How do sheep explain all the first party Gamecube titled that failed to get AAA?

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#51 Hoffgod
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[QUOTE="mojito1988"]

So if a game does not get a 9+ its not worth buying? Oh boy thats a new one on me

 

Bread_or_Decide

I don't have money to waste on anything but the best games.

Ironically, buying the "best games" means you miss out on some of the best games. But hey, if you'd rather buy Perfect Dark Zero than Dead Rising... go right ahead.
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#52 karicha9
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Starved for attention, I see.
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#53 Bread_or_Decide
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Starved for attention, I see.karicha9

Thank you for noticing!

 

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#54 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="wavedash101"]

Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

Bread_or_Decide

So you brought up Sony.....okay not sure why you did.

Then you brought up sales...not sure why you did that either.

Sheep say..NINTENDO # 1 FIRST PARTY...well what happened with these games on the Cube?

brawl is better imo then almost all sony's and microsoft's first partygames
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#55 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="mojito1988"]

So if a game does not get a 9+ its not worth buying? Oh boy thats a new one on me

 

Hoffgod

I don't have money to waste on anything but the best games.


Ironically, buying the "best games" means you miss out on some of the best games.
But hey, if you'd rather buy Perfect Dark Zero than Dead Rising... go right ahead.

Both those games were awesome and should have got AAA

His point is that Nintendo's 1st gen didn't do as well last year as they have done in the past, thats it. 

 

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#56 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="wavedash101"]

Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

 

Microsoft1234

So you brought up Sony.....okay not sure why you did.

Then you brought up sales...not sure why you did that either.

Sheep say..NINTENDO # 1 FIRST PARTY...well what happened with these games on the Cube?

 



brawl is better imo then almost all sony's and microsoft's first partygames

 

brawl isn't even out yet you newb. 

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#57 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="wavedash101"]

Same could be said for lots of Sony party parties too...yet not being AA didnt stop MK: DD or SSBM from selling tons of systems...or garnering tons of acclaim...some of the best games of all time didnt get AAA here, just look at Gamespot's greatest games of all time list >_>

 

Bread_or_Decide

So you brought up Sony.....okay not sure why you did.

Then you brought up sales...not sure why you did that either.

Sheep say..NINTENDO # 1 FIRST PARTY...well what happened with these games on the Cube?

 

They won 2 GOTY awards on Gamespot that's what happened. 

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#58 Blackbond
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So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

 

Bread_or_Decide

Name another dev that had two GOTY's last gen. 

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#59 tocool340
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Almost the same reason as nearly every MGS game on the PS2 didn't game AAA score.
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#60 camzaman
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Come on down folks.

Show me what ya got.

Nintendo first party is supposed to be the best ever. What happened?

Metroid and Zelda achieved AAA what happened to the rest?

 

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Gamespot didn't like them as much as everyone else on the planet, whoopdedoo.
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#61 camzaman
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

 

mojito1988

Best? I would never say that Nintendo is the best. I would say that nintendo is the best developer that also happens to make the top hardware in the industry and posts the highest profits every quarter in gaming. (humm maybe that does make them the best now that you mention it lol)

Accidentally pwnd!
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#62 FireEmblem_Man
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So by your logic a game that scored AA can't improve for the next sequal??? Explain the scores of Morrowind and Oblivion!!!

BTW this thread shows how shallow you are when it comes to games and there scores!!! What if Halo 3, Mass Effect, and/or Forza didn't score AAA???

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#63 tocool340
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So by your logic a game that scored AA can't improve for the next sequal??? Explain the scores of Morrowind and Oblivion!!!

BTW this thread shows how shallow you are when it comes to games and there scores!!! What if Halo 3, Mass Effect, and/or Forza didn't score AAA???

