How Can anyone like the Wii?

"Welcome to the opening of summer folks. This year we have a game drought hovering just North or reality. Expect high winds and few games. This year it may be a little more dry than usual because it's withing the first half year of launch. Many times it takes longer for the stronger games to move South and into the area. The system needs to develop and the games need to form before we'll see any activity. We may see this trend continue as this takes roughly a year to two years for this to happen. Hang in there. Back to you Jim."

"Thank you. And that was Bob with the weather."

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck.

 

WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT SONIC ?!?and comparions between systems ?!? OVER SONIC ? 

Thats just a horrible list...seriously.

wavebrid

How is that a horrible list? Also I see nothing "kiddy" about those games

tbh tht is a pretty horrible list. ive played most of them n they r pretty repetitive. 2 say theres nothing 'kiddy' about them is stupid

last time i check E =everyone t=teen ec=early child i dont see any with ec :| so there not kiddie.

than how come sonic and serect rings scored better than xbox and ps3 version ..... madden was the best on wii rayman set a good game for wii as well.... and those three games except for sonic and serect rings are on ps3 360....

which verison is better thats RIGHT Wii verison

How can anyone enjoy poker?

The graphics are terrible! Where's the blood!?

Man, Hoyle had better come with something new for 2008 or I don't see how this is going to last.

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck.

Thats just a horrible list...seriously.

wavebrid

How is that a horrible list? Also I see nothing "kiddy" about those games

tbh tht is a pretty horrible list. ive played most of them n they r pretty repetitive. 2 say theres nothing 'kiddy' about them is stupid

last time i check E =everyone t=teen ec=early child i dont see any with ec :| so there not kiddie.

than how come sonic and serect rings scored better than xbox and ps3 version ..... madden was the best on wii rayman set a good game for wii as well.... and those three games except for sonic and serect rings are on ps3 360....

which verison is better thats RIGHT Wii verison

sonic n the secret rings still only got a 7.6 n 7.1 from the press. madden is a game 4 noobs n im in uk so early child dusnt exist. rated 3+ here, id say thts kiddie

well like you oh yea thats what i thought. and prove about your ratings.

you know what 7.6 means? i doubt it good

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&tag=search%3Bbutton&om_act=convert&om_clk=search&qs=sonic+and+serect+rings&x=57&y=10

now look down look at the rating for someone who wants to buy it it says E=EVERYONE

The irony here is that last generation, Nintendo fans called Xbox fans "fps addicts" and "sports gaming jocks" - and quite a few worse things - your basic opinion of Xbox gamers was that we spent all our time at keggers, playing madden, and were "total noobs"

Now, this generation, I see Nintendo fans *defending* games like Madden, and talking about how "the Wii is great at parties" - and how their friends love to play Wii and have a couple of drinks... interesting. The hyporcisy is sickening.

As far as the TC is concerned, people want a Wii because they want a Wii. They play the system, they say "I like this, it's kind of cool" and then they buy it. It's a system built for the masses, and I'm guessing, people who don't mind if they don't game for a couple of weeks.

Personally, I feel the $250 price tag has a lot to do with why the Wii is doing so well (more people in the real world are appalled at the $400+ price tag of the competition) but there's still the attraction of the system to make it sell in the first place - and the public perceptions surrounding the Wii.
subrosian

Don't all fanboys do that? Last gen lemmings were going on about how sales didn't matter, and now the PS3 is a failure because it's not in first place.

You can't really insult another type of fanboy for being inconsistent and ignorant because it's a two sided sword. 

What the hell is your idea of a game that isn't "Kiddy Trash"?; as you seem to think Zelda, Mario, Trauma Center and many other Wii games are.

And please don't start drivling on about FPS'sand GTA's. I'm not the only one who's getting extremely bored with them.

That's all anyone seems to be really interested in for the PS3 and the 360.

The Wii is a chance for something diffarent.

I just got a PS3, and to be honest, NOTHING on it has really excited me so far.

And I'm not  a nintendo Fanboy either. My last console was the original Xbox.

 But I can really appreciate what Nintendo are doing with games and I've loved alot of what I've played on the Wii.

