How can any of you still support Microsoft?

I mean, they charge you for playing online while others didn't!

If all 360 owners united as one and didn't paid, Microsoft surely will give free online for all 360 owners

It's obvious Microsoft didn't care about your fun when playing games, if so why the hell they charge you for playing online?

And yet lems still continue to support them, praise them, and angry if someone badmothed them

Tell me, how can any of you still support Microsoft? Are we really just stupid people that after we paid 60$ to buy COD we still got to pay more while PS3 and PC players didn't? Are 360 owners are just that dumb?

After all the money the make with online-fee, they still lack in exclusives....and yet you still support Microsoft? How can this be?

ihsanqueen

I've never heard these arguments before TC. You've blown my mind with your investigation into the seedy underbelly of Microsoft.

[spoiler] I can't wait to hear all the backpedaling next gen when Sony charges for online. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm not allowed to express my opinion now?

And no it's true, Halo and Gears and COD have crap campaigns. People only buy them for the MP, they only play the SP once and never touch it again. They arn't worth buying if you don't have XBL.

ShadowMoses900

No.

Stop trolling.

And I'm right. None of those games have good campaigns.

how is what you are saying any worse then when people say uncharted is a scripted movie and has no gameplay? I will say I think the uncharted comments are worse but none the less out of line when trying to use opinion to describe something.

Let me be the first to tell you I don't really like Halo, but being open minded let's me realize that other people may enjoy it, I personally can't stand Resistance 2, but I have seen someone on the board say it's their favorite MP game this gen. I can't put down his opinion because of mine...it's kind of false advertising because someone else might love that game you think is crappy and vice versa.

It is alot better to say that the campaigns weren't good according to your experience or standards.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You would be right,if you weren't wrong :|FireSpirit117

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

It's still wrong and you know it. :|

I thought Halo 3 had a crap campaign, not even worth replaying through. I'm right, sorry pal. You can enjoy playing a bad tacked on 5 hour campaign that everyone will forget about once it's done and just play MP.

If it's like Reach it might be good, but even then that one wasn't amazing. Only great Halo campaign was the orgional, the rest is just tacked on.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No.

Stop trolling.

And I'm right. None of those games have good campaigns.

ShadowMoses900

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

Because you stated it as fact.

You literally can't be that stupid :|

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Maybe you are wrong.:|

AtariKidX

No u. :|

How do you know that..??:|

Mind powers. It's all in my contract with Ol' Lucy. :|

how is what you are saying any worse then when people say uncharted is a scripted movie and has no gameplay?

casharmy

Man people who say this are dumb. I certainly think you can make an argument for it being too scripted and linear but a movie with no gameplay? What? There is literally no way someone who played it could think that.

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

ShadowMoses900

It's still wrong and you know it. :|

I thought Halo 3 had a crap campaign, not even worth replaying through. I'm right, sorry pal. You can enjoy playing a bad tacked on 5 hour campaign that everyone will forget about once it's done and just play MP.

If it's like Reach it might be good, but even then that one wasn't amazing. Only great Halo campaign was the orgional, the rest is just tacked on.

Halo 3 had a below-average campaign. Thank goodness its MP was so darn good.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You would be right,if you weren't wrong :|Kickinurass

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

Because you stated it as fact.

You literally can't be that stupid :|

Nothing on SW is a fact, it's all self explanitory that it's all opinion.

You literally can't be that stupid to not realise that.

And how many people lost the SW bet?

Halo 3 had a below-average campaign. Thank goodness its MP was so darn good.

Slashless

Oh No! You shouldn't say that, they don't like it when you express your opinion. They are going to attack you now because they live in a box where different opinions don't exist, and if they don't agree with their views then your wrong.

It's a shame that these people will later grow up to vote. I wish most people didn't vote, because most people arn't educated enough to understand issues.

hey don't like it when you express your opinion. ShadowMoses900

I'm expressing a fact Shadow.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No.

