How did GTAIV manage to score a 10 here again??

Beyond my opinion (deserves a 9.5), in the video review the reviewer clearly says "GTA4 isn't perfect" and yet GS's rating system clearly states that a 10 is "As perfect as a game can aspire to be at it's time of release", this makes no sense :|, thoughts??

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maybe check the other 10 million threads on this for answer?

It was 9.5 but then they changed it to meet the ridiculous hype train.

10 = PRIME now, which is laughable to call GTA4 prime... it could of been so much better, the most repetitive GTA of the 3D ones yet. Its like if they run out of ideas so early on.

Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Zaeryn

AMEN.

It was 9.5 but then they changed it to meet the ridiculous hype train.

10 = PRIME now, which is laughable to call GTA4 prime... it could of been so much better, the most repetitive GTA of the 3D ones yet. Its like if they run out of ideas so early on.

Meu2k7

My brother bought all the previous GTA games, so I know what I'm saying when I say they're jam-packed with features.

When I saw GTAIV, it was the first one I actually wanted to play, it just looked good. I was suckered in by the graphics. But wow, it's like they took GTA and stripped it of 50% of San Andreas' content. There is nothing to do in GTAIV. You beat the game and you're like, all right, time to go unlock all those special features and do everything that I didn't in the story! Too bad there is nothing else to do, because in the 40 hours it takes you to beat the game, you've already played everything the game has to offer. I played through it, and I'm highly disappointed. I would give it a 7.5 at best.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

It was 9.5 but then they changed it to meet the ridiculous hype train.

10 = PRIME now, which is laughable to call GTA4 prime... it could of been so much better, the most repetitive GTA of the 3D ones yet. Its like if they run out of ideas so early on.

kingman03

Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Zaeryn

I agree totally.

i would give it a 10. based on GS standards and reviewing system i dont know.Arjdagr8

Based on GS standards GTAIV doesn't deserve a 10, i'm not talking about how good or bad GTA4 is, im talking about the fact that GS is starting to contradict themselves more and more, the reviewer clearly stated that the game "isn't perfect" while they consider a 10 "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at it's time of release", makes the story about jeff being fired cuz of giving K&L a low score more legit.

LINK

because the game is perfect, even Jack Thomson thinks so

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]i would give it a 10. based on GS standards and reviewing system i dont know.thejakel11225

Based on GS standards GTAIV doesn't deserve a 10, i'm not talking about how good or bad GTA4 is, im talking about the fact that GS is starting to contradict themselves more and more, the reviewer clearly stated that the game "isn't perfect" while they consider a 10 "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at it's time of release", makes the story about jeff being fired cuz of giving K&L a low score more legit.

LINK

It's weird. "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release" does not mean perfect. However, they used to say that 10 = perfect. Quite a while ago, but their views on games now is "no game can be perfect, so let's just say it's as close to perfect as possible".

I think it's a case of being too over-judgmental.

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]i would give it a 10. based on GS standards and reviewing system i dont know.nyoroism

Based on GS standards GTAIV doesn't deserve a 10, i'm not talking about how good or bad GTA4 is, im talking about the fact that GS is starting to contradict themselves more and more, the reviewer clearly stated that the game "isn't perfect" while they consider a 10 "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at it's time of release", makes the story about jeff being fired cuz of giving K&L a low score more legit.

LINK

It's weird. "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release" does not mean perfect. However, they used to say that 10 = perfect. Quite a while ago, but their views on games now is "no game can be perfect, so let's just say it's as close to perfect as possible".

I think it's a case of being too over-judgmental.

ok, the rest of the statement says "a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way", what about the freezing issues? what about the framerate hickups? what about having to restart a mission cuz an NPC won't follow? what about the retarded new chase system?(though this really comes down to opinion)

It feels like R* bought GTA4 its 10 rather than earning it.

Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Zaeryn

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]i would give it a 10. based on GS standards and reviewing system i dont know.thejakel11225

Based on GS standards GTAIV doesn't deserve a 10, i'm not talking about how good or bad GTA4 is, im talking about the fact that GS is starting to contradict themselves more and more, the reviewer clearly stated that the game "isn't perfect" while they consider a 10 "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at it's time of release", makes the story about jeff being fired cuz of giving K&L a low score more legit.

LINK

It's weird. "as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release" does not mean perfect. However, they used to say that 10 = perfect. Quite a while ago, but their views on games now is "no game can be perfect, so let's just say it's as close to perfect as possible".

I think it's a case of being too over-judgmental.

ok, the rest of the statement says "a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way", what about the freezing issues? what about the framerate hickups? what about having to restart a mission cuz an NPC won't follow? what about the retarded new chase system?(though this really comes down to opinion)

It feels like R* bought GTA4 its 10 rather than earning it.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Forensic-Klown

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Forensic-Klown

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

So, you think a game deserves a PERFECT 10/10 when they haven't innovated ANYTHING? There is no way a game like GTA IV with recycled content and a couple new features is going to deserve a 10.

Ocarina of Time changed the action-adventure genre in MANY different ways and brought full 3-D graphics to light, Final Fantasy 7 brought RPG's to the mainstream in western culture and changed the RPG genre. Without those games, you wouldn't have many of the games we have now.

What did GTA IV do?

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

It was 9.5 but then they changed it to meet the ridiculous hype train.