You really just sound like some closed-minded little kid 

Honestly how? Yes i know its fasinating and exciting to experience a New controller and somwhat unique way to play games...but How does that last? expecially with the shocking list of Wii titles which is more kiddy/anim than anything else. The only Game i really want a wii for is Metroid Prime 3 corruptions...The rest are rushed and ugly games just made to quickly add the new controls. And Since Nintendo have lost the RE series basically, since the cube. Theres know reason to really get excited for one, IMO. and to add if more bad news to that...the Hardware is real outdated. So you can't fall back on visuals. I really expect so much more from Nintendo..when they announced the wii..but seeing nothing but rushed kiddy titles just focused around the controller, makes me wanna puke.

Lets not forget Online, I'm not much of an online gamer but i enjoy downloadable content/demos etc...Nintendos online is still a mess and they still avoid the whole concept of it. I loved nintendo in the old days with Snes/n64 but somehow they have lost it...most likely since the competition is just over powering...and probably know they counldn't stand the chance and losses involved..since both MS and SONY have other devision to rely on for prohit. But still, More could of been done.

I seriously hope nintendo does something about its 3rd party and overall more games in general in terms of variety...and more MATURE TITLES. Yes i know i'm whining and complaining..but doesn't this annoy sheep? 

 

Thoughts? 

-Maddog-

It's a great console if you've completely floored your standards, ignore the quality of hardware, ignore its price to performance ratio, enjoy painfully childish and simple games, love ancient 20 year old franchises, and expect video games to provide only the most basic, shallow, and pointless forms of entertainment.

Nintendo fans can like the Wii because they've completely butchered how we judge and value video games to continue their support for a console that is clearly obsolete and sold by the most dubious and anti-gamer means possible.

My problem is complicated by the fact that Wii is working against the best intrests of consumers in this industry, lowering the expectations of consumers, and destroying the validity of gaming as a respectable entertainment medium.

I'm simply too critical to use the base and simple entertainment I might recieve from a Wiisports games as a benchmark that justifies the existence, quality, and potential of a "next-gen" console.  You like Wiisports and SPM?  Great. 

Does it make Wii a good console?  No.  Does it mean that Wii is working to advance the industry and the entertainment medium of gaming? No.  Is it fair to praise these products in such a high and valuble light when they cater to the lowest expectations and desires we all have?  No.  Does the Wii provide cutting-edge hardware at a fair price?  No.  Does the Wii encorporate and embrace gaming as a valid and broad entertainment medium? No.  Does the Wii encourage third party development and exceed the demands of consumers?  No.

We all know what good is for this industry from the perspective of consumers.  We've always known:  stronger hardware, cheaper prices, more developers, more intellectual freedom, more innovation, newer and bolder ideas, greater functionality, more depth, more game for your dollar.  I don't exactly need to look into a crystal ball and evoke a druidish chant to scrye what is good for us.  Nintendo has forced many of its fans to reorder, forget, or denounce these very functional, positive, and historically important values to rationalize their support for a product that works against their interests, fails to meet the benchmarks of this generation, and has butchered the functionality and scope of gaming as an entertainment medium.

The games on the Wii are some of the most uninspiring, comercially driven, and reptitive trash out on the market.  The ideas are so old, or so vague, naieve, or shallow, that they literally make me sick after 2-3 minutes of gameplay.

blah blah gimmick blah blah blah kiddy blah kiddy blah blah kiddy blah blah bad graphics blah blah kiddy

That's the gist of your argument. Originality points for you :)

Trauma Center isn't kiddy, it's one of the hardest games I have ever played. Games don't need to be M rated to be hard or tough.

The games on the Wii are some of the most uninspiring, comercially driven, and reptitive trash out on the market.  The ideas are so old, or so vague, naieve, or shallow, that they literally make me sick after 2-3 minutes of gameplay.

FoamingPanda

Name 5 blockbuster titles on the 360 or PS3 that aren't just rehashes of old ideas, then explain to me how WarioWare is commercial and 'repetitive'.

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck.

Thats just a horrible list...seriously.

