How do sheep explain all the first party Gamecube titled that failed to get AAA?

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#1 Bread_or_Decide
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Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

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Who cares what GS rates them? Nintendo games are still very fun.
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:| I'm speechless...
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#4 Anxz
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bu bu bu teh wii is NEXT GEN!!
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Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

 

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#6 Bread_or_Decide
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Come on down folks.

Show me what ya got.

Nintendo first party is supposed to be the best ever. What happened?

Metroid and Zelda achieved AAA what happened to the rest?

 

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#7 snakeofsolid
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that was the past, this is the present, lets just see how it turns out.
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#8 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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GS underrated MK: DD and to a lesser extent, SSBM. That's pretty obvious.
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#9 TheOneMan
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This thread is made of suck and retard
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#10 solidsnakeEx3
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I didn't know that AAA titles were all that counted, or that games could change in quality with each iteration :o 
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#11 mtcoola
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So good games are now only AAA?
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#12 phatkav
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Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention?
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#13 Bread_or_Decide
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Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

 

wavedash101

So you brought up Sony.....okay not sure why you did.

Then you brought up sales...not sure why you did that either.

Sheep say..NINTENDO # 1 FIRST PARTY...well what happened with these games on the Cube?

 

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#14 Bread_or_Decide
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This thread is made of suck and retardTheOneMan

Can you give me a percentage on those?

Right now this is the best response to my query. Thats pretty sad.

 

 

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Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? phatkav

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

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bu bu bu teh wii is NEXT GEN!!Anxz
Non-Sequiter? >_>
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#17 TheOneMan
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[QUOTE="wavedash101"]

Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

 

Bread_or_Decide

So you brought up Sony.....okay not sure why you did.

Then you brought up sales...not sure why you did that either.

Sheep say..NINTENDO # 1 FIRST PARTY...well what happened with these games on the Cube?

 

Maybe because GS didn't like the last incarnations of those franchises.  It's also pretty cheap to pick on SSBM just because it was one point off from AAA status.  It is greatly improved over the original, and so is MK: DD.  Can't say the same for the others.

Also, good job on reaching 1000 posts. 

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[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? Bread_or_Decide

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

Now you are ask the impossible...especially since AAA is an opinion....you can never ever please all of the people all of the time...its universal law and you are putting unfair expectations on Nintendo...or any dev if you expect AAA OPINIONS every time...

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[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? Bread_or_Decide

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

 

So name a developer who has ALL AAA games then....and also,you're saying you don't have fun with AA or below games..?

 

 

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#20 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="wavedash101"]

Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

 

TheOneMan

So you brought up Sony.....okay not sure why you did.

Then you brought up sales...not sure why you did that either.

Sheep say..NINTENDO # 1 FIRST PARTY...well what happened with these games on the Cube?

 

Maybe because GS didn't like the last incarnations of those franchises.  It's also pretty cheap to pick on SSBM just because it was one point off from AAA status.  It is greatly improved over the original, and so is MK: DD.  Can't say the same for the others.

Also, good job on reaching 1000 posts. 

Thanks!!

Well system war rules are rules. I wonder what it was like when SSBM scored an 8.9. Must've been nuts.

 

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[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? Bread_or_Decide

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

Super Smash Bros. Melee - 8.9

Paper Mario: The Thousand year Door - 9.1

Super Mario Sunshine - 8

ANimal Crossing - 8.1

Metroid Prime - 9.7

Metroid Prime 2 - 9.1

I see good titles in here.  

 

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Think about this: SSBM was 1.4 points above SSB, and MK: DD was 1.3 points above MK64. If this scoring continues as you seem to think it will, then the Wii versions of these games will be 10 and 9.0 respectively.

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#23 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? wavedash101

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

Now you are ask the impossible...especially since AAA is an opinion....you can never ever please all of the people all of the time...its universal law and you are putting unfair expectations on Nintendo...or any dev if you expect AAA OPINIONS every time...

Perhaps I am being unfair. But the way some sheep talk about Nintendo...well you would think otherwise.

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#24 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? phatkav

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

Super Smash Bros. Melee - 8.9

Paper Mario: The Thousand year Door - 9.1

Super Mario Sunshine - 8

ANimal Crossing - 8.1

Metroid Prime - 9.7

Metroid Prime 2 - 9.1

I see good titles in here.  

 

Yeah Metroid and Zelda walked away pretty good. Paper Mario stood strong. And lets throw a dog a bone...Smash Bros. managed to outscore its N64 counterpart.

The rest crumbled. You can't ignore that.

 

 

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#25 Bread_or_Decide
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Think about this: SSBM was 1.4 points above SSB, and MK: DD was 1.3 points above MK64. If this scoring continues as you seem to think it will, then the Wii versions of these games will be 10 and 9.0 respectively.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

We'll have to wait and see anything is possible.

 

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[QUOTE="phatkav"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? Bread_or_Decide

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

Super Smash Bros. Melee - 8.9

Paper Mario: The Thousand year Door - 9.1

Super Mario Sunshine - 8

ANimal Crossing - 8.1

Metroid Prime - 9.7

Metroid Prime 2 - 9.1

I see good titles in here.  

 

Yeah Metroid and Zelda walked away pretty good. Paper Mario stood strong. And lets throw a dog a bone...Smash Bros. managed to outscore its N64 counterpart.

The rest crumbled. You can't ignore that.

 

 

And I suppose all 1st party Sony and Microsoft games were AAA?