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Easy. Devil May Cry 1 to Devil may cry 2. MGS series also is in a hold. Then you got Twilight Princess..............
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#64 StealthSting
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You forgot about Zelda................... ICO and SOTC got less then GoW and yet I liked them more then GoW. MGS the original got less then SoL and yet I liked it more then SoL. FF12 and FF10 got 9.0 + (for a lot of reasons, I'm still wondering why) and yet there were dozens of RPG's this gen alone that didn't even achieve such a score and lets just say I liked them a hole lot better then both those titles. How are we supposed to get excited about them? What if I told you that most of the games I loved last gen didn't even got to more then 9.0+.
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#65 Kalel559
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Games are really only graded on a single player experience and they tack a few extra points on for multiplayer. That's why party games score low. Realistically they have the higher, if not infinite, replay value but require more players.
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#66 Laughlin_12
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Why even talk about Gamecube? The Wii is here.
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#67 coltonnaslund
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look on other sites....they prettymuch ALL got AAA
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#68 Shadow_Link50
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[QUOTE="phatkav"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="phatkav"]Wait a munite, AA games are now horrible games that no one should mention? Bread_or_Decide

If Nintendo is the best developer there is then shouldn't all of their most important franchises be AAA? I mean if you are buying a console simply for their games is that not too much to ask?

 

Super Smash Bros. Melee - 8.9

Paper Mario: The Thousand year Door - 9.1

Super Mario Sunshine - 8

ANimal Crossing - 8.1

Metroid Prime - 9.7

Metroid Prime 2 - 9.1

I see good titles in here.  

 

Yeah Metroid and Zelda walked away pretty good. Paper Mario stood strong. And lets throw a dog a bone...Smash Bros. managed to outscore its N64 counterpart.

The rest crumbled. You can't ignore that.

 

 

Sunshine, yes... but Animal Crossing was a new IP, not a major franchise.
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#69 luigigreen
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So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

Bread_or_Decide
It's like you completly ignored all the posts that owned you. Oh wait, silly mean. I mean you did, instead of "like".
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#70 luigigreen
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Games are really only graded on a single player experience and they tack a few extra points on for multiplayer. That's why party games score low. Realistically they have the higher, if not infinite, replay value but require more players. Kalel559
How about Warioware?
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#72 AntiType
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Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

Bread_or_Decide

Did you actually play these games and are arguing their quality?... or are you just looking at the score based on a single web-site (useless) opinion of some games youve never played before?

I would only argue with someone who has made up their own mind... and is not some dim media slave. 

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#73 Nintendo_Man
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Forget the GS reviews, look at the average score for all sites:

SSBM: 9.0

SM Sunshine: 9.2

MK DS: 8.7

F-Zero GX: 8.9

 

There you go, GS underated them all by quite a bit except for SSBM.

 

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#74 midnite_toker22
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metal gear solid

usually regarded as the best ps1 game

scored an 8.5 on gamespot

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#75 Timstuff
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Super Mario Sunshine was pretty fun, but it still kind of sucked in a lot of ways. The only one of Gamespot's scores for the games the TC mentioned that I'd disagree with was Smash Bros. Melee, because I feel it should have gotten a 9.0. However, all of the other games mentioned had some pretty glaring annoyances that kept them from deserving AAA scores.
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#76 thegame458
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I don't think what gamespot rates a game by means that it really is that bad or good. Thats why I never judge systems by gamespot scores. Such as if GTA 4 or Assassins Creed gets a AA, im not gonna call them a flop, because to many other people, those games might be awesome.
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#78 TNT_Slug
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Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

Bread_or_Decide
Are you kidding me? Nintendo got 2 out of 5 GOTY awards on the Gamecube while it was alive. A 3rd GOTY went to Resident Evil 4 ON THE GC TOO. Why wouldn't be excited by these prospects?
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#79 Optusnet
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SSBM and F-Zero ARE AAA titles IMO.

I'm sick of this thinking that AA or even A games are bad. Get a freaking (preferbly unbiased) opinion you idiotic faboys! 

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#80 ArisShadows
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So you telling me one of what I considered the best on PS2 was a 8.7, that right Shadow of Colossus. Then we got Kingdom Hearts II. MGS3.. So many great titles underrated?
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#81 Fick1122
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What? Yes, many people believe Nintendo has the best first party games, but just because not every game was AAA means they aren't good developers? Let me ask you this. What developer is better than Nintendo, even last gen in the GC era? Because I don't see any big developers getting all AAA here on Gamespot. Star Fox and Mario were the only two first party games that were listed that scored lower than their previous-gen games..
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#82 AsakuraHao2004
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i really don't care  how gamespot rates their games anymore.i just use gamerankings.if i just go by with what gamespot say then its a biased opinion seeing as it is rated by one person (LOZ:TP).After that jeff gerstman debacle, people kept yelling in my ear 8.8!!!all those Nintendo games you mentioned are a lot of fun.
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#83 Wanderer5
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1) GS underrated Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros Melee, Mario Kart: DD.