Jandurin

How is that a horrible list? Also I see nothing "kiddy" about those games

tbh tht is a pretty horrible list. ive played most of them n they r pretty repetitive. 2 say theres nothing 'kiddy' about them is stupid

Come on, people. What the heck even defines "kiddy"? There is no definition of it, it's all a misconception.

I'm 21 and I love Mario, Sonic, Monkey Ball, Rayman, etc. I'm buying a DS, which is supposedly about as "kiddy" as modern consoles get. And I'm going to love the heck out of it. In fact, I don't know a person here at college who thinks Mario is "kiddy". My friends and I probably play Mario Kart: Double Dash and Super Smash Bros. more than any other game. You insecure 14-year olds need to learn about the reality of this situation.

"Kiddy" means nothing. All "kiddy" means is if you don't like it, it's because either the game it's not your thing, or you're too insecure to get over your misconceptions and learn to like it. To give an all-encompassing category to games because of that is ignorant.

This kiddy argument never fails to amuse me. Yes, some games are literally made for kids. Every system has these. Just because a game looks childish doesn't mean enjoying it is faux pas. Gears of War has realistic 3d graphics, blood, gore, big hulking dudes with big ass guns. And yet, what's mature about hacking someone to pieces with a chainsaw rifle?

[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

The games on the Wii are some of the most uninspiring, comercially driven, and reptitive trash out on the market. The ideas are so old, or so vague, naieve, or shallow, that they literally make me sick after 2-3 minutes of gameplay.

sps9

Name 5 blockbuster titles on the 360 or PS3 that aren't just rehashes of old ideas, then explain to me how WarioWare is commercial and 'repetitive'.

You're new so let me explain - Foaming Panda isn't a 360, PS3, PC, or Wii fan in particular - in fact, he's not a fan of the industry *period*, any conversation with him is sure to end in a depressing spiel on the industry. Games only really experience evolution, not revolutions, and the fact that there hasn't been a *revolution* that turns gaming into literature has FP, well, foaming at the mouth.

This kiddy argument never fails to amuse me. Yes, some games are literally made for kids. Every system has these. Just because a game looks childish doesn't mean enjoying it is faux pas. Gears of War has realistic 3d graphics, blood, gore, big hulking dudes with big ass guns. And yet, what's mature about hacking someone to pieces with a chainsaw rifle?

Overthrow

When are people going to learn that "E" is for everyone and "eC" is for kids? *sigh*

Anyway.... If you don't like the Wii, that's fine. Luckily for you there are other choices to satisfy your gaming needs. Just don't be dissing people because they like something you don't like, otherwise you will be just as immature as the games you claim to abhor.

This kiddy argument never fails to amuse me. Yes, some games are literally made for kids. Every system has these. Just because a game looks childish doesn't mean enjoying it is faux pas. Gears of War has realistic 3d graphics, blood, gore, big hulking dudes with big ass guns. And yet, what's mature about hacking someone to pieces with a chainsaw rifle?

Overthrow

Well... the content would be mature, for one, hence the big 'ol "M" on the box. We might have gotten pretty crass as a society, but "guy getting cut in half with a chainsaw" is not a-okay for a ten year old audience.

Gears of War is a mature game - it has complex gameplay, requires teamwork, the social skills to set your ego aside and play as part of the group - even the story deals with the harsh reality of modern warfare.

What makes a game like Mario Galaxies immature isn't the graphics, it's the story, it's the simplicity with which the characters relate to each other "itsa me! Mario!" and the simplicity of the gameplay. There's nothing wrong with playing a game like Mario Galaxies though, I mean, adults watch kid's cartoon shows... but it's not a mature game.

[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

This kiddy argument never fails to amuse me. Yes, some games are literally made for kids. Every system has these. Just because a game looks childish doesn't mean enjoying it is faux pas. Gears of War has realistic 3d graphics, blood, gore, big hulking dudes with big ass guns. And yet, what's mature about hacking someone to pieces with a chainsaw rifle?

subrosian

Well... the content would be mature, for one, hence the big 'ol "M" on the box. We might have gotten pretty crass as a society, but "guy getting cut in half with a chainsaw" is not a-okay for a ten year old audience.

Gears of War is a mature game - it has complex gameplay, requires teamwork, the social skills to set your ego aside and play as part of the group - even the story deals with the harsh reality of modern warfare.

