How can ANYONE in their right mind say that Wii is better than PC?!?!

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

[QUOTE="WinterKIngRe4"]

Name me a game on the WIi that can't be bested on the PC?

Drulx

Zack & Wiki couldn't be done on PC because of the controls... Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

Really? Maybe you should play it...

And WRPGs, Racing, Fight Sims, MMORPGs, Adventure, Hack n' Slash, Strategy, Music games etc. The PC has one of the most diverse library of games, it's just that people don't seem to remember this, probably because it takes one more argument away from their already low "PC hating" stockpile of arguments.

steve17989

WRPG's and MMO's are not going to appeal to everbody, and the appeal of flight sims could best be described as niche. Outside of the realm of casual sports titles, the PC is an uninviting platform and there is little wonder that so many gamers opt for RPG's that are user-friendly and don't demand hours of tedious micromanaging, racers that are actually fun to play and, gosh forbid, multiplayer that you can enjoy with REAL friends.

Really? Maybe you should play it...

goblaa

So maybe you should've answered my question instead of jumping to conclusions.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

[QUOTE="WinterKIngRe4"]

Name me a game on the WIi that can't be bested on the PC?

Drulx

Zack & Wiki couldn't be done on PC because of the controls... Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

3D movement. For example - you have a jugsaw puzzle to solve.A piece is in your hand. You can rotate the Wiimote to rotate the piece and then push the Wiimote forward to insert it into the puzzle.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Really? Maybe you should play it...

Drulx

So maybe you should've answered my question instead of jumping to conclusions.

Well a mouse has no shake or tilt, so you couldn't pick things up to examine them or play with them. Zack and wiki is about 50% pointer and 50% waggle. It's all about picking objects up and messing with them to solve puzzles in a point and click adventure setting.

[QUOTE="steve17989"]

And WRPGs, Racing, Fight Sims, MMORPGs, Adventure, Hack n' Slash, Strategy, Music games etc. The PC has one of the most diverse library of games, it's just that people don't seem to remember this, probably because it takes one more argument away from their already low "PC hating" stockpile of arguments.

Menalque2

WRPG's and MMO's are not going to appeal to everbody, and the appeal of flight sims could best be described as niche. Outside of the realm of casual sports titles, the PC is an uninviting platform and there is little wonder that so many gamers opt for RPG's that are user-friendly and don't demand hours of tedious micromanaging, racers that are actually fun to play and, gosh forbid, multiplayer that you can enjoy with REAL friends.

You said that the PC library was limited to Shooters and RTS's, I disagreed by naming other genres that are found on the PC. Some are more popular than others, all contain great games. You don't have to scrutinize those genres just because of your preferences. My point still stands.

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Himly"]

to be honest, that list is full of low quality titles that are mostly unheard of. with the wii the exclusives are well made and guranteed to be bugfree and fun, unlike the majority of games on that list. quality>>>>quantity.

Himly

many games on that list are low quality and only appeal to a small niche of people. the few good high quality ones get exclipsed by the wii exclusive games. that's why i've been saying the wii has better 2009 games. as i said before quality>>>>quantity

[QUOTE="WinterKIngRe4"]

Name me a game on the WIi that can't be bested on the PC?

manicfoot

Zack & Wiki couldn't be done on PC because of the controls... Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

They probably couldn't afford a PC, PS3, or 360 so they resorted to a Wii.Messiahbolical-

Or maybe they actually like the Wii and have a different opinion than you?

PC doesn't have enough genres to satisfy mii.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

[QUOTE="WinterKIngRe4"]

Name me a game on the WIi that can't be bested on the PC?

skrat_01

Zack & Wiki couldn't be done on PC because of the controls... Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

He didn't ask if it could be replicated on the PC, he asked if it could be bested.

Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

manicfoot

Having both versions, I still prefer the mouse. Either way, due to this website, you can guess what version I've been playing.

because wii is better then pc - No its not

and quite frankly nintendo has always been better then pc lol

always - No is hasnt.

the last great pc game i knew of was duke nukem 3d and half life series, their all siad and done and also doom is on snes xbox360 n64 dn is on 360 n64 ps1 gba - Doom started on the PC, Duke Nukem started on PC.

half life 2 on the xbox the 360 and ps3 - Started and is proven to be better on the PC

other then crysis what does pc have besides the overload of diner dash , , , , lol - Have you played it? I think not.

that the consoles cant get lol

it isnt only the wii that has pc beat the ps3 and 360 do to so does ps2 , - Multiplats are better on PC.

psp and ds - Handhelds dont count.

pc is dead since 2007 - $11Billion mean nothing to you. EA says that PC gaming is now the biggest platform or something along this lines

l ook at the pc isle in most stores heres what youll find - sims sims sims and more sims , then crysis

and gta iv . cod4 there i just listed the whole walmart pc isle for games lol - Open your eyes dude, they're are loads of PC game avaible at retail. Plus tons more on DD and Steam. Thats including user created content and mods.

mariokart64fan

3D movement. For example - you have a jugsaw puzzle to solve.A piece is in your hand. You can rotate the Wiimote to rotate the piece and then push the Wiimote forward to insert it into the puzzle.

manicfoot

What I want to know is what the Wii can do that a computer can't possibly do? Like tennis in Wii Sports -- you can't technically accomplish the same thing on a computer, unless you had a peripheral equivalent to the Wiimote.

Well, i was speaking to some kids at school and about 80% said that the Wii had better games. Now can anyone tell me how it is true? they said that 'its better beacuse it focuses on family content.' Now can someone PLEASE explain how these people call them selves 'GAMERS?' oh and when i mentioned a game likeHalf life or Call of Duty 4, they would all say 'they are crap' LOL

-PSfanboy101

PSfanboy101

has no shake or tilt, so you couldn't pick things up to examine them or play with them. Zack and wiki is about 50% pointer and 50% waggle. It's all about picking objects up and messing with them to solve puzzles in a point and click adventure setting.

goblaa

if you ask me the TC is just telling stories ;)

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

3D movement. For example - you have a jugsaw puzzle to solve.A piece is in your hand. You can rotate the Wiimote to rotate the piece and then push the Wiimote forward to insert it into the puzzle.

Drulx

What I want to know is what the Wii can do that a computer can't possibly do?

well.. nothing. Computers are used to MAKE wii games. But that wasn't what you asked, you wanted to know what wii games coulnd't be bested on PC. And even though you could rotate objects with a mouse, you still have no depth of field. That and ringing wiki by waving you mouse around will just feel wierd.

At the end of the day, even though you could "replicate" zack and wiki on the PC, it's just going feel inferior.

Some people like to waggle; some people like to mouse - each to their own I guess.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

[QUOTE="WinterKIngRe4"]

Name me a game on the WIi that can't be bested on the PC?

Drulx

Zack & Wiki couldn't be done on PC because of the controls... Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

well.. nothing. Computers are used to MAKE wii games. But that wasn't what you asked, you wanted to know what wii games coulnd't be bested on PC.goblaa

And even though you could rotate objects with a mouse, you still have no depth of field. That and ringing wiki by waving you mouse around will just feel wierd.goblaa

At the end of the day, even though you could "replicate" zack and wiki on the PC, it's just going feel inferior.goblaa

Video games aren't about feelings, son.

Ah my mistake, the guy asking about "bested" wasn't you. You were just defending him. My bad.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="manicfoot"]

Zack & Wiki couldn't be done on PC because of the controls... Also, I prefer the Wii version of World of Goo because it feels more interactive.

goblaa

He didn't ask if it could be replicated on the PC, he asked if it could be bested.

[QUOTE="Drulx"]

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

3D movement. For example - you have a jugsaw puzzle to solve.A piece is in your hand. You can rotate the Wiimote to rotate the piece and then push the Wiimote forward to insert it into the puzzle.

goblaa

What I want to know is what the Wii can do that a computer can't possibly do?

well.. nothing. Computers are used to MAKE wii games. But that wasn't what you asked, you wanted to know what wii games coulnd't be bested on PC. And even though you could rotate objects with a mouse, you still have no depth of field. That and ringing wiki by waving you mouse around will just feel wierd.

At the end of the day, even though you could "replicate" zack and wiki on the PC, it's just going feel inferior.

Because the vast majority of us dont want to sit like a hermit 12" from a PC monitor going...click, click, click, click, wswswawswd, space, space, cc,wasd,wsad,r,c,r,click, click, click, click.........

