although so far nothing on the 360 has topped KZ2.

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let's make it simple and smooth, which has better graphics? let me begin, i say Xbox360 (i'm a ps3 owner BTW) PLZ biased fanboys just stay out of this!!milan22
big mistake, now ***you know who*** is going to spam the usual screenshots of fable 2 pics/ alan wake PC pics / etc. (he keeps them on a clipboard)
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#22 glez13
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"][QUOTE="Vixolus"]I THINK its the PS3 regarding it has a Blu-Ray disk.. so it can preform MUCH better visuals than a DVD.. but then again the Xbox uses DVD use to the limits and beyond really.Maxyboy13

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I second this statement.

LOL third this statement.

Why some people think that a blu-ray disk works as some kind of makeshift GPU?

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i think ps3 does better because it has 7 cells i think, and 360 only has 4 cells.
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#24 gamer7890
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[QUOTE="ExplosiveChorro"]

Obamanian incoming. 3....2....1....

but yeah , judging from Killzone 2 i would say PS3 at this point

lol yea he just said in the other thread alan wake 360 will be equal 99% to the PC...
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#26 gamer7890
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[QUOTE="gamer7890"][QUOTE="milan22"]let's make it simple and smooth, which has better graphics? let me begin, i say Xbox360 (i'm a ps3 owner BTW) PLZ biased fanboys just stay out of this!!milan22
big mistake, now ***you know who*** is going to spam the usual screenshots of fable 2 pics/ alan wake PC pics / etc. (he keeps them on a clipboard)

what's wrong with u here, u need medication or somethin'? :( we hv a serious topic here, so stop wasting some space here

dont say i didnt warn you...hes coming and you know it :P but yea on topic KZ2 next month blah blah blah, its console graphics king period you cant argue otherwise
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#27 tek91
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I think it is about even now with PS3 slightly having an edge as far as the future PS3 will take it when it releases games using it's full potential.
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#28 gamer7890
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i think ps3 does better because it has 7 cells i think, and 360 only has 4 cells.sethman410
umm 360 has 3 cores and PS3 has 8 (1 locked/1 used for OS) so 6 i guess
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#29 gamewhat
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THey are both the same or equal in graphics department. The PS3 has more potential (killzone 2, heavy rain, and Uncharted to name a few). just buy what ever makes you happy you can't go wrong. On the bright side you have the 360 which is cheaper, better controller and no load installs (ps3 sucks because of this) barely a little better online service (easier to bug your friends while playing a game. The downside to the 360 is scratched disks beyond replayability (mine is notorious for this), paying $60/year for online multiplayer (If you make a bad online name you have to pay 13 dollars to have it changed), no blu-ray player (fanboys say this doesn't make a difference but trust me it does), And depending on what version of 360 you get you'll being paying the exact same price as you would for a ps3, plus 60 dollars every year if you like playing online. Not being biased just stating facts that I have run into personally and I thought I'd share my experience to help you make a choice. It's your choice so good luck you can't go wrong with either choice.

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#30 urdead18
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Because nothing on 360 comes close to Killzone 2, I'll go with Ps3.

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#31 ExplosiveChorro
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[QUOTE="ExplosiveChorro"]

Obamanian incoming. 3....2....1....

but yeah , judging from Killzone 2 i would say PS3 at this point

gamer7890
lol yea he just said in the other thread alan wake 360 will be equal 99% to the PC...

:lol: everything on PC looks better than on consoles. Obamanian is such a fanboy.
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#32 gamewhat
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]i think ps3 does better because it has 7 cells i think, and 360 only has 4 cells.gamer7890
umm 360 has 3 cores and PS3 has 8 (1 locked/1 used for OS) so 6 i guess

Umm 360 has 3 true cores while the ps3 has 1 core with 7 usable cells. Both very different but both very effective.
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#33 gamer7890
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[QUOTE="ExplosiveChorro"][QUOTE="gamer7890"][QUOTE="ExplosiveChorro"]

Obamanian incoming. 3....2....1....

but yeah , judging from Killzone 2 i would say PS3 at this point

lol yea he just said in the other thread alan wake 360 will be equal 99% to the PC...

:lol: everything on PC looks better than on consoles. Obamanian is such a fanboy.

lol we know, to be honest in 1 thread i uncovered almost all of the 360 fanboys in systemwars on 1 page :P
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#34 gamer7890
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[QUOTE="gamer7890"][QUOTE="sethman410"]i think ps3 does better because it has 7 cells i think, and 360 only has 4 cells.gamewhat
umm 360 has 3 cores and PS3 has 8 (1 locked/1 used for OS) so 6 i guess

Umm 360 has 3 true cores while the ps3 has 1 core with 7 usable cells. Both very different but both very effective.

yea, PS3 has 8 SPE's which are used for anythign and everything including graphics
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#35 StealthKnife
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if you mess around with hd tv settings, you can make them look equally as beautiful

those ps3 vs 360 graphic things on GS are BS, lol

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You can't have unbiased discussion in SW. And according to a certain someone, being unbiased is impossible and everyone must blindly bash rival platforms...:roll:

But with that said, They are about same.

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#37 milan22
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Because nothing on 360 comes close to Killzone 2, I'll go with Ps3.

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people why we r all so hyped for killzone2 graphics? i mean, it's not like we 100% KNOW that's it's going to be the best! like 90% of ps3 games, it might suffer from jaggies, blurs and/or framerate drops (possibilites, nothing more or less).... so ye here people, dnt be so hyped if u dnt wanna be dissapointed..
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They have equal power and versatility.
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#39 Fire-of-Njozi
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You can't have unbiased discussion in SW. And according to a certain someone, being unbiased is impossible and everyone must blindly bash rival platforms...:roll:

But with that said, They are about same.