What makes a game like Mario Galaxies immature isn't the graphics, it's the story, it's the simplicity with which the characters relate to each other "itsa me! Mario!" and the simplicity of the gameplay. There's nothing wrong with playing a game like Mario Galaxies though, I mean, adults watch kid's cartoon shows... but it's not a mature game.

That's what I'm referring to. I know that Gears of War, among others, is not appropriate for children. What I'm saying is that playing video games is not exactly a mature activity. You play games to have fun. If you deprive yourself of a game that looks childish for that reason, while praising mindless violent shooters, you're being a hypocrite.

If you don't want kiddie, then just get Manhunt 2, RE4, RE:UC, The Godfather, Scarface, Metroid, or (lol) Far Cry.

Far Cry added for comedic effect. 

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Overthrow"]

This kiddy argument never fails to amuse me. Yes, some games are literally made for kids. Every system has these. Just because a game looks childish doesn't mean enjoying it is faux pas. Gears of War has realistic 3d graphics, blood, gore, big hulking dudes with big ass guns. And yet, what's mature about hacking someone to pieces with a chainsaw rifle?

Overthrow

Well... the content would be mature, for one, hence the big 'ol "M" on the box. We might have gotten pretty crass as a society, but "guy getting cut in half with a chainsaw" is not a-okay for a ten year old audience.

Gears of War is a mature game - it has complex gameplay, requires teamwork, the social skills to set your ego aside and play as part of the group - even the story deals with the harsh reality of modern warfare.

What makes a game like Mario Galaxies immature isn't the graphics, it's the story, it's the simplicity with which the characters relate to each other "itsa me! Mario!" and the simplicity of the gameplay. There's nothing wrong with playing a game like Mario Galaxies though, I mean, adults watch kid's cartoon shows... but it's not a mature game.

That's what I'm referring to. I know that Gears of War, among others, is not appropriate for children. What I'm saying is that playing video games is not exactly a mature activity. You play games to have fun. If you deprive yourself of a game that looks childish for that reason, while praising mindless violent shooters, you're being a hypocrite.

Well... the content would be mature, for one, hence the big 'ol "M" on the box. We might have gotten pretty crass as a society, but "guy getting cut in half with a chainsaw" is not a-okay for a ten year old audience.

Gears of War is a mature game - it has complex gameplay, requires teamwork, the social skills to set your ego aside and play as part of the group - even the story deals with the harsh reality of modern warfare.

What makes a game like Mario Galaxies immature isn't the graphics, it's the story, it's the simplicity with which the characters relate to each other "itsa me! Mario!" and the simplicity of the gameplay. There's nothing wrong with playing a game like Mario Galaxies though, I mean, adults watch kid's cartoon shows... but it's not a mature game.

Harsh realities of modern warfare? The characters are just a bunch cliche, buff, macho men who aren't smart enough to wear helmets (with the exception of Carmine). And the only time I've seen teamwork is when some kid told his dad (they were on splitscreen) where his opponents were.

[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

This kiddy argument never fails to amuse me. Yes, some games are literally made for kids. Every system has these. Just because a game looks childish doesn't mean enjoying it is faux pas. Gears of War has realistic 3d graphics, blood, gore, big hulking dudes with big ass guns. And yet, what's mature about hacking someone to pieces with a chainsaw rifle?

subrosian

Well... the content would be mature, for one, hence the big 'ol "M" on the box. We might have gotten pretty crass as a society, but "guy getting cut in half with a chainsaw" is not a-okay for a ten year old audience.

Gears of War is a mature game - it has complex gameplay, requires teamwork, the social skills to set your ego aside and play as part of the group - even the story deals with the harsh reality of modern warfare.

What makes a game like Mario Galaxies immature isn't the graphics, it's the story, it's the simplicity with which the characters relate to each other "itsa me! Mario!" and the simplicity of the gameplay. There's nothing wrong with playing a game like Mario Galaxies though, I mean, adults watch kid's cartoon shows... but it's not a mature game.

