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It's a known fact that there is a lot of cheating in many PC games but how do you deal with it? In GTA IV there is so much cheating that many people have stopped playing online. Cheating in GTA IV is so bad that basically every server has a cheater.They use god mode and spawn vehicles andin Battlefield they use unlimited strikes and drop unlimited vehicles. Crysis has a lot of cheating but hardly anyone play that online anymore.

One good thing about console games namely PS3 and 360 is that you can't hack and cheat. How do PC gamers deal with this?

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#2 primitive013
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i use steam and they have an anticheat (VAC secured) to scan your game registry for hacks and cheats. but there are ways around it i think.

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Some games are worse than others. In CSS, that last time I encountered a cheater was years ago and he was instantly booted by an admin.

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Watch out, its Jamex making thigns on the PC side look worse than they are again :roll:, unlimted strikes? on normal servers... PLEASE.

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[QUOTE="primitive013"]

i use steam and they have an anticheat (VAC secured) to scan your game registry for hacks and cheats. but there are ways around it i think.

That's only for the Valve games.
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Watch out, its Jamex making thigns on the PC side look worse than they are again :roll:, unlimted strikes? on normal servers... PLEASE.

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If you never saw it then good for you. I have seen it many times in the past. There are lots of posts with complaints about cheating in GTA IV.

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#7 Legendaryscmt
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Don't they call it punkbuster?

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#8 MBP_King
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Usually the servers deploy SDK's that look/deal with the cheaters.

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If the game is old and not very popular, your probably screwed. If the game is more recent and popular, just change the server to one with some kind of anti cheat measures.

That said it has been years since I have seen some cheater or team killer or any other annoying type ruin a game completely.

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#10 Jamex1987
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Don't they call it punkbuster?

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Not all games use punkbuster and punkbuster doesn't detect everything. It updates after the fact.
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I play on servers that don't have hackers. Duh.
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we skin em ailve then wear there skin as a warning to other hackers! :twisted:

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The problem was far worse years ago. VERY very rarely you will see a hacker.
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http://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pCuBPk-02cngxInnzCuPREOneRARVfF1rhSB48OI4QXndrSRzw52MSYP8CZD6BXQw

With this

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Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.
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You grab your broom and declare Shenanigans!!!

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http://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pCuBPk-02cngxInnzCuPREOneRARVfF1rhSB48OI4QXndrSRzw52MSYP8CZD6BXQw

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Gotta make it untap at will though.

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Some games are worse than others. In CSS, that last time I encountered a cheater was years ago and he was instantly booted by an admin.

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Yeah. Most games today have good anti-cheater stuff. People aren't dumb.
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#19 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Some games are worse than others. In CSS, that last time I encountered a cheater was years ago and he was instantly booted by an admin.

Wasdie

Yeah. Most games today have good anti-cheater stuff. People aren't dumb.

Most anti-cheat are unable to stop all cheats. didn't crysis use punkbuster yet it was rampant with cheaters.

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#20 Jamex1987
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Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.blue_hazy_basic
Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? rofl
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.Jamex1987
Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? rofl

In my 10+ years the only one time I EVER saw a god mode hack (because stuff like that is detectable by any basic anti cheat, not to mention players and admins) was the battlefield 2 DEMO ... If you said aim hacks, or autoit programs then yes, those pop up now and then... but god modes and unlimited ammo? ... your making up a load of rubbish, yes they can happen on servers that allow it, but are easily stopped by the majority of legit servers.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.Jamex1987
Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? rofl

So you're saying that PSN and Xbox Live are both 100% immune to cheating?

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.Jamex1987
Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? rofl

You certainly can't go into specifics on these boards but yes there are various hacks and pieces of equipment you can use to give you a significant illegal advanatge.
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.PC360Wii
Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? rofl

In my 10+ years the only one time I EVER saw a god mode hack (because stuff like that is detectable by any basic anti cheat, not to mention players and admins) was the battlefield 2 DEMO ... If you said aim hacks, or autoit programs then yes, those pop up now and then... but god modes and unlimited ammo? ... your making up a load of rubbish, yes they can happen on servers that allow it, but are easily stopped by the majority of legit servers.

so are console gamers using unlimited ammo and aimbots? i replied to the the poster and you responded with something totally irrelevant to what i was saying.

