Horizon: Zero Dawn Hype Thread (HYPE: AAAE) 9/10 Gamespot HYPE MET

He never said it was 4k native, tiger. Framerate is better in some games released on Pro. That will only increase over time.

That was a few weeks ago. According to mah SP sources that include all E-sales as well, the number is closer to 58 mill now and half a billion Win10 gamers strong and growing. Thank you MS jazz. :P

Another impressive Sony exclusive. Sorry Lems, just going to have to deal with your 6/10 games.

Does that include digital sales of Xbox One, and bundles where they sell a game that includes an Xbox One? ;P

Pro can't even run games at 60fps today. Be real in a year time games will run like dog shit on the PRO. Just be prepared because people are going to point out the flaws when Scorpio arrives.

So you think somehow with more time devs will get worse with the platform?

This game on the Pro is not upscale 1080P but it is 4K checkerboard (not native I understand this). There is a huge difference between 1080P upscaled to 4K then the checkboard rendering Sony is using on the Pro. Is it as nice as a native 4K picture no, but there will be a cleaner image then upscaling a normal PS4 1080 picture to 4K then the checkerboard 4K rendering the Pro is using.

Non Officially no, that number would push X1 past the Bore but that's just between you and me. I don't want the cows on suicide watch once again. :P

No one said she was the first. I have no clue why yall are mad a strong female protagonist is in a game. This is awesome for the industry.

wow, im happy to see it didnt flop.

Not mad, I bought the game.

You insinuated above that this was the first.

You pick up ma PS4 slim for about 250 Dollars right now with games. I don't see why anyone would pay an extra 150 dollars to see a better image then 1080p. If the console can't reach 60fps i just would not pay that myself.

You said it's about time we got a girl in games.

How is that not saying she's the first one?

All i stated was the game had a strong female protagonist which is good for the industry. Shes a much needed character. Her design is welcome and worthy of praise.

@Jaysonguy: I said no such thing. And stop insulting her as a girl. She is a woman. A strong woman at that. A refreshing sensation for our times.

I guess when your console you chose isn't doing well, you have to resort to being a troll. Carry on kiddo.

Come on man, that's insinuating she's the first. I get what you're saying, though.

@Chutebox: I cant help what others assume.

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They have sold 52 million

That was a few weeks ago. According to mah SP sources that include all E-sales as well, the number is closer to 58 mill now and half a billion Win10 gamers strong and growing. Thank you MS jazz. :P

Does that include digital sales of Xbox One, and bundles where they sell a game that includes an Xbox One? ;P

that's just between you and me

And if caught made to walk the plank. :P

Stop it. It's clear as day.

@charizard1605: I have to take advantage of every opportunity to point out when I'm right and you're not. But silver-lining: it sets me up to think I could possibly win our next wager and, consequently, more willing to make one.

Albeit here's a dissenting take on the game from Eurogamer:

"Horizon Zero Dawn is a work of considerable finesse and technical bravado, but it falls into the trap of past Guerrilla games in being all too forgettable. For all its skin-deep dynamism it lacks spark; somewhat like the robotic dinosaurs that stalk its arrestingly beautiful open world, this is a mimic that's all dazzle, steel and neon yet can feel like it's operating without a heart of its own."

I guess when a plastic box is all you got you get all serial... Carry on Geezer. lolol :P

Hype met, thats awesome.Congrats cows and well done Guerrilla Games. Microsoft seriously has to step up their game now if they want to stay relevant.

Great score, really hope I can finish Nioh before this arrives.

Don't be so hard on PS fans just because their console is flopping.

Which Eurogamer is that from?

Stop. You need some new material. LOL

Eurogamer.net | Martin Robinson

Try to make sense when you troll :/

Reading some of the reviews has me raise an eyebrow. I don't want to fall for the shenanigans from overhyped reviews like I did for KZ. I have a very hard time believing GG can make a good game after their constant mediocrity, but hopefully they can prove me wrong here.

@Basinboy: thanks bud

Cant wait to get my copy.

Still debating on whether to get a Pro for this game and boost mode

@Basinboy: I've forgotten what our current wager was

An odd number hardware performance increase like 3X might yield extra head room when the game is scaled by 2X.

PS4 Pro's delta memory compression and delta compression aware 32 ROPS at 911 Mhz are sustaining about 2X over PS4's 32 ROPS at 800 Mhz and effective memory bandwidth which is up to 135 GB/s.

In terms of raw FLOPS, Scorpio is 3.26X over PS4. Scorpio is 1.43X over PS4 Pro.

