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Poll Horizon v. Scalebound (180 votes)

Horizon (PS4) 52%
Scalebound (XBONE) 48%

Two massive action RPG exclusives we know little about but have now seen game play. Which one do you think looks better?

Horizon

Developer: Guerrilla Games (Sony's internal)

Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment

Scalebound

Developer: PlatinumGames

Publisher: Microsoft Studio

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#151 deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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@batosaims said:
@silversix_ said:
@Samus3D said:
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Why is this even compared? Horizon looks next gen

So did Killzone Shadow Fall.

Killzone is Killzone, everyone knew how it'll be. This *if open world* could be an amazing new series.

Or in the more likely scenario could be a polished turd like most of Guerrilla Games titles.

You can deck out a pig (a Guerrilla game) with lipstick (pretty graphics) but it'll still be a pig.

In all seriousness just as every other new IP, Horizon has potential.

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#152 BobRossPerm
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@batosaims said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
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A 75 average metacritic score, putting them well below 343, Turn 10, probably well below the Coalition unless Gears Ultimate flops (which it won't) slightly below Lionhead and Rare,

Of course a 75 average is above a majority of Sony 1st party studios but it'll be hilarious when Guerrilla chokes and Horizon flops, the look cows face after hyping it GOTY will be priceless.

Two, maybe three if you're lucky? Thanks for confirming my point. :)

It's always great when fanboys get egg on their face, look what happened when the MCC wound up completely and utterly broken.

lol lose and argument and change the subject, typical cow tactic, it's sad when one of Sony's more notable developers has a lower MC average than freaking Rare of all developers

You're correct basically. Guerilla have only really made Killzone and the second game is the only trully good one. But a lot of the problem with Killzone in general was how lackluster the universe was. The whole thing translated to a generic, brown FPS game for the most part. With Horizon, they have a chance to do something really good and from looking at what we have already seen, and what they have teased with words, it could potentially be excellent. I mean the game has been in development longer than Killzone Shadowfall started and finished development, it's clearly their primary focus and I don't think Shadowfall is a good game to judge their potential on.

I do have more trust for Platinum and Kamiya, and I did think Scalebound looked a little cooler from a gameplay standpoint, but that doesn't mean I want Horizon to be a bad game, I am looking forward to see what exactly they do with this concept because robot dinos is pretty rad.

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#153 batosaims
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@bobrossperm: Thank you for at least making a well thought out, credible post.

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#154 silversix_
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@batosaims said:
@silversix_ said:
@Samus3D said:
@silversix_ said:

Why is this even compared? Horizon looks next gen

So did Killzone Shadow Fall.

Killzone is Killzone, everyone knew how it'll be. This *if open world* could be an amazing new series.

Or in the more likely scenario could be a polished turd like most of Guerrilla Games titles.

Most? All they make is KZ so the "most" part doesn't mean much. From what was shown, it looked far from being a turd.

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#155 batosaims
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@silversix_ said:
@batosaims said:
@silversix_ said:
@Samus3D said:
@silversix_ said:

Why is this even compared? Horizon looks next gen

So did Killzone Shadow Fall.

Killzone is Killzone, everyone knew how it'll be. This *if open world* could be an amazing new series.

Or in the more likely scenario could be a polished turd like most of Guerrilla Games titles.

Most? All they make is KZ so the "most" part doesn't mean much. From what was shown, it looked far from being a turd.

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#156 silversix_
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@batosaims said:
@silversix_ said:
@batosaims said:
@silversix_ said:
@Samus3D said:
@silversix_ said:

Why is this even compared? Horizon looks next gen

So did Killzone Shadow Fall.

Killzone is Killzone, everyone knew how it'll be. This *if open world* could be an amazing new series.

Or in the more likely scenario could be a polished turd like most of Guerrilla Games titles.

Most? All they make is KZ so the "most" part doesn't mean much. From what was shown, it looked far from being a turd.

what else could it be? Not like the game is out and we can try it

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#157 GrenadeLauncher
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@batosaims said:

I only listed the more notable one's, I could easily find more but the fact that GG is below Rare and Lionhead is humiliation enough

Pray to Sony that GG doesn't **** up Horizon, even though they probably will :)

Dunno about that, Lionhead have been around longer but produced much less and MS-era Rare has been dire.

GG has been technically good but creatively a bit flaky. With TW3 and FNV staff on board I have a lot more confidence in this project.

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#158 batosaims
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@batosaims said:

I only listed the more notable one's, I could easily find more but the fact that GG is below Rare and Lionhead is humiliation enough

Pray to Sony that GG doesn't **** up Horizon, even though they probably will :)

Dunno about that, Lionhead have been around longer but produced much less and MS-era Rare has been dire.

GG has been technically good but creatively a bit flaky. With TW3 and FNV staff on board I have a lot more confidence in this project.

For your sake you better hope so

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#159 Boddicker
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Horizon by a long shot

I saw Scalebound in motion just last night. The first thing I thought OMG it's the DMC reboot's Dante. The same irritating overconfidence and snarky humor. The techno music was just jarring and felt really out of place. The faceless stormtroopers and the pod-like things they were housed in looked like they were straight out of Final Fantasy. The bright, clean color palette also struck me as very Final Fantasy.

Speaking of Horizon I'm hoping that she only dictates her every move in the beginning, but atleast it's an original concept. I'm rooting for Guerilla to finally make a good game. The Killzone IP should be bashed in the head with a claw hammer and buried in a shallow grave.