Stop trolling.

And I'm right. None of those games have good campaigns.

ShadowMoses900

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

ShadowMoses900

Because you stated it as fact.

You literally can't be that stupid :|

Nothing on SW is a fact, it's all self explanitory that it's all opinion.

You literally can't be that stupid to not realise that.

And how many people lost the SW bet?

Ignoring the fact that there are objective arguments on SW, that's a poor excuse considering you're claiming your right without any type of qualifiers and using your personal opinion to justify your agruments and trying to disregard the opinions of others at the same time.

There's a difference between stating your opinion and stating your opinion as fact which you seem not to be able to grasp. I didn't lose the bet, I just couldn't believe you were making such an idiot of yourself.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]hey don't like it when you express your opinion. Slashless

I'm expressing a fact Shadow.

Lol oh no you really did it now :P

And no what you said is opinion. Just like what I said. Even though I agree with you. Halo 3 had a bad campaign.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No.

Stop trolling.

And I'm right. None of those games have good campaigns.

ShadowMoses900

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Because you stated it as fact.

You literally can't be that stupid :|

Kickinurass

Nothing on SW is a fact, it's all self explanitory that it's all opinion.

You literally can't be that stupid to not realise that.

And how many people lost the SW bet?

Ignoring the fact that there are objective arguments on SW, that's a poor excuse considering you're claiming your right without any type of qualifiers and using your personal opinion to justify your agruments and trying to disregard the opinions of others at the same time.

There's a difference between stating your opinion and stating your opinion as fact which you seem not to be able to grasp. I didn't lose the bet, I just couldn't believe you were making such an idiot of yourself.

I said Halo3 had a bad campaign, that is an opinion. It's SW, you should know what an opinion is. Get outside of your moms box if you can't handle the real world where people express different opinions.

If I say "Blue is the best color" that is an opinion clearly, same goes for "Halo 3 has a dirt campagin" that is obviously an opinion. There is no surpreame judge who decides that is a fact, it's an obvious an opinion.

Why would I care about what your opinion of Halo 3 is? If you like it then good for you. I however hate the campaign, it's short, little variety, and it just felt like Halo 2.5. If that makes you butthurt too bad, grow up and learn that there are different opinions.

People call Uncharted a movie all the time on here, do I care? No. I just tell them I think they are wrong and move on.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You would be right,if you weren't wrong :|freedomfreak

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

You just gotta kinda except that anything someone says on SW is an opinion unless otherwise stated. Its a bit repetitive to write imo after every sentence.

No. I just tell them I think they are wrong and move on.

ShadowMoses900

I sort of gave up with Microsoft after the ridiculous pushing of the abhorrently bad Kinect, the price bump just to play the online component of games, and the third time my 360 broke.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You would be right,if you weren't wrong :|freedomfreak

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

Yes it is, that is clearly an opinion. I don't see the point of owning a Halo game without XBL, you paying $60 for a game that you can only play a portion of, and the campaign is probably going to be around 8 hours at the most and never touch it again. Why would someone pay full price for THAT?

Now the above is obviously an opinion. I shouldn't have to say "IMO" at the begginning of everything, it should be given it's an opinion. It's freakin' obvious. I can't believe I have to explain this to you guys.

And no what you said is opinion. ShadowMoses900

Nope, what I stated is fact, not opinion.

I'll give you an example so you'll be able to tell the difference.

Opinion: ShadowMoses is dumber than most SW posters.

Fact: Shadowmoses is dumb.

You're welcome, use what i've taught you in future posts.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

ActicEdge

You just gotta kinda except that anything someone says on SW is an opinion unless otherwise stated. Its a bit repetitive to write imo after every sentence.

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nothing on SW is a fact, it's all self explanitory that it's all opinion.

You literally can't be that stupid to not realise that.

And how many people lost the SW bet?

