Horizon Zero Dawn has better graphics than any PC game

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#51 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@calvincfb said:

@MBirdy88: can you offer an example that proves me otherwise?

I would first need clarification on your use of "Scope"...

Biggest World?
Biggest Feature Set?
Biggest Overall Content?

Either way, no thanks mate... you exist for one purpose I get it.

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#52 Calvincfb
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@zaryia: no they don't. Zaryia still butthurt about the other topic.

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#53 Calvincfb
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@MBirdy88: still waiting. Offer me an example.

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#54  Edited By IvanGrozny
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This is a list of things why HZD is not a graphic thing.

1. NPC plastic faces and hair

2. Non interactive debris. You have a fire with some stuff cooking on it. I swing my spear but it passes through. When in many game it would strike a cooking pot and it would swing. And the same thing happens with all elements that look interactive but in reality are completely static. Papers, candles, ceramics lying on the table are all indestructible. A mixed bag considering you can knock off pieces of armor from robotic animals.

3. No collision physics with NPCs like in GTA. In HZD you can literally jump on NPC heads and they won't react in any way.

4. Some severely blend textures in arid and desert environments, some low res vegetation as well.

5. Robotic facial animations for not main NPCs

The games has some gorgeous vistas, good animations and all, but in some aspects it's losing even to dark souls 3...when it comes down to environment interactivity.

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#55 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@calvincfb said:

@MBirdy88: still waiting. Offer me an example.

Still waiting, offer clarification.

And you made the claim buddy, you are the one that has to pony up first.

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#56  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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You make an assertion, you have to try to back it up.

Got a DF analysis or something? Otherwise this thread is kinda just a driveby shitstir

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#57 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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@xantufrog said:

You make an assertion, you have to try to back it up.

Got a DF analysis or something? Otherwise this thread is kinda just a driveby shitstir

Lock it then, better late than never.

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#58  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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^ Ban the account while your at it.

Didn't there use to be a rule about new accounts creating threads?

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#59 xantufrog  Moderator
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OP is "new". Can drop the ball, then I'll lock. Learning this place involves growing pains

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#60 xantufrog  Moderator
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@MBirdy88: there was. Unfortunately it was removed.

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#61 FLOPPAGE_50
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@Random_Matt said:
@xantufrog said:

You make an assertion, you have to try to back it up.

Got a DF analysis or something? Otherwise this thread is kinda just a driveby shitstir

Lock it then, better late than never.

Why?

This thread fits the criteria of most cow threads started this year.

A post with a delusional lie started to stir shit up.

It's a cow M.O.

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#62  Edited By KungfuKitten
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Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Hahaha. Oh no. Oh dear. Too much SW for one day. Oh dear.

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#63  Edited By UssjTrunks
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It looks better than any PC game in gameplay. It definitely isn't the most technically impressive game.

The game uses visual tricks to achieve those visuals. Props to Guerrilla Games for being able to pull off something like that.

See: https://kotaku.com/horizon-zero-dawn-uses-all-sorts-of-clever-tricks-to-lo-1794385026

Make no mistake though, this game would look MUCH better on the PC.

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#64  Edited By Techhog89
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@calvincfb said:

@BassMan: "muh fps"

It runs smoother than any 60fps game on PC.

Try again.

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#65 m3Boarder32
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@m3Boarder32 said:

But but the 30 FPS

@BassMan said:

If it is so great, how come it only runs at 30fps? Why did they stop there? They could have targeted 15fps and the game would have looked that much more amazing!

Seriously... Don't even brag about graphics unless the game has the performance to match. That starts with 60fps.

Like clockwork

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#66  Edited By PCgameruk
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Accept for the fact it runs at 30fps and uses a ton on motion blur to hide how choppy it is. Its beautiful no doubt but technically it hides a lot of the bad stuff with blur and makes you focus on all the prettiness of it.

You can see the pixels forming in this shot.

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#67 Zaryia
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@calvincfb said:

@zaryia: no they don't. Zaryia still butthurt about the other topic.

1. yes they do.

2. what other topic? The one were you got proven wrong and lied?

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#68 Zaryia
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

But but the 30 FPS

@BassMan said:

If it is so great, how come it only runs at 30fps? Why did they stop there? They could have targeted 15fps and the game would have looked that much more amazing!

Seriously... Don't even brag about graphics unless the game has the performance to match. That starts with 60fps.

Like clockwork

A meme doesn't invalidate a fact based argument.