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#160 darkangel115
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@oflow said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:

Horizon is a GOTY contender. Scalebound is something MS paid Platinum to rush out that Kamiya doesn't even like.

GOTY contender? based on what exactly? You have only seen scripted gameplay of Horizon. I guess its GOTY because it has robot dinosaurs? Or another red-headed female protagonist maybe?

Its being made by Guerilla Games known for way more sizzle than steak. In contrast Platinum made Bayonetta which got a 10.

because cows will call any sony exclusive GOTY. horizons looks awesome, but calling it GOTY already after 1 video is why cows are the laughing stock of system wars. they over exaggerate way more then any fan base.

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#161  Edited By GarGx1
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After 5 days and 154 votes the results are 50/50 that's not bad at all.

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#162 cablemodemx2
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Scalebound. If it doesn't work it's way around Microsoft's usual routine of releasing for the PC as well, I'll be the reason I end up picking up an XBOne. Horizon looks good as well and, as I already have a PS4, I'll be picking it up likely at release, if not a little later.

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#164 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Horizon, for the female lead design, alone. They've essentially stole what Laura Croft once was and have now made her look like a sissy girl.

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#165  Edited By ddlcpc
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so far.. horizon hands down from char, eviron... music and gameplay....

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#166  Edited By ronvalencia
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Both look promising, but any final judgement should be reserved when both titles hits gold/candidate release status.

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#167 Guy_Brohski
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Oh wow, the poll is almost dead-even. Am I sensing 50/50 cow/lemSpot?

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#168  Edited By batosaims
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@Guy_Brohski said:

Oh wow, the poll is almost dead-even. Am I sensing 50/50 cow/lemSpot?

There are probably 2-3x as many cows on SW than lems at this point, it's just most people have enough common sense to know that a game made by Kamiya is worth 1000x more than a game made by a mediocre developer like Guerrilla Games

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#169 RR360DD
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One is made by GuerilLOL

That says it all really

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@darkangel115 said:

because cows will call any sony exclusive GOTY. horizons looks awesome, but calling it GOTY already after 1 video is why cows are the laughing stock of system wars. they over exaggerate way more then any fan base.

No worse than my lemming bros crying with joy over Quantum Wait, Donte Does Dragons and ISPDown 3.

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#172 batosaims
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@darkangel115 said:

because cows will call any sony exclusive GOTY. horizons looks awesome, but calling it GOTY already after 1 video is why cows are the laughing stock of system wars. they over exaggerate way more then any fan base.

No worse than my lemming bros crying with joy over Quantum Wait, Donte Does Dragons and ISPDown 3.

Ignoring the fact that 2 of those developers have much better track records than Guerrilla, I haven't seen a single person here call GOTY for any of those games,

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#173 darkangel115
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@batosaims said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@darkangel115 said:

because cows will call any sony exclusive GOTY. horizons looks awesome, but calling it GOTY already after 1 video is why cows are the laughing stock of system wars. they over exaggerate way more then any fan base.

No worse than my lemming bros crying with joy over Quantum Wait, Donte Does Dragons and ISPDown 3.

Ignoring the fact that 2 of those developers have much better track records than Guerrilla, I haven't seen a single person here call GOTY for any of those games,

this^ Even @GrenadeLauncher response goes to prove the point.

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#174 GrenadeLauncher
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@darkangel115 said:

this^ Even @GrenadeLauncher response goes to prove the point.

When any of MS' frankly mediocre first party studios produce something worth caring about, give me a buzz. :)

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#175 darkangel115
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@darkangel115 said:

this^ Even @GrenadeLauncher response goes to prove the point.

When any of MS' frankly mediocre first party studios produce something worth caring about, give me a buzz. :)

Since what people care about is pretty subjective, I'd say that there are plenty of people who already do. Just cause you might not (because you are a cow) doesn't mean others do. for instance I do not care about you at all, but i would hope that somebody you know does ;)

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#176 GrenadeLauncher
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@darkangel115 said:

Since what people care about is pretty subjective, I'd say that there are plenty of people who already do. Just cause you might not (because you are a cow) doesn't mean others do. for instance I do not care about you at all, but i would hope that somebody you know does ;)

You care enough to waste your time replying to me because you don't like it when people laugh at your focus group-created games. :3 <3

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#177 darkangel115
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@darkangel115 said:

Since what people care about is pretty subjective, I'd say that there are plenty of people who already do. Just cause you might not (because you are a cow) doesn't mean others do. for instance I do not care about you at all, but i would hope that somebody you know does ;)

You care enough to waste your time replying to me because you don't like it when people laugh at your focus group-created games. :3 <3

i care about discussing games, not you in particular ;) it could have been any user. don't get it twisted ;)

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#178 GrenadeLauncher
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@darkangel115 said:

i care about discussing games, not you in particular ;) it could have been any user. don't get it twisted ;)

:'( </3

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#179 misterpmedia
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@darkangel115 said:

because cows will call any sony exclusive GOTY. horizons looks awesome, but calling it GOTY already after 1 video is why cows are the laughing stock of system wars. they over exaggerate way more then any fan base.

No worse than my lemming bros crying with joy over Quantum Wait, Donte Does Dragons and ISPDown 3.

lol you are getting creative

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#180  Edited By ArminYapusi
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Scalebound