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#27 Can-o-Mark
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Yeah people, listen to the man. These games suck, because they didnt get a 9.

There are only 3 rankings on gamespot:

AAAA: 10/Perfect
AAA - 9.0-9.9/Awesome
Less than AAA - Crap
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#28 Homesrfan
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I don't understand this thread at all.
I do agree that Nintendo makes some of the best games, and the scores do show it, but not every game is going to get an AAA, from GameSpot... and who cares. Since when does GameSpot = gods of video games... They certainly aren't.

EDIT: I also like tons of other games not from Nintendo, but Nintendo games are my favorite.

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#29 mtcoola
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

Think about this: SSBM was 1.4 points above SSB, and MK: DD was 1.3 points above MK64. If this scoring continues as you seem to think it will, then the Wii versions of these games will be 10 and 9.0 respectively.

Bread_or_Decide

We'll have to wait and see anything is possible.

 

 

Final Fantasy X-2 (PS2) 8.1

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) 8.7

Bully 8.7

 

 

LOL TEH SONY 3rd partay that is teh best lolzz these good developers don't get AAA on all theri gamez! 

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#30 Flipnblack
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AA = garbage, you n00bs need to understand this if you're going to play games :roll:
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#31 -The-G-Man-
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Gamespot's score does not determine how good the game is.  Countless other sources gave some of those games AAA.
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#32 hamstergeddon
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AA = garbage, you n00bs need to understand this if you're going to play games :roll:Flipnblack
Exactly, Flipnback  "OH NOES!!!!!   TEH NINTENDO GAMEZ ONLY GOT TEH AA!!!! :o  PANIC!!!!!!!:cry:"  Seriously, TC, at least find some better material to bash the Wii with
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Yeah people, listen to the man. These games suck, because they didnt get a 9.

There are only 3 rankings on gamespot:

AAAA: 10/Perfect
AAA - 9.0-9.9/Awesome
Less than AAA - CrapCan-o-Mark
Man... I've played a lot of crap over the years...
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#34 Flipnblack
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[QUOTE="Can-o-Mark"]Yeah people, listen to the man. These games suck, because they didnt get a 9.

There are only 3 rankings on gamespot:

AAAA: 10/Perfect
AAA - 9.0-9.9/Awesome
Less than AAA - Crapmattbbpl
Man... I've played a lot of crap over the years...

Me too, crap is the best :D
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#35 SemiMaster
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I don't care about the other games.

Super Smash Bros Melee got robbed, plain and simple. 

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#36 Anxz
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Yeah people, listen to the man. These games suck, because they didnt get a 9.

There are only 3 rankings on gamespot:

AAAA: 10/Perfect
AAA - 9.0-9.9/Awesome
Less than AAA - CrapCan-o-Mark

I disagree with that. Some of the best games I played were AA. 

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#37 axt113
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Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

Bread_or_Decide
So a Game that isn't AAA can't be fun?
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This thread is made of suck and retardTheOneMan
:D I lauged really hard at this :D
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#39 t2wave
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I donno about Adventures or F-Zero but I liked the rest. Then again I never did let review scores effect how I liked a game.
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#40 Kev_Unreal
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Super Smash Bros.

 

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you dare to talk about SSBM score?:|

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#41 enduin
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Its really sad if your definition of good games is dictated by a simple and meaningless system that only has definite value here on System Wars. GS is God here, but just because its reviewers gave a game AA instead of AAA does not mean it isnt fun or its sequel shouldnt be awaited upon with excitement. Any real gamer will say they have played AAA games theyve disliked and A even lower games they have loved. Scores are not the be all and end all, they are an opinion, sometimes they match up with player's preferences sometimes they dont. Its always relative.
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Its really sad if your definition of good games is dictated by a simple and meaningless system that only has definite value here on System Wars. GS is God here, but just because its reviewers gave a game AA instead of AAA does not mean it isnt fun or its sequel shouldnt be awaited upon with excitement.

Any real gamer will say they have played AAA games theyve disliked and A even lower games they have loved. Scores are not the be all and end all, they are an opinion, sometimes they match up with player's preferences sometimes they dont. Its always relative.enduin
I can think of many AA games on GS that are better than AAA games *cough compare LoZ:TP to PDZero cough*
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YOU DARE SPEAK POORLY OF SSBM AND F-ZERO GX?!
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So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

 

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So if a game does not get a 9+ its not worth buying? Oh boy thats a new one on me

 

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#46 mojito1988
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So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

 

Bread_or_Decide

Best? I would never say that Nintendo is the best. I would say that nintendo is the best developer that also happens to make the top hardware in the industry and posts the highest profits every quarter in gaming. (humm maybe that does make them the best now that you mention it lol)

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#47 TyrantDragon55
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Come on down folks.

Show me what ya got.

Nintendo first party is supposed to be the best ever. What happened?

Metroid and Zelda achieved AAA what happened to the rest?

 

Bread_or_Decide

No one is perfect.

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#48 Silent_Bob32
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So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

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Why is the best developer expected to create AAA scoring games on Gamespot every time? How is that even possible? The fact reamins that Nintendo manages to consistantly release quality games, be they AA or AAA, whereas others cannot or have not over the same period of time Nintendo has been around.
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So if a game does not get a 9+ its not worth buying? Oh boy thats a new one on me

 

mojito1988

I don't have money to waste on anything but the best games.

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#50 Synchro456
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So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

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Eh so if Nintendo doesn't make every game AAA they are considered to be mediorce?