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I think in all my years of pc gaming I've seen a certified hacker only once, it's not nearly as big of a problem as some console fanboys make it. Personally I tend to stick to 1-5 good servers per game where unwanted people are efficiently kicked out, mostly those "unwanted" people are exploiters or teamkillers and can be found on consoles too. It's when you play on pirate servers or servers that have purposely no pb that you run into cheats.
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not hacks or cheats in console games? You must have been playing different ones to me.blue_hazy_basic
Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? rofl

You certainly can't go into specifics on these boards but yes there are various hacks and pieces of equipment you can use to give you a significant illegal advanatge.

there is a difference between a glitch and a hack. hacking invoves modifying the game which isn't possible on 360 or ps3.

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#28 PC360Wii
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Ok then, I'l anwser directly.

We dont deal with hackers, we barely ever see them, well those of us that have braincells.

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#29 glez13
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I think in all my years of pc gaming I've seen a certified hacker only once, it's not nearly as big of a problem as some console fanboys make it. Personally I tend to stick to 1-5 good servers per game where unwanted people are efficiently kicked out, mostly those "unwanted" people are exploiters or teamkillers and can be found on consoles too. It's when you play on pirate servers or servers that have purposely no pb that you run into cheats.mr_mozilla

This. I would also like to add that most of these "cheaters" are only people that are very good in the game. When ass is kicked, and ownage served, anyone can cry foul play. Whining has always been popular on PC gaming. ;)

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? roflJamex1987

You certainly can't go into specifics on these boards but yes there are various hacks and pieces of equipment you can use to give you a significant illegal advanatge.

there is a difference between a glitch and a hack. hacking invoves modifying the game which isn't possible on 360 or ps3.

I'm afraid you're wrong.
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It's been a long time since I saw one, the last time being on WoW a few years back.
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#32 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

You certainly can't go into specifics on these boards but yes there are various hacks and pieces of equipment you can use to give you a significant illegal advanatge. blue_hazy_basic
there is a difference between a glitch and a hack. hacking invoves modifying the game which isn't possible on 360 or ps3.

I'm afraid you're wrong.

You are wrong but whatever makes you feel better.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Are you telling me that 360 and Ps3 gamers are using god mode and other hacks? roflJamex1987

You certainly can't go into specifics on these boards but yes there are various hacks and pieces of equipment you can use to give you a significant illegal advanatge.

there is a difference between a glitch and a hack. hacking invoves modifying the game which isn't possible on 360 or ps3.

Both suck when they happen, so the experience on a console is just as susceptible to suckage as it is on a PC.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] there is a difference between a glitch and a hack. hacking invoves modifying the game which isn't possible on 360 or ps3.

Jamex1987

I'm afraid you're wrong.

You are wrong but whatever makes you feel better.

Go check the internets or ebay my friend

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I'm afraid you're wrong.blue_hazy_basic

You are wrong but whatever makes you feel better.

Go check the internets or ebay my friend

True.

TeH INteRwEBz iS fUll oF KnoWLeDge.

But anyway, anyone trying to claim ownage over this topic will, ultimately, only find self ownage.

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="primitive013"]

i use steam and they have an anticheat (VAC secured) to scan your game registry for hacks and cheats. but there are ways around it i think.

That's only for the Valve games.

Then what about Punkbuster? That's an independent solution along the same lines.
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I'm afraid you're wrong.blue_hazy_basic

You are wrong but whatever makes you feel better.

Go check the internets or ebay my friend

Maybe you are confused with piracy. Pirating a game doesn't mean it can be modified in case you didn't know. But anyway believe what you want.
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#38 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="primitive013"]

i use steam and they have an anticheat (VAC secured) to scan your game registry for hacks and cheats. but there are ways around it i think.

That's only for the Valve games.

Then what about Punkbuster? That's an independent solution along the same lines.

Punkbuster is not used in all games and like i said before crysis was using punkbuster yet it was rampant with hackers on punkbuster servers.
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Ban them, use VAC or punkbuster, etc. Console players exploit glitches as well, especially in the big name multiplayer games like Halo and Gears of War, ultimately making the game unbalanced and ruining it for a lot of people.