I dont want to have to spend an afternoon waiting for my game to install or download constant patches and updates, nor do I enjoy having to memorize 27 different keys that somehow, someway get mapped to 12 buttons or triggers on a console.

The Wii is a very fun console as a compliment to a 360 or PS3. On its own, it isn't what I would use to satisfy my gaming urges, but unless you are playing a MMO, RTS or some sort of sim, it is much better than PC.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Drulx"]

What I want to know is what the Wii can do that a computer can't possibly do?

skrat_01

well.. nothing. Computers are used to MAKE wii games. But that wasn't what you asked, you wanted to know what wii games coulnd't be bested on PC. And even though you could rotate objects with a mouse, you still have no depth of field. That and ringing wiki by waving you mouse around will just feel wierd.

At the end of the day, even though you could "replicate" zack and wiki on the PC, it's just going feel inferior.

Well, there's liitle that couldn't be translated to wii. The only one that couldn't for sure is an MMO. The wiimote it's really set-up for a great RTS and it's sad that RTS games are made mostly by western devs who shun the wii. Also, if we want to get stupid technical, the Wii does have full keyboard support. :P

Click, click, click, click, waggle, click, click, click, waggle, click.

Wait, I know what that is! Video games!

Input repetition is inherent to video games as a whole. Perhaps you didn't think of that before posting,NemeSyS-1,but that's okay: thinking is not a requirement for an effective argu -- wait, sorry. Scratch that. I wasn't thinking.

I dont want to have to spend an afternoon waiting for my game to install or download constant patches and updates, nor do I enjoy having to memorize 27 different keys that somehow, someway get mapped to 12 buttons or triggers on a console. NemeSyS-1

Most people don't want spend their afternoons waiting for a game to install or for patches to download, either. Luckily, that's never been the case for most people. When a PC control scheme is "magically" mapped to 12 buttons on a controller, that's because it's been dumbed-down or inefficiently consolidated. I hope you're okay with that.

There's more to PC games than MMOs, RTSes, and sims, y'know.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

well.. nothing. Computers are used to MAKE wii games. But that wasn't what you asked, you wanted to know what wii games coulnd't be bested on PC. And even though you could rotate objects with a mouse, you still have no depth of field. That and ringing wiki by waving you mouse around will just feel wierd.

At the end of the day, even though you could "replicate" zack and wiki on the PC, it's just going feel inferior.

goblaa

Well, there's liitle that couldn't be translated to wii. The only one that couldn't for sure is an MMO. The wiimote it's really set-up for a great RTS and it's sad that RTS games are made mostly by western devs who shun the wii. Also, if we want to get stupid technical, the Wii does have full keyboard support. :P

For People who rarely play games:Wii >PC

For People who play games: PC>Wii

Who cares? Why do some posters on SW get offended so easily by someone else's opinion? :|

With that said, I think the PC is leagues better than the Wii.

Welcome to the real world, where people have different opinions. :roll:

many games on that list are low quality and only appeal to a small niche of people. the few good high quality ones get exclipsed by the wii exclusive games. that's why i've been saying the wii has better 2009 games. as i said before quality>>>>quantity

Himly

EDIT also sheep remember that scores for the Wii =/= scores for the PC, they are judged in an entirely different class.

I know right? How can anyone in their right mind have a differing opinion than you?

at least the wii has some worthwhile exclusives coming out this year. what does the pc have? all pc gamers do is talk about crysis, since there has been a pc game drought since 2007.

Himly

take a look at the pc list and then the wii list.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

what drought?

Some gaming is better on the Wii than the PC. I really enjoy rail shooters and for me that is what the Wii is best at.

In addition, my house isn't setup so that many people can crowd around the PC. Wii is great for party games, and PC just doesn't have enough variety for four player + games like the Wii does. Plus my TV is way bigger than my PC monitor.

Plus I really like FPS on Wii's when done well.

But some PC gaming is superior. I can't imagine playing an RTS game on a console. Everyone console RTS I played I felt hampered, and even though I said FPS can be great on Wii, on PC it's still most preferable.

The question shouldn't be why would somone say Wii game is better than PC, I still think a better argument would be why would somone buy a 360/PS3 over a PC?