ShadowMoses900

Ignoring the fact that there are objective arguments on SW, that's a poor excuse considering you're claiming your right without any type of qualifiers and using your personal opinion to justify your agruments and trying to disregard the opinions of others at the same time.

There's a difference between stating your opinion and stating your opinion as fact which you seem not to be able to grasp. I didn't lose the bet, I just couldn't believe you were making such an idiot of yourself.

I said Halo3 had a bad campaign, that is an opinion. It's SW, you should know what an opinion is. Get outside of your moms box if you can't handle the real world where people express different opinions.

If I say "Blue is the best color" that is an opinion clearly, same goes for "Halo 3 has a dirt campagin" that is obviously an opinion. There is no surpreame judge who decides that is a fact, it's an obvious an opinion.

Why would I care about what your opinion of Halo 3 is? If you like it then good for you. I however hate the campaign, it's short, little variety, and it just felt like Halo 2.5. If that makes you butthurt too bad, grow up and learn that there are different opinions.

People call Uncharted a movie all the time on here, do I care? No. I just tell them I think they are wrong and move on.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's an opinion, how can it be wrong?

ShadowMoses900

Yes it is, that is clearly an opinion. I don't see the point of owning a Halo game without XBL, you paying $60 for a game that you can only play a portion of, and the campaign is probably going to be around 8 hours at the most and never touch it again. Why would someone pay full price for THAT?

Now the above is obviously an opinion. I shouldn't have to say "IMO" at the begginning of everything, it should be given it's an opinion. It's freakin' obvious. I can't believe I have to explain this to you guys.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And no what you said is opinion. Slashless

Nope, what I stated is fact, not opinion.

I'll give you an example so you'll be able to tell the difference.

Opinion: ShadowMoses is dumber than most SW posters.

Fact: Shadowmoses is dumb.

You're welcome, use what i've taught you in future posts.

Sounds like I rustled somone's jimmies in the past and are still butt hurt about it.

That means I win :cool:

That made my day, thanks :lol:

Now the above is obviously an opinion. I shouldn't have to say "IMO" at the begginning of everything, it should be given it's an opinion. It's freakin' obvious. I can't believe I have to explain this to you guys.

ShadowMoses900

You're getting overly angry about this crap. :|

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] The way you word it :| "You need XBL because the game's offline is worthless".freedomfreak

You just gotta kinda except that anything someone says on SW is an opinion unless otherwise stated. Its a bit repetitive to write imo after every sentence.

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

ActicEdge

I said Halo3 had a bad campaign, that is an opinion. It's SW, you should know what an opinion is. Get outside of your moms box if you can't handle the real world where people express different opinions.

If I say "Blue is the best color" that is an opinion clearly, same goes for "Halo 3 has a dirt campagin" that is obviously an opinion. There is no surpreame judge who decides that is a fact, it's an obvious an opinion.

Why would I care about what your opinion of Halo 3 is? If you like it then good for you. I however hate the campaign, it's short, little variety, and it just felt like Halo 2.5. If that makes you butthurt too bad, grow up and learn that there are different opinions.

People call Uncharted a movie all the time on here, do I care? No. I just tell them I think they are wrong and move on.

ShadowMoses900

What you said...

I thought Halo 3 had a crap campaign, not even worth replaying through.I'm right, sorry pal. You can enjoy playing a bad tacked on 5 hour campaign that everyone will forget about once it's done and just play MP.

If it's like Reach it might be good, but even then that one wasn't amazing. Only great Halo campaign was the orgional, the rest is just tacked on.

ShadowMoses900

That is an opinion stated as opinion. That is an opinion stated as fact. The last sentence could go either way, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I think Halo 3 campaign was pretty poor myself. From experience, it had some highs, alot of lows and one level I absolutely despised. But this has nothing to do with what I think of Halo 3, I didn't even mention Halo 3. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks of Halo 3. Why did you even bring up Halo 3?:| I just think your attempt to hide behind your opinion after stating it as fact is lolworthy.