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#40 -Master_St3ve-
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Honestly I heard the PS3 is more powerful. I was listening to a radio show where they interviewed some devs, it would take me forever to find it again. They said the PS3 is more powerful it's just really hard to dev for. That's why were not seeing it right now.
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#41 urdead18
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[QUOTE="milan22"][QUOTE="urdead18"]

Because nothing on 360 comes close to Killzone 2, I'll go with Ps3.

people why we r all so hyped for killzone2 graphics? i mean, it's not like we 100% KNOW that's it's going to be the best! like 90% of ps3 games, it might suffer from jaggies, blurs and/or framerate drops (possibilites, nothing more or less).... so ye here people, dnt be so hyped if u dnt wanna be dissapointed..

Nope, I was in the beta and it had no framerate drops or anything.No jaggies, no nothing. Even the online multiplayer beta was the best console game I've ever seen. Also, there are tons of videos online that'll show you that it doesn't suffer from any of those things. I know exactly how it looks and plays, and I'm super-hyped for the release.
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#42 armyman455
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i think the ps3 has the capabilities to be slightly more than the 360 but itusuallyencounters framerate issues when they try to make it more so in long term about equal as well becausepersonallyi would prefer slightly less graphics with no framerate issues over the alternative
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Honestly I heard the PS3 is more powerful. I listen to a radio show where they interviewed some devs, it would take me forever to find it again. They said the PS3 is more powerful it's just really hard to dev for. That's why were not seeing it right now. -Master_St3ve-
the only thing that matters are the games. if the games don't show a meaningful advantage either way, nothing else...nothing "on paper" really matters.
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#44 Maxyboy13
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:Looks Up:

Yeah, it's a tie.

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#45 milan22
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="milan22"][QUOTE="urdead18"]

Because nothing on 360 comes close to Killzone 2, I'll go with Ps3.

people why we r all so hyped for killzone2 graphics? i mean, it's not like we 100% KNOW that's it's going to be the best! like 90% of ps3 games, it might suffer from jaggies, blurs and/or framerate drops (possibilites, nothing more or less).... so ye here people, dnt be so hyped if u dnt wanna be dissapointed..

Nope, I was in the beta and it had no framerate drops or anything.No jaggies, no nothing. Even the online multiplayer beta was the best console game I've ever seen. Also, there are tons of videos online that'll show you that it doesn't suffer from any of those things. I know exactly how it looks and plays, and I'm super-hyped for the release.

ummm interesting! does it run on 1080p ?
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#46 armyman455
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="milan22"][QUOTE="urdead18"]

Because nothing on 360 comes close to Killzone 2, I'll go with Ps3.

people why we r all so hyped for killzone2 graphics? i mean, it's not like we 100% KNOW that's it's going to be the best! like 90% of ps3 games, it might suffer from jaggies, blurs and/or framerate drops (possibilites, nothing more or less).... so ye here people, dnt be so hyped if u dnt wanna be dissapointed..

Nope, I was in the beta and it had no framerate drops or anything.No jaggies, no nothing. Even the online multiplayer beta was the best console game I've ever seen. Also, there are tons of videos online that'll show you that it doesn't suffer from any of those things. I know exactly how it looks and plays, and I'm super-hyped for the release.

but milan has a point remember killzone 1? how it was supposed to be amazing and the supposed halo killer? and it really was buggy and not that good
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#47 gamer7890
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="milan22"] people why we r all so hyped for killzone2 graphics? i mean, it's not like we 100% KNOW that's it's going to be the best! like 90% of ps3 games, it might suffer from jaggies, blurs and/or framerate drops (possibilites, nothing more or less).... so ye here people, dnt be so hyped if u dnt wanna be dissapointed..milan22
Nope, I was in the beta and it had no framerate drops or anything.No jaggies, no nothing. Even the online multiplayer beta was the best console game I've ever seen. Also, there are tons of videos online that'll show you that it doesn't suffer from any of those things. I know exactly how it looks and plays, and I'm super-hyped for the release.

ummm interesting! does it run on 1080p ?

native 720p/1080i so 1080p would be upscaled
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="milan22"] people why we r all so hyped for killzone2 graphics? i mean, it's not like we 100% KNOW that's it's going to be the best! like 90% of ps3 games, it might suffer from jaggies, blurs and/or framerate drops (possibilites, nothing more or less).... so ye here people, dnt be so hyped if u dnt wanna be dissapointed..milan22
Nope, I was in the beta and it had no framerate drops or anything.No jaggies, no nothing. Even the online multiplayer beta was the best console game I've ever seen. Also, there are tons of videos online that'll show you that it doesn't suffer from any of those things. I know exactly how it looks and plays, and I'm super-hyped for the release.

ummm interesting! does it run on 1080p ?

No, it does not. It runs 1080i as its highest native resolution.
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#49 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

You can't have unbiased discussion in SW. And according to a certain someone, being unbiased is impossible and everyone must blindly bash rival platforms...:roll:

But with that said, They are about same.

Fire-of-Njozi

lol. if Aljosa stepped on your toe, don't reply...just say "ouch" and move on.

:lol:

I just had too, he knows who he is. :P

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#50 T-Aldous
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they are pretty even. they seem to just switch off. First it was Gears then Uncharted then Gears 2 and now it should be Killzone 2 until the 360 comes out with something better than that.....so, yeah.