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#51  Edited By ccagracing
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Why all the talk about Joe Gamer? What about existing 360 owners who may want to move on to xbox1? PS4 looks real good from a hardware point of view, but where is the games? a console first unveiled in march irrc and a single exclusive title at launch, why? Vita was all set to destroy 3ds with its superior specs but we know how that's panned out.

This console war will be close, price will be an issue for Microsoft, I reckon it will drop to £389 in the UK by summer 2014. Lets not forget that only approx £35 difference in the console if you want to buy Fifa, PS4 is £349.99 and £47 for Fifa 14 versus £429 on xbox1 for same package. PS4 looks great but Killzone wont move consoles, it didn't move PS3 and BF4 and COD releasing at same time will hamper it.

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#52 StriateEnd
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@blackace said:

@emgesp said:

a lot of games won't be hitting native 1080p. The PS4 has more 1080p games than the XB1 so far.

They can't even get COD: Ghosts to run in 1080p on the XB1 and look how dated those graphics look to begin with.

MS needs a price cut ASAP if they want to truly compete with Sony in the long run. Sure, the hardcore Xbox fans will pay $500 for the console, but all the average Joe gamers which make up for the majority of gamers is going to pick the PS4 on price alone. Why pay $100 more to play inferior ports of the same game?

Only games confirmed running on PS4 @ 1080P @60fps is KZ:SF. & Flower. Nothing else has been confirmed 1080P - 60fps on the PS4. On XB1, it's Forza 5 & Titanfall.

Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut. Too much stupid in this post.

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#53 emgesp
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@ccagracing said:

Why all the talk about Joe Gamer? What about existing 360 owners who may want to move on to xbox1? PS4 looks real good from a hardware point of view, but where is the games? a console first unveiled in march irrc and a single exclusive title at launch, why? Vita was all set to destroy 3ds with its superior specs but we know how that's panned out.

This console war will be close, price will be an issue for Microsoft, I reckon it will drop to £389 in the UK by summer 2014. Lets not forget that only approx £35 difference in the console if you want to buy Fifa, PS4 is £349.99 and £47 for Fifa 14 versus £429 on xbox1 for same package. PS4 looks great but Killzone wont move consoles, it didn't move PS3 and BF4 and COD releasing at same time will hamper it.

I've already stated that the hardcore Xbox 360 fans will most likely pay the $500 for the XB1, but Joe Gamer won't.

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#54 lundy86_4
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Lemmings aren't poor.

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#55 TrooperManaic
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Tell me what game the PC cant play on 1080P?

The consoles are looking less and less appealing as time goes on.

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#56 foxhound_fox
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Hardware costs kinda mandate what they need to charge in order to break even/make a profit. They could easily charge $400 for it, but how much money are they going to lose doing so?

I can almost guarantee that the Xbone will sell very well this holiday season. MS knows that advertising is the cornerstone of success in the modern mainstream gaming market, and they will be spending likely billions on advertising it. It will do well, probably better than the PS4.

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#57 Murderstyle75
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@ccagracing:

Most 360 gamers I know, "self included" will not be buying an Xbox One. Its just funny to me how so many Lems use 2006 Cow logic to defend the price. This is even worse since the PS3 did offer them Blu-Ray for cheaper than a stand alone player. While it was a niche market, X1 doesn't really offer anything to anybody.

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#58 Murderstyle75
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@foxhound_fox:

Then explain the lack of success they are seeing with Windows 8, Windows Phone and Surface despite all the marketing.

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#59 KellyKelly
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@lundy86_4 said:

Lemmings aren't poor.

Maybe that's because there were no games for years on the 360

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#60 GravityX
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Bluray player 50 bucks

State of the art voice and gesture control camera and microphone array 150 bucks

Next gen console built to last ten years with an upgraded Xbox 360 type architecture minus all the negatives for 299 bucks

Justified confirmed.

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#61  Edited By YD_11
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Despite the price the X1 shouldn't have much trouble selling this holiday season. Only time will tell. We will know how people feel about it more after both consoles are at least demoed in stores for comparison. If nothing else, X1 will distinguish itself as more than just pretty games. The success is to be determined but I know it's convinced myself and plenty others that they are trying to not only provide more immersive gameplay through Kinect and cloud tech but also offer streamlining for a myriad of other pastimes.

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#62 Mozelleple112
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@emgesp said:

@StormyJoe said:

@emgesp said:

a lot of games won't be hitting native 1080p. The PS4 has more 1080p games than the XB1 so far.

They can't even get COD: Ghosts to run in 1080p on the XB1 and look how dated those graphics look to begin with.

MS needs a price cut ASAP if they want to truly compete with Sony in the long run. Sure, the hardcore Xbox fans will pay $500 for the console, but all the average Joe gamers which make up for the majority of gamers is going to pick the PS4 on price alone. Why pay $100 more to play inferior ports of the same game?

Really... is that why the Wii sold so poorly this gen? Graphics are important, but 720p vs 1080p is a hardcore sticking point, not a casual one. Casuals will buy the XB1 for it's games, online, and media capabilities.

Average Joe buys Madden, GTA and Call of Duty games. Exclusives don't mean jack for the most part. Average Joe gamer will see that all his favorite multiplats will be on the PS4 at $100 cheaper and make the obvious decision.

Sure, Wii sold the most, but a lot of people that bought the Wii also bought a PS3, or 360.

sounds like average murricane. Swap Madden for Fifa and you got real word average joe :P

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#63 Phazevariance
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@HaRmLeSS_RaGe said:

Cows can't stand the fact that some people actually prefer the Xbox One, it drives them insane.

"bu bu bu why aren't you emotionally attached to the PS4 like me" :(

To be fair, most of them were insane to start with.