You want to use your opinion as fact? Then prepare to have it torn down. Or else, learn how to tailor your responses so that what you type is what you mean.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] The way you word it :| "You need XBL because the game's offline is worthless".freedomfreak

Yes it is, that is clearly an opinion. I don't see the point of owning a Halo game without XBL, you paying $60 for a game that you can only play a portion of, and the campaign is probably going to be around 8 hours at the most and never touch it again. Why would someone pay full price for THAT?

Now the above is obviously an opinion. I shouldn't have to say "IMO" at the begginning of everything, it should be given it's an opinion. It's freakin' obvious. I can't believe I have to explain this to you guys.

Word what right? I think you guys are just being a bunch of b!tches and trying to gang up on me for no stupid reason. TC said a lot of opinions in his OP, he didn't right "IMO" he just stated them, and none of you guys attacked him for it.

It's obvious it was an opinion, it's just common sense. If you can't handle it then don't go outside, you'll never make it in the real world. The other day some guy told me God doesn't exist, now I'm a spiritual person who believes in God but did I freak out about it?

No. I just clearly moved on and got on with my life because he was expressing HIS opinion, which it clearly was. An opinion he has EVERY RIGHT to express. Doesn't matter how he words it, it's obvious an opinion.

Bah all this is pointless, you guys arn't worth the time to explain it. I wish you all the best of luck, no hard feelings on my part. This thread is completely stupid now. For future refrence, SW is 99% opinion. There are little facts here.

Sounds like I rustled somone's jimmies in the past and are still butt hurt about it.

ShadowMoses900

loljk You couldn't rustle the jimmies of a lack-of-oil Tinman, let alone mine.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

freedomfreak

SW is all stupid stuff :|

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

ActicEdge

SW is all stupid stuff :|

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

ActicEdge

I just like to troll the trolls from time to time. :P Alot of people on SW do this so I could have done it to anyone, but ShadowMoses is probably the most fun to egg on.

*need muh meds*

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]
I should.

Maybe I'm tired of reading stupid stuff :|

freedomfreak

SW is all stupid stuff :|

Can't argue with that. (I bet the emoticon after everything sucks :P )

lmao video games and objectivity. funny sh1t

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

Kickinurass

I just like to troll the trolls from time to time. :P Alot of people on SW do this so I could have done it to anyone, but ShadowMoses is probably the most fun to egg on.

He's excellent at trolling people.

Same way no one ruffles PS3 fans like stevo.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

SW is all stupid stuff :|

ActicEdge

Can't argue with that. (I bet the emoticon after everything sucks :P )

:|.... I think it's funny.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Some things more stupid than others. I have a certain limit :|FireSpirit117

Can't argue with that. (I bet the emoticon after everything sucks :P )

:|.... I think it's funny.

Some things more stupid than others. I have a certain limit :|freedomfreak

Been wondering what bet did you lose?

EDIT: Nevermind about the second question, saw you posted the end date.

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Can't argue with that. (I bet the emoticon after everything sucks :P )

freedomfreak

:|.... I think it's funny.

Haha that's good :P

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Some things more stupid than others. I have a certain limit :|Kickinurass

Been wondering what bet did you lose and how much longer do you have to suffer?

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Can't argue with that. (I bet the emoticon after everything sucks :P )

freedomfreak

:|.... I think it's funny.

Only to end up sporting a homoerotic sig/avy the next day. :3

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

:|.... I think it's funny.

Slashless

Only to end up sporting a homoerotic sig/avy the next day. :3

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Agreed. For reference, that 4$ a month saved in say like my country of origin is 2 days of work money. I'm sure he didn't mean it but that to me is just someone with a terrible concept of money and saving.