Currently, the wii is an absolute joke, I preordered my wii 1st day it was possible (skipped school to make sure I got one), and haven't played it hardly at all. I have 4 games for it, of which I have only beaten 1 because of framerate issues with cod3, extreme bordom/monotony with zelda, and poor level design with rayman, During this same time, I have bought close to 30 pc games probably, such as GRID, Crysis, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout 3, COD4, Brothers in Arms: HH, Company of Heroes, Mount and Blade, L4D, Empire: Total War, Mass Effect etc. I keep getting hits after hits for the pc, have very few problems (much fewer technical problems than I have had on the wii, especially with framerates), the graphics and controls are far superior (mouse/keyboard for shooters, rts, rpg, gamepad for racers) the fact is that the wii's best game is still a launch title, I can count the number of games I would consider buying on 1 hand, and there is only 1 decent looking shooter on the horizon, the conduit(which I fully plan on buying), the reason you haven't heard of any of these games is because most of the good games aren't on the wii because they just can't run because of its pitiful cpu, ram, and gpu. The wii tech is a joke, and until I see some more Fire Emblem, F-Zero, or a good Zelda, it will remain in the off position 2 inches from the monitor I am currently looking at. The Wii simply does not have good games because it cannot handle them, this isn't a graphics vs gameplay issue, it's a power issue, you can keep Mario, Ill have some more Total War

Currently, the wii is an absolute joke, I preordered my wii 1st day it was possible (skipped school to make sure I got one), and haven't played it hardly at all. I have 4 games for it, of which I have only beaten 1 because of framerate issues with cod3, extreme bordom/monotony with zelda, and poor level design with rayman, During this same time, I have bought close to 30 pc games probably, such as GRID, Crysis, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout 3, COD4, Brothers in Arms: HH, Company of Heroes, Mount and Blade, L4D, Empire: Total War, Mass Effect etc. I keep getting hits after hits for the pc, have very few problems (much fewer technical problems than I have had on the wii, especially with framerates), the graphics and controls are far superior (mouse/keyboard for shooters, rts, rpg, gamepad for racers) the fact is that the wii's best game is still a launch title, I can count the number of games I would consider buying on 1 hand, and there is only 1 decent looking shooter on the horizon, the conduit(which I fully plan on buying), the reason you haven't heard of any of these games is because most of the good games aren't on the wii because they just can't run because of its pitiful cpu, ram, and gpu. The wii tech is a joke, and until I see some more Fire Emblem, F-Zero, or a good Zelda, it will remain in the off position 2 inches from the monitor I am currently looking at. The Wii simply does not have good games because it cannot handle them, this isn't a graphics vs gameplay issue, it's a power issue, you can keep Mario, Ill have some more Total War

bachilders

what ?

you should read you own text again !

Some gaming is better on the Wii than the PC. I really enjoy rail shooters and for me that is what the Wii is best at.

In addition, my house isn't setup so that many people can crowd around the PC. Wii is great for party games, and PC just doesn't have enough variety for four player + games like the Wii does. Plus my TV is way bigger than my PC monitor.

Plus I really like FPS on Wii's when done well.

But some PC gaming is superior. I can't imagine playing an RTS game on a console. Everyone console RTS I played I felt hampered, and even though I said FPS can be great on Wii, on PC it's still most preferable.

The question shouldn't be why would somone say Wii game is better than PC, I still think a better argument would be why would somone buy a 360/PS3 over a PC?

flazzle

there is no reason you can't put your pc on the tv, my friend has his pc on a 65" dlp at 1080p and it works great

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Some gaming is better on the Wii than the PC. I really enjoy rail shooters and for me that is what the Wii is best at.

In addition, my house isn't setup so that many people can crowd around the PC. Wii is great for party games, and PC just doesn't have enough variety for four player + games like the Wii does. Plus my TV is way bigger than my PC monitor.

Plus I really like FPS on Wii's when done well.

But some PC gaming is superior. I can't imagine playing an RTS game on a console. Everyone console RTS I played I felt hampered, and even though I said FPS can be great on Wii, on PC it's still most preferable.

The question shouldn't be why would somone say Wii game is better than PC, I still think a better argument would be why would somone buy a 360/PS3 over a PC?

bachilders

there is no reason you can't put your pc on the tv, my friend has his pc on a 65" dlp at 1080p and it works great

i don't have a TV that big, and are there really that many good PC games that 4 people can play at the same time? Maybe there are, I don't know.