In terms of ROPS, Scorpio is 1.43X over PS4 Pro i.e. 1300Mhz 32 ROPS vs 911 Mhz ROPS. This is for Scorpio's 36 CU at 1300Mhz ~= 6 TFLOPS setup. Not yet factoring Vega's Maxwell style tile cache rasterization nor 32 CU/32 ROPS at 1464 Mhz configuration.

In terms of effective memory bandwidth, Scorpio is at least 2.54X over PS4. Scorpio is at least 1.54X over PS4. Using scaled up Polaris parameters not using Vega's Maxwell style tile cache rasterization.

Each Scorpio advantage over PS4 Pro, reduces the render time.

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Using the following quote as a guide for render time impacts

http://gametransfers.com/direct-ports-from-ps4xbox-one-to-nintendo-switch-could-not-be-possible-according-to-former-ubisoft-developer/

Direct ports from PS4/Xbox One to Nintendo Switch could not be possible, according to former Ubisoft Developer

Sebastian Aaltonen, former senior rendering lead at Ubisoft and co-founder of Second Order LTD, wrote on the Beyond 3D forum that direct ports from the current consoles to Nintendo Switch may not be possible.

“Around 50% of modern game engine frame time goes to running compute shaders (lighting, post processing, AA, AO, reflections, etc). Maxwell’s tiled rasterizer has zero impact on compute shaders. 25.6 GB/s is pretty low as everybody knows that 68 GB/s of Xbox One isn’t that great either. ESRAM is needed to reach good performance. But I am talking about the POV of down porting current gen games to Switch. Switch certainly fares well against last gen consoles, and Maxwell’s tiled rasterizer would certainly help older pixel + vertex shader based renderers. Too bad last gen consoles already got their last big AAA releases year ago. Easy ports between Xbox 360 and Switch are not available anymore. Xbox One is a significantly faster hardware. Straightforward code port is not possible. Content also needs to be simplified,” Sebastian Aaltonen explained.

If 33 nm render time is targeted for 30 fps at the same resolution.

shader's 50 percent of 33 ms is 16.5 ms. Scorpio is 1.45X faster than PS4 Pro shader power, hence reducing shader component to 9 ms.

if ROPS takes 50 percent of 33 ms which is 16.5 ms, Scorpio is 1.45X faster than PS4 Pro in ROPS power, hence reducing ROPS component to 9 ms or 7.5 ms when ROPS is memory bandwidth bound i.e. Scorpio is 1.54X faster than PS4 Pro in memory bandwidth.

That's 18 ms or 16 ms. You need 16 ms for 60 fps.

This principle relates well when PS4 is at 60 fps while XBO is about 45 fps i.e. PS4's just has 1.39X shader advantage with both consoles are ROPS memory bandwidth bound. Shader compute/TMU is a workaround for XBO's 853 Mhz 16 ROPS.

Scorpio is more 1.42X faster PS4 Pro when memory bandwidth bound ROPS affects render time.

Great score. A bit sad it was Peter Brown reviewing it (still haven't forgiven him for his FM 16 review lol)

Does anyone actually care about this? Scorpio is coming.

They cared until it flopped.

@kudotsunodafan: I don't care about either of them.

I'm okay with the results, since I don't own a PS4 Pro, I'm still impress what I been seeing so far but until then, I probably won't notice any hiccups when I play the game.

@kvally: Why do I need a Pro? My launch PS4 is still alive and well, I'm not a big fan of upgraded consoles. If I wanted raw power, my PC will do that for me. My sweet GTX 1070 no less.

You don't need one. I was just bustin' your balls ;)

Good that it met, altough I can't take the Gamespot review serious.

This one is interesting:

Guerrilla Games goes open world in this sumptuous, enjoyable yet overly generic new age sci-fi RPG.

Horizon Zero Dawn is a work of considerable finesse and technical bravado, but it falls into the trap of past Guerrilla games in being all too forgettable. For all its skin-deep dynamism it lacks spark; somewhat like the robotic dinosaurs that stalk its arrestingly beautiful open world, this is a mimic that's all dazzle, steel and neon yet can feel like it's operating without a heart of its own.

Eurogamer

Nvm just saw that it's already been posted

Eurogamer is my go to source for reviews. It's my favorite.

Huh. I highly doubt it deserves a 9, but cool if it does.

What I don't get is, if she's a great female protagonist, then why are reviews so polarizing?

This one from US gamer for instance says she's bland:

USgamer "Feb 20, 201750Horizon Zero Dawn is disappointing. It has a story that I struggled to care about (complete with massive expository dumps—yay), a bland protagonist, and overtly repetitive and constraining missions that worked against its open world sensibilities. When Horizon Zero Dawn hit its rare strides—from its gloomy Cauldrons to traveling across its sprawling vistas—it only made me wish the rest of the game were as worthwhile."

Not saying she is that way because I haven't played it, but why do reviews contradict each other?