ActicEdge

Well I don't live there now, orign country not where I am currntly staying. I'm saying that your tone reeks of someone who doesn;t actually have an appreciation of money or how hard some people have to work to make 4 bucks. I do which is why I don't throw away my money and use terrible justifications like "its only 4 bucks a month, you can't afford it" as an excuse to give worth to anything. Its horrible reasoning, you can spend your money how you want, I never said do things my way or else. I said your prick like tone is indicative of someone who really has no concept of money.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I said Halo3 had a bad campaign, that is an opinion. It's SW, you should know what an opinion is. Get outside of your moms box if you can't handle the real world where people express different opinions.

If I say "Blue is the best color" that is an opinion clearly, same goes for "Halo 3 has a dirt campagin" that is obviously an opinion. There is no surpreame judge who decides that is a fact, it's an obvious an opinion.

Why would I care about what your opinion of Halo 3 is? If you like it then good for you. I however hate the campaign, it's short, little variety, and it just felt like Halo 2.5. If that makes you butthurt too bad, grow up and learn that there are different opinions.

People call Uncharted a movie all the time on here, do I care? No. I just tell them I think they are wrong and move on.

Kickinurass

What you said...

I thought Halo 3 had a crap campaign, not even worth replaying through.I'm right, sorry pal. You can enjoy playing a bad tacked on 5 hour campaign that everyone will forget about once it's done and just play MP.

If it's like Reach it might be good, but even then that one wasn't amazing. Only great Halo campaign was the orgional, the rest is just tacked on.

ShadowMoses900

That is an opinion stated as opinion. That is an opinion stated as fact. The last sentence could go either way, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I think Halo 3 campaign was pretty poor myself. From experience, it had some highs, alot of lows and one level I absolutely despised. But this has nothing to do with what I think of Halo 3, I didn't even mention Halo 3. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks of Halo 3. Why did you even bring up Halo 3?:| I just think your attempt to hide behind your opinion after stating it as fact is lolworthy.

You want to use your opinion as fact? Then prepare to have it torn down. Or else, learn how to tailor your responses so that what you type is what you mean.

It's an opinion that I expressed as an opinion. Want to hear another one? "US Health Care sucks" How about another one? "Halo 3's campaign sucks" Yep some good opinions there.

You remind me of the PC police, it's known as politcal correctness. These are people who get SO offended over any little thing that one expresses. You can't say that, you have to say this instead. It's just another version of censorship. Taking away my 1st amendment God given RIGHT to express myself. And I hate it.

Here is a fact for ya "I have the right to express my opinion how I deem fit, and if it upsets you then stop being a pvssy and grow some balls".

This is America I can say what I want, my ancestors didn't immigrate here from fleeing the oppression in Europe and joined the US Army to fight the Nazis so my freedom of speech can be censored by some moron on the internet.

I have no hard feellings toward any of you. But this policitical correctness and telling people they can't express an OBVIOUS opinion is just wrong.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Shadow is good at ruffling some feathers. Just assume its all opinion, you'll save yourself some trouble :P

Kickinurass

I just like to troll the trolls from time to time. :P Alot of people on SW do this so I could have done it to anyone, but ShadowMoses is probably the most fun to egg on.

Case in point: :P

It's an opinion that I expressed as an opinion. Want to hear another one? "US Health Care sucks" How about another one? "Halo 3's campaign sucks" Yep some good opinions there.

You remind me of the PC police, it's known as politcal correctness. These are people who get SO offended over any little thing that one expresses. You can't say that, you have to say this instead. It's just another version of censorship. Taking away my 1st amendment God given RIGHT to express myself. And I hate it.

Here is a fact for ya "I have the right to express my opinion how I deem fit, and if it upsets you then stop being a pvssy and grow some balls".

This is America I can say what I want, my ancestors didn't immigrate here from fleeing the oppression in Europe and joined the US Army to fight the Nazis so my freedom of speech can be censored by some moron on the internet.

I have no hard feellings toward any of you. But this policitical correctness and telling people they can't express an OBVIOUS opinion is just wrong.

ShadowMoses900

Calm down man, I already admitted I was only doing it to troll you. I've had my fun already - I'm done with all that.