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Lol, cows.

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#70 Micropixel
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@calvincfb said:

@BassMan: "muh fps"

It runs smoother than any 60fps game on PC.

Try again.

You soooo need to take a Math class calvincfb

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#71  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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Time for a Witcher 3 PC screens dump to cover this crappy thread. Come at me with some gameplay screenshots(HUD has to be included).

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#72 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Time for a Witcher 3 dump to cover this crappy thread. Come at me with some gameplay screenshots(HUD has to be included).

Both games look amazing, this thread is so stupid.

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@BassMan said:

If it is so great, how come it only runs at 30fps? Why did they stop there? They could have targeted 15fps and the game would have looked that much more amazing!

Seriously... Don't even brag about graphics unless the game has the performance to match. That starts with 60fps.

He is talking about graphics, Fcuk the framerate.....it's good enough.

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#74 Calvincfb
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@DragonfireXZ95: still not as good as horizon, try harder.

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#75 LoganX77
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Its about to be beat by god of war.

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#76 Calvincfb
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@UssjTrunks: you do know that every open world game does this, right?

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@quadknight said:

I agree it does.

While there are a few PC games that are technically ahead of HZD (Star Citizen, TW3 at Ultra Settings in 4K) there are none that match it on a purely visual level.

>purely visual level

what are you referring too exactly, artstyle?

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#78 Calvincfb
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@loganx77: true, and PC gamers will still whine because they don't have as good looking games in their 1k machines.

B-b-b-but the 30fps!!!

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#79 DragonfireXZ95
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@calvincfb said:

@DragonfireXZ95: still not as good as horizon, try harder.

You forgot gameplay screenshots. So far, you're losing this fight.

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#80 Calvincfb
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@DragonfireXZ95: only I'm not.

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#81  Edited By QuadKnight
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@moistcarrot said:
@quadknight said:

I agree it does.

While there are a few PC games that are technically ahead of HZD (Star Citizen, TW3 at Ultra Settings in 4K) there are none that match it on a purely visual level.

>purely visual level

what are you referring too exactly, artstyle?

No graphics. The other games I mentioned are better when you consider they can hit 60fps and have better image quality since they are native 4K but when I play HZD on my Pro hooked up to a 4K HDR set it still looks better than those games. If I completely ignore framerate and image quality I think HZD is the best looking game I've ever played.

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#82  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@calvincfb said:

@DragonfireXZ95: only I'm not.

You're also delusional, apparently. If you don't want to have an honest discussion with proof included, then this thread should just be closed. Good trolls would at least try.

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To me, what makes Uncharted 4 and Horizon: Zero Dawn so pretty to me is the level structure. The atmosphere, the lush greens, the cliffs, waterfalls, the rock formations. It's beautiful scenery. But it's not technically that impressive. Especially when you see them running at 30fps, but then again, as long as 30fps stays locked, I can live with that. But of course, Rise of the Tomb Raider PC in 1440p/144hz totally blows out of the water compare to Horizon.

PS4 and PC users should unite against the real enemy. The Xbox One X XD

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#84 enzyme36
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Page 2 and still inb4someonepoststhesameold2HZDgifs

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#85  Edited By GarGx1
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This is kind of idiot that makes people leave these boards and never look back. I can't fathom why you guys are even bothering to entertain a very obvious fool of a troll.

Why is it being allowed to roam free at all?

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I honestly think that AC Origins on the X looks better than HZD on the Pro. This just for a console comparison. I imagine on PC running at 4k 60fps it's not even in the same league. Though I still give it to HZD as being marginally a better game than AC.

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@davillain-: ROTTR, er no, not even close. I own the game also on PC.

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#88  Edited By Juub1990
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@quadknight said:

No graphics. The other games I mentioned are better when you consider they can hit 60fps and have better image quality since they are native 4K but when I play HZD on my Pro hooked up to a 4K HDR set it still looks better than those games. If I completely ignore framerate and image quality I think HZD is the best looking game I've ever played.

Only four complaints with the graphics:

1. Weird/plastic faces

2. Textures aren't very high-res. Don't think it has 4K textures because of the limited VRAM.

3. Water looks kinda meh. Especially compared to AC Origins

4. Lack of dynamic foliage. Only the bushes designed for you to hide in are dynamic. Almost all the foliage in Origins is dynamic.

Otherwise it looks fantastic.

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#89  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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So the answer's no then, since you ignored the request to provide some kind of justification