i don't get it why people can play a game that runs lower than 60fps, its more like playing it on a flip book or something, thats the reason why i'm not buying a current gen FPS, cause it hurts my eye, and it really ruined gameplay alot to me, and its hurrible especially for a racing game too, the reason why Gran Turismo is the best sim racer and Burnout Paradise for arcade racer, cause both of them runs smooth as silk in 60fps, and ppl doesn't care about how bad the frame rate they game are, most of the current gen console shooters runs in 30fps and it kills gameplay, thats why i like playing the older game much better.
BEcouse teh overwhelming majority of console games that look good runs at 10-30fps and PC youve got 30-120fps for all games exept Crysis which is on high 30-60 on medium/low-end and 60+ fps on high end PC.
BEcouse teh overwhelming majority of console games that look good runs at 10-30fps and PC youve got 30-120fps for all games exept Crysis which is on high 30-60 on medium/low-end and 60+ fps on high end PC.IgorVitaly
i don't get it why people can play a game that runs lower than 60fps, its more like playing it on a flip book or something, thats the reason why i'm not buying a current gen FPS, cause it hurts my eye, and it really ruined gameplay alot to me, and its hurrible especially for a racing game too, the reason why Gran Turismo is the best sim racer and Burnout Paradise for arcade racer, cause both of them runs smooth as silk in 60fps, and ppl doesn't care about how bad the frame rate they game are, most of the current gen console shooters runs in 30fps and it kills gameplay, thats why i like playing the older game much better.jojo198
Wow you have an eagle eye because a human eye can't notice the diference.
because 99% of the population can't see a difference post 24 fps?jliebel
That is the amount of frame's used for movie theatre's, not the limit our eye's can perceive.
The main thing about FPS is that they have to be solid. If you have a 60FPS game and it constantly fluctuate's down to 30 you are going to have a far worse experience than if the game was locked at 30FPS.
[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]BEcouse teh overwhelming majority of console games that look good runs at 10-30fps and PC youve got 30-120fps for all games exept Crysis which is on high 30-60 on medium/low-end and 60+ fps on high end PC.Gamerman12362
^ I get 30, up and down, at high on my pc.
With a 8800GT and at 1920x1200p sure Ibelieve you... but then that is a high resolution... PS3 cant even run MGS4 at HD res nor KZ2 at more than 720p. And the xbox360 only 720p for Gears 2?
I play 1280x1024 ultra high 30-40fps on dual 8800GTX.... go figure son!
because 99% of the population can't see a difference post 24 fps?jliebel
Not true. This is the framerate movies run at but remember the shutter opens on each frame TWICE, and also it's in a dark theater (light eats dark). The average person can see well in excess of 100FPS. For those who say the human eye can't see over 60FPS, set your refresh rate to 60HZ on a *CRT MONITOR* and open a blank notepad to full screen. Notice the flicker? Yeah.
If you replace all the "30 fps" in this thread by "10 fps", it somehow makes sense. But as it stands, it's just a weird clutter of words with no reason in them.
Low frame's per second can actually cause vertigo and also headache's if played over a period of time, so your mind does actually see the difference. overall the experience isn't vastly different between 30-60FPS, but the higher the FPS the more smoother the animation's will be since it's showing every frame of the animation.
[QUOTE="jojo198"]i don't get it why people can play a game that runs lower than 60fps, its more like playing it on a flip book or something, thats the reason why i'm not buying a current gen FPS, cause it hurts my eye, and it really ruined gameplay alot to me, and its hurrible especially for a racing game too, the reason why Gran Turismo is the best sim racer and Burnout Paradise for arcade racer, cause both of them runs smooth as silk in 60fps, and ppl doesn't care about how bad the frame rate they game are, most of the current gen console shooters runs in 30fps and it kills gameplay, thats why i like playing the older game much better.fjburgos
Wow you have an eagle eye because a human eye can't notice the diference.
its not all about the looks, its all about how it plays.
So the conclusion is: To make movies/Virtual Reality perfect, you'd have to know what you want. To have a perfect illusion of everything that can flash, blink and move you shouldn't go below 500 fps
Movies open the shutter twice per frame, plus it's in a dark theater that has an effect of bleeding frames into each other. TVs operate on an interlaced method, so even though the entire picture is only refreshed 30 times a second, the picture is changing locally (per every-other-line) at 60 times per second.
COD series on console actually sacrifices graphic quality to keep the game at 60fps.
Why are movies at 24fps? Saves money on film, the projector guys at your local theater dont get a hernia carrying around 60fps reels or having to pause the movie halfway to change reels.
Could a 60fps film even fit on a single dvd? Doubt it.
Ask hermits. (so many games will play like a slideshow if you try to make them look as good as the console version- believe it!)
Bur anyway, a stable 30 is fine.
Gamerman12362
99% of people interested in PC gaming could easily afford to build a gaming pc far more powerful than this gen of consoles. Look at me, I'm 16, no job and i was able to build a gaming PC over the coarse of 4-5 months. NO game runs like a slide-show on my comp, which is more than i can say for a hand-full of console games. And for anyone used to playing games at 60fps and above trust me when i say 30fps is very noticeable. People say the human eye cant recognise the difference between 30fps and 60fps but there has being research and in fact the human eye can see a difference in frame-rate especially with lots of moving objects on screen.
I guess you can't watch TV since cameras roll at less than 30 fps.Oriental_Jams
But the screen is interlaced, so even though you only get a whole new picture 30 times a second, things are changing locally 60 times per second. That's why it's interlaced.
It's irritating, but I get over it. The difference between 30 and 60 is MASSIVE, but what are you gonna do? I'm not going to wait until titles are old and I have better hardware to play them. And in the case of console games their framerate is never gonna get better, so what, you just won't play the game?
I wish Assassin's Creed ran at 60 fps, but the game is so sexy I don't mind the framerate.
How fast are your eyes to think 30 fps is like playing a slide show. True it's an obivous difference between 30 and 60 fps (people in this forum need to work on thier science) but 30 isn't that bad, or well isn't bad at all to begin with.
Yeah if you animate youll know that anything past 30-36 fps the human eye cant see any different.chaoz-king
It's quite easy to spot the difference between 30 and 60 fps, and this is coming from a guy who's half blind. Try playing Mario Kart Wii, I always have a bit of shuddering on seeing singleplayer battles vs multiplayer battles of 3 or 4 people becuase hte frame rate goes from 60 to 30.
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