Calling Mario Galaxy immature isn't an opnion, it's a flat-out lie.  It's like calling a Pixar movie, which are known to be reviewed and accepted as fantastic movies by *gasp* adults, immature.

To suggest it's aimed at children is a valid statement, but immature?  That's absolutely incorrect.

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]What you fail to realise is that alot of people dont give a **** about hardware specs. The Wii is fun to play and is bringing new experiences to games which is why it is selling so well. -Maddog-

Yes i realize that, I mentioned how exciting the whole new concept can be..and how it can reach a bigger audience. Alot jumped into the craz and how fun it can be...thats all good. But how long will that last with the title drought? I seen many forums where gamer complain about not enough good wii titles..and not enough variety. Its either Mario, Warioware, Wiisports, Zelda type games. I can understand people going nuts over the thing at this early stage but that can't really last with good and better software.

I see Sheep only hyping either SSB or Mario galaxy. What else? lol. You can't seriously expect sales to continue like this down the road without better games. Think about it.

Do you want developers like Ubisoft to just keep rushing out crappy games?

Of course there is a drought because developers are still in development of the games!! You can't expect massive amounts of epic titles in the first year of a consoles life.

There is plenty of great "starter" games to choose from right now like.. Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Prince of Persia: Rival Swords, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck, and plus quite a few virtual console games to keep ya busy til more wii games come out.

So to say there is no good games for the Wii is total BS.

Thats a great list of more kiddy games than anything else..and DUH they are. but why can't there be more than just crappy kiddy titles? There are alot more killer PS3/360 titles coming out than whats been annoucned for the Wii...isn't there? Like i said the only one i see is MP3..and all sheep list is either SSBB or Mario galaxy.

Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck.

Thats just a horrible list...seriously.

Because we all know that A & AA games are so horrible :roll:

Do you honestly consider all games that don't involve pointless amounts of violence, not worth playing?  That could be considered as dangerously disturbed :|

The Wii's strong sales are proof that above all, a console's PRICE POINT is most important.  It is also proof of just how many people don't care about HD and how few people acually have HD televisions.  Once HDTV's penetrate the market at a much higher rate, then you might see the sales of the Wii start to dwindle. 

But guess what, that won't happen for a long while.  2009 is when all stations are supposed to go HD

Easy

 

alecsuba

liking the Wii is reall easy.

step one- Actually play the damn machine fakeboy

step two- found one yet? okay. Proceed to play video game.

step three- have fun

done. see? that wasnt so hard.

jigglebilly1983

Step three is very hard for me personally. 

The main reason people like you do not like the wii, is that you honestly believe if a system does not have a AAAAAAAA FPS, then it can't be made for anyone, because you shooter types, also honestly believe, that you are the only TRUE gamers on the planet, which is not so true.

Now that others are invading the world of gaming, you have to pick on the portal.  Nintendo has been in the gamin business WAY longer than either of the "so called" big 2.  the big 2 haven't even mad a drop in the bucket of gaming that Nintendo has.

Gaming is more than shooting. Period.

Gaming is more than graphics. Period

Gaming is more than online shooting. Period

Gaming is more than online shooting with realistic looking blood, and severed heads, and heat producing processors that shoot flames out the slot beside the 600 gig hard drive located near the 16 HDMI output slots (insert more SPECS from hell here).  Period.

Games are for fun, Nintendo is fun, in no way does this hurt your precious graphics need or your FPS need.

If you don't like the wii, so be it.  But it appears that millions of others do, and you can just keep on shooting.

[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Easy

 

zayas_81

QFT!!:D

The Wii is not meant for the hardcore, solitary gamer.

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck.

Thats just a horrible list...seriously.

fenwickhotmail

How is that a horrible list? Also I see nothing "kiddy" about those games

tbh tht is a pretty horrible list. ive played most of them n they r pretty repetitive. 2 say theres nothing 'kiddy' about them is stupid

Wow you can't even explain why you think the games are "kiddy".. :lol: You must be a kid yourself!  

Ok, firstly, yeah, there are a lot of rushed ports and games that make poor use of the wiimote... but you could say the same thing for the PS3 and 360.  They get ports too, don't they?

Plus, games like Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption are visually stunning.  Just because Wii doesn't have full fledged next-gen visuals doesn't mean that the console can't graphically improve over last gen.