10 = PRIME now, which is laughable to call GTA4 prime... it could of been so much better, the most repetitive GTA of the 3D ones yet. Its like if they run out of ideas so early on.

kingman03

actually acording to some guy in gs( i think it was uk gs or somethign like that i dont have link) he said how the review process works and where the glitch came in. he said something like this, "after completeing his review of 9.5, alot of our coleges thought it deserved a 10 but somehow the review was posted before it was finalized"

in other words his boss said to change the score because we want to ride the hype train and ruin our credibility more so why not just give it a 10

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Zaeryn

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

So, you think a game deserves a PERFECT 10/10 when they haven't innovated ANYTHING? There is no way a game like GTA IV with recycled content and a couple new features is going to deserve a 10.

Ocarina of Time changed the action-adventure genre in MANY different ways and brought full 3-D graphics to light, Final Fantasy 7 brought RPG's to the mainstream in western culture and changed the RPG genre. Without those games, you wouldn't have many of the games we have now.

What did GTA IV do?

10 doesn't mean PERFECT, understand?

if the games fun enough, backed up with a great and interesting story, added with online that works, with graphics that are impressive..meaning if its the total package, 10 is understandable and reasonable.

you have to understand that, these days it isn't easy to innovate, almost all has been done b4...if your lucky, sure you'll get those extra points, (IF IT WORKS WELL)

but in the end, its all about making a fun and excellent game, no matter how its done.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Zaeryn

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

So, you think a game deserves a PERFECT 10/10 when they haven't innovated ANYTHING? There is no way a game like GTA IV with recycled content and a couple new features is going to deserve a 10.

Ocarina of Time changed the action-adventure genre in MANY different ways and brought full 3-D graphics to light, Final Fantasy 7 brought RPG's to the mainstream in western culture and changed the RPG genre. Without those games, you wouldn't have many of the games we have now.

What did GTA IV do?

what did gta4 do....what did gta4 do, are you serious? i give up seriously. people just look at the story but dont notice anything else in gta4. if i answered your question i would just making my own review that would be exactly the same as IGN, Gametrailers and Gamespots reviews.

its the best game i have played in a long time, that may change with mgs4, but seriously ive played many games and this one imo is a cut above the rest.

[QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

It was 9.5 but then they changed it to meet the ridiculous hype train.

10 = PRIME now, which is laughable to call GTA4 prime... it could of been so much better, the most repetitive GTA of the 3D ones yet. Its like if they run out of ideas so early on.

adman66

actually acording to some guy in gs( i think it was uk gs or somethign like that i dont have link) he said how the review process works and where the glitch came in. he said something like this, "after completeing his review of 9.5, alot of our coleges thought it deserved a 10 but somehow the review was posted before it was finalized"

in other words his boss said to change the score because we want to ride the hype train and ruin our credibility more so why not just give it a 10

Probably what happened, sad though, makes me remember what GS used to be and what GS is right now.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Forensic-Klown

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

So, you think a game deserves a PERFECT 10/10 when they haven't innovated ANYTHING? There is no way a game like GTA IV with recycled content and a couple new features is going to deserve a 10.

Ocarina of Time changed the action-adventure genre in MANY different ways and brought full 3-D graphics to light, Final Fantasy 7 brought RPG's to the mainstream in western culture and changed the RPG genre. Without those games, you wouldn't have many of the games we have now.

What did GTA IV do?

10 doesn't mean PERFECT, understand?

if the games fun enough, backed up with a great and interesting story, added with online that works, with graphics that are impressive..meaning if its the total package, 10 is understandable and reasonable.

you have to understand that, these days it isn't easy to innovate, almost all has been done b4...if your lucky, sure you'll get those extra points, (IF IT WORKS WELL)

but in the end, its all about making a fun and excellent game, no matter how its done.

Well I guess I can understand that you don't NEED to innovate to get a 10/10. But a 10/10 still requires A LOT. GTA IV just didn't deserve that score whatsoever when compared to other games of the same score. Hype train and a fat check to the reviewers if you ask me. It deserved a 9.0 or 9.5, but a 10/10 is ridiculous. It was good, not groundbreaking.

Honestly, if I have to give one word for GTA IV, it's rehash. A good one at that, but a rehash nonetheless.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Compare GTA IV to games like Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time and you'll realize how messed up the scores are. GTA IV innovated nothing, it was just recycled content with a few new features, shiny graphics, and a big budget. The game is fun, but it's not groundbreaking. Nobody will care about the game 10 years from now. Arjdagr8

so a game has to innovate to get a 10, get real.

So, you think a game deserves a PERFECT 10/10 when they haven't innovated ANYTHING? There is no way a game like GTA IV with recycled content and a couple new features is going to deserve a 10.

Ocarina of Time changed the action-adventure genre in MANY different ways and brought full 3-D graphics to light, Final Fantasy 7 brought RPG's to the mainstream in western culture and changed the RPG genre. Without those games, you wouldn't have many of the games we have now.

What did GTA IV do?

what did gta4 do....what did gta4 do, are you serious? i give up seriously. people just look at the story but dont notice anything else in gta4. if i answered your question i would just making my own review that would be exactly the same as IGN, Gametrailers and Gamespots reviews.

its the best game i have played in a long time, that may change with mgs4, but seriously ive played many games and this one imo is a cut above the rest.

[spoiler] Besides sell a lot :lol: [/spoiler]