And GTAIV on PC is garbage. It's a poorly executed port and it's been known to have several issues.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] You are wrong but whatever makes you feel better.Jamex1987

Go check the internets or ebay my friend

Maybe you are confused with piracy. Pirating a game doesn't mean it can be modified in case you didn't know. But anyway believe what you want.

Lol, this just keeps getting better and better. No matter what the game is, the console, etc, etc, it can be hacked.

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It's a known fact that there is a lot of cheating in many PC games but how do you deal with it? In GTA IV there is so much cheating that many people have stopped playing online. Cheating in GTA IV is so bad that basically every server has a cheater.They use god mode and spawn vehicles andin Battlefield they use unlimited strikes and drop unlimited vehicles. Crysis has a lot of cheating but hardly anyone play that online anymore.

One good thing about console games namely PS3 and 360 is that you can't hack and cheat. How do PC gamers deal with this?

Jamex1987

I hate to break it to you and crush your little fantasy world, but there is hacking on consoles as well. I have seen it in GTA4 and Resistance 1.

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Its called a good admin for your server, GET ONE!
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#43 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

It's a known fact that there is a lot of cheating in many PC games but how do you deal with it? In GTA IV there is so much cheating that many people have stopped playing online. Cheating in GTA IV is so bad that basically every server has a cheater.They use god mode and spawn vehicles andin Battlefield they use unlimited strikes and drop unlimited vehicles. Crysis has a lot of cheating but hardly anyone play that online anymore.

One good thing about console games namely PS3 and 360 is that you can't hack and cheat. How do PC gamers deal with this?

I hate to break it to you and crush your little fantasy world, but there is hacking on consoles as well. I have seen it in GTA4 and Resistance 1.

Sure you have lol. What hack did you see? Was someone using an aimbot
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So bad online games have cheaters? What about the good online games..?

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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

It's a known fact that there is a lot of cheating in many PC games but how do you deal with it? In GTA IV there is so much cheating that many people have stopped playing online. Cheating in GTA IV is so bad that basically every server has a cheater.They use god mode and spawn vehicles andin Battlefield they use unlimited strikes and drop unlimited vehicles. Crysis has a lot of cheating but hardly anyone play that online anymore.

One good thing about console games namely PS3 and 360 is that you can't hack and cheat. How do PC gamers deal with this?

Jamex1987

I hate to break it to you and crush your little fantasy world, but there is hacking on consoles as well. I have seen it in GTA4 and Resistance 1.

Sure you have lol. What hack did you see? Was someone using an aimbot

I don't know what they were using because I am not a hacker. But in GTA4, the guy couldn't be killed and when he got in a car, the car wouldn't take damage. And the guy in Reistance 1 was running so fast, I could barely keep up with looking at him. Also, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. It doesn't change the FACT that there are hackers on consoles also. So you can go back to your little fantasy world now.

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Vote, kick? And, GTA IV? :lol: Complain to Rockstar they coded a game with so many flaws.
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]I hate to break it to you and crush your little fantasy world, but there is hacking on consoles as well. I have seen it in GTA4 and Resistance 1.

TheGreatOutdoor

Sure you have lol. What hack did you see? Was someone using an aimbot

I don't know what they were using because I am not a hacker. But in GTA4, the guy couldn't be killed and when he got in a car, the car wouldn't take damage. And the guy in Reistance 1 was running so fast, I could barely keep up with looking at hit. Also, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. It doesn't change the FACT that there are hackers on consoles also. So you can go back to your little fantasy world now.

Was this on Live or PSN? If you're on Live, you can refer the player to the admins, who can investigate for cheats and exploits.
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Sure you have lol. What hack did you see? Was someone using an aimbotHuusAsking

I don't know what they were using because I am not a hacker. But in GTA4, the guy couldn't be killed and when he got in a car, the car wouldn't take damage. And the guy in Reistance 1 was running so fast, I could barely keep up with looking at hit. Also, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. It doesn't change the FACT that there are hackers on consoles also. So you can go back to your little fantasy world now.

Was this on Live or PSN? If you're on Live, you can refer the player to the admins, who can investigate for cheats and exploits.

It was on PSN when I had my PS3. So like 8-9 months ago.

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I play on respectable servers.
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Admins on dedicated servers tend to get the work done.