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

Sonic and the Secret Rings, SSX Blur, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Madden 07, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck.

Thats just a horrible list...seriously.

-supercharged-

How is that a horrible list? Also I see nothing "kiddy" about those games

tbh tht is a pretty horrible list. ive played most of them n they r pretty repetitive. 2 say theres nothing 'kiddy' about them is stupid

Wow you can't even explain why you think the games are "kiddy".. :lol: You must be a kid yourself!  

What makes a game kiddy.  Even better, what makes Excite Truck, SSX Blur, Trauma Center, and Madden 07 "kiddy".

*Cough*

RE: The Umbrella Chronicles

Scarface

Manhunt 2

Driver: Parallel Lines

*Cough*

*Cough*

RE: The Umbrella Chronicles

Scarface

Manhunt 2

Driver: Parallel Lines

*Cough*

ball_of_air

- Outdated graphics. Last gen hardware

- Weak Online

- Weak media features 

- Weak third party support and less variety.

- Much more Killer app titles coming to 360/PS3

- Feel guilty playing it

- 75$ overpriced.  

- Feel guilty playing itSilvereign

What?  :lol:

What you fail to realise is that alot of people dont give a **** about hardware specs. The Wii is fun to play and is bringing new experiences to games which is why it is selling so well. -supercharged-

You just summed up most of the Nintendo fanboy's arguments.

Honestly how? Yes i know its fasinating and exciting to experience a New controller and somwhat unique way to play games...but How does that last? expecially with the shocking list of Wii titles which is more kiddy/anim than anything else. The only Game i really want a wii for is Metroid Prime 3 corruptions...The rest are rushed and ugly games just made to quickly add the new controls. And Since Nintendo have lost the RE series basically, since the cube. Theres know reason to really get excited for one, IMO. and to add if more bad news to that...the Hardware is real outdated. So you can't fall back on visuals. I really expect so much more from Nintendo..when they announced the wii..but seeing nothing but rushed kiddy titles just focused around the controller, makes me wanna puke.

Lets not forget Online, I'm not much of an online gamer but i enjoy downloadable content/demos etc...Nintendos online is still a mess and they still avoid the whole concept of it. I loved nintendo in the old days with Snes/n64 but somehow they have lost it...most likely since the competition is just over powering...and probably know they counldn't stand the chance and losses involved..since both MS and SONY have other devision to rely on for prohit. But still, More could of been done.

I seriously hope nintendo does something about its 3rd party and overall more games in general in terms of variety...and more MATURE TITLES. Yes i know i'm whining and complaining..but doesn't this annoy sheep?

 

Thoughts?

-Maddog-

A LOT of people feel the same way that you do.  Don't listen to the sheep, they are going to attempt to back up their sad console no matter what.  I don't even see the Wii as a true console, it's more like a Mattel HyperScan or a....kid's console that you see in the toy aisle.  The Wii is another pathetic excuse from Nintendo (*Cough*GameCube....*sneeze*...N64). 

NINTENDO, WE SIMPLY WANT YOU TO AT LEAST TRY! :evil:

[QUOTE="Silvereign"] - Feel guilty playing itJandurin

What? :lol:

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]What you fail to realise is that alot of people dont give a **** about hardware specs. The Wii is fun to play and is bringing new experiences to games which is why it is selling so well. -Maddog-

Yes i realize that, I mentioned how exciting the whole new concept can be..and how it can reach a bigger audience. Alot jumped into the craz and how fun it can be...thats all good. But how long will that last with the title drought? I seen many forums where gamer complain about not enough good wii titles..and not enough variety. Its either Mario, Warioware, Wiisports, Zelda type games. I can understand people going nuts over the thing at this early stage but that can't really last with good and better software. 

I see Sheep only hyping either SSB or Mario galaxy. What else? lol. You can't seriously expect sales to continue like this down the road without better games. Think about it. 

One thing that I will counter with is that, quite obviously, casuals don't play as much as hard core gamers do. They can go a week without playing, easy. Can you do that if you're hard core? You'd be pressed to. Therefore, casuals can "survive" a drought easier then other gamers.

Honestly how? Yes i know its fasinating and exciting to experience a New controller and somwhat unique way to play games...but How does that last? expecially with the shocking list of Wii titles which is more kiddy/anim than anything else. The only Game i really want a wii for is Metroid Prime 3 corruptions...The rest are rushed and ugly games just made to quickly add the new controls. And Since Nintendo have lost the RE series basically, since the cube. Theres know reason to really get excited for one, IMO. and to add if more bad news to that...the Hardware is real outdated. So you can't fall back on visuals. I really expect so much more from Nintendo..when they announced the wii..but seeing nothing but rushed kiddy titles just focused around the controller, makes me wanna puke.

Lets not forget Online, I'm not much of an online gamer but i enjoy downloadable content/demos etc...Nintendos online is still a mess and they still avoid the whole concept of it. I loved nintendo in the old days with Snes/n64 but somehow they have lost it...most likely since the competition is just over powering...and probably know they counldn't stand the chance and losses involved..since both MS and SONY have other devision to rely on for prohit. But still, More could of been done.

I seriously hope nintendo does something about its 3rd party and overall more games in general in terms of variety...and more MATURE TITLES. Yes i know i'm whining and complaining..but doesn't this annoy sheep? 

 

Thoughts? 

-Maddog-

How can people like to read books when movies cost so much more to make and require less time?  How can people like riding bikes when cars are faster and have cool engines?

No offense, but your questions are pretty naive to the point of ignorance.  If you honestly cared about the answers to these questions, you would buy a wii and give it an honest chance.  Instead you just bashed everything about the console in an unfair manner.  I say "unfair" because you are bashing the wii for no reason other than it isn't the 360.  That's no more fair than me bashing books for not being movies or bashing spaghetti for not being lasagna or bashing bikes for not being cars.

The Wii is what it is, and if you actually care about games, or if you care about finding out why people like the Wii, then you will give it a fair chance and actually play it.  If not, then I find it difficult to take your questions seriously and as anything more than fanboy whining.

If you play it and give it a chance and it isn't for you, then fine.  that's just life.  But bashing the wii because you feel all consoles should be the 360 is pretty fanboyish.  Especially when we're talking about a console and company who dared to try something new instead of just offering more of the same old same old but in a shiny new package.

[QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]What you fail to realise is that alot of people dont give a **** about hardware specs. The Wii is fun to play and is bringing new experiences to games which is why it is selling so well. jim1029

Yes i realize that, I mentioned how exciting the whole new concept can be..and how it can reach a bigger audience. Alot jumped into the craz and how fun it can be...thats all good. But how long will that last with the title drought? I seen many forums where gamer complain about not enough good wii titles..and not enough variety. Its either Mario, Warioware, Wiisports, Zelda type games. I can understand people going nuts over the thing at this early stage but that can't really last with good and better software. 

I see Sheep only hyping either SSB or Mario galaxy. What else? lol. You can't seriously expect sales to continue like this down the road without better games. Think about it. 

One thing that I will counter with is that, quite obviously, casuals don't play as much as hard core gamers do. They can go a week without playing, easy. Can you do that if you're hard core? You'd be pressed to. Therefore, casuals can "survive" a drought easier then other gamers.

While I believe in you ovrall point, I don't believe that how much time you spend gaming makes you casual or hardcore.  Many casuals have time to sit and play games all day long, while I have to go to work and look after a house and family.  However, the casual probably won't read up on gaming news, industry info or keep track of the business side of the gaming industry.

[QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"]The Wii is aimed at Non gamers, casual gamers, nitendo fans, kids, elderly practically everyone. -Maddog-

I think that about sums it up. Why can't a Nintendo 1st party game be more than just Mario/zelda and more kiddy trash? What about the hardcore gamers and older gamers? What ever happen to reaching EVERYONE? If anything the PS3/360 reaches EVERYONE with there games. The Wii only reaches extra others with the easier and new controller...thats its.  

games like Mario/Zelda r not may not be "Mature" but that doesn't make them "kiddy" and definitly not TRASH!  mario is fun for everyone and you can invest hour upon hour into the game there is nothing more hardcore than that!