2) So A and AA games are not great and fun?

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#84 Can-o-Mark
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[QUOTE="Can-o-Mark"]Yeah people, listen to the man. These games suck, because they didnt get a 9.

There are only 3 rankings on gamespot:

AAAA: 10/Perfect
AAA - 9.0-9.9/Awesome
Less than AAA - CrapAnxz

I disagree with that. Some of the best games I played were AA. 



I wasnt being serious.
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#85 Arnalion
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Starfox Adventures was made by Rare and F-Zero by Sega...
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#86 dave003
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

So the "best" developer isn't really the best at all it seems.

luigigreen
It's like you completly ignored all the posts that owned you. Oh wait, silly mean. I mean you did, instead of "like".

This is so difficult to understand. I mean, I know what you are saying, but it took me a good minute to figure out the second and third sentence. And your re-appropriation of "like" and "did" makes the first sentence not make sense. I'm not one to point out grammatical errors, but I just found it funny how you changed a completely correct sentence into something not understandable -- "It's did you completely ignored all the posts that owned you." ...You are right though.
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#87 SolidTy
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Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

Bread_or_Decide

Nintendo 1st party games are ALWAYS AAA to Sheep, NO MATTER WHAT. Even Mario Party, Custom Robo, and Wario Ware. AAA. No exceptions. That's how their hearts work. 

No Magazine, Site, article, will sway them. 

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#88 Wahoo2k
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Gamespot underrated SSBM imo.
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#89 coreygames
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What was the lowest scoring first party title last gen. then?
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#90 Riviera_Phantom
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Gamespot underrated SSBM imo.Wahoo2k
SSBM was GC's biggest, best selling and most popular game.
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#91 Riviera_Phantom
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

SolidTy

Nintendo 1st party games are ALWAYS AAA to Sheep, NO MATTER WHAT. Even Mario Party, Custom Robo, and Wario Ware. AAA. No exceptions. That's how their hearts work.

No Magazine, Site, article, will sway them.

Sorry but i used to be a hardcore sheep last gen and Mario Party is crap and Custom Robo? are you joking?
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#92 hyruledweller
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Wow...some people...
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#93 Nex_Ownage
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Simple. I couldn't careless about what GS thinks. :)
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#94 wavebrid
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reviews = Opioion and its not a fact
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#95 Dr_Corndog
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Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

Bread_or_Decide
Some games aren't as good as others. Amazing, but true.
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#96 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

Riviera_Phantom

Nintendo 1st party games are ALWAYS AAA to Sheep, NO MATTER WHAT. Even Mario Party, Custom Robo, and Wario Ware. AAA. No exceptions. That's how their hearts work.

No Magazine, Site, article, will sway them.



Sorry but i used to be a hardcore sheep last gen and Mario Party is crap and Custom Robo? are you joking?

 

Well, you're one of the rare SHEEP with Taste.

*Looks at Sig*

Actually, this is the case, since you have Kratos from Sony's God of War in your Sig, and an Xbox Live sig as well.
You have learned what I learned, Nintendo can't keep you happy by themselves, you crave more...like me.

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#97 beinss
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lol what the heck is AAA? that only came up a couple monthes ago. Ive been on these forums for years and only until recently did people being to use AAA and AA and whatever. No one can deny the fact that people played with Double Dash much more than the "AAA" games on the 360 now a days. Man this annoys me, newer gamers thing its all about reviews and graphics. its about the fun, if you dont have fun then your just staring at a screen...
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#98 rpg9000owner
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I have a feeling that capcom contributed more to the system, just my opinon.
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#99 FireEmblem_Man
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventure, F-Zero,Super Smash Bros.

These are some very key first party franchises and none of them managed to get a 9 at gamespot.

How are we supposed to get excited for these games on the Wii if they couldn't cut in the Cube?

Discuss.

 

SolidTy

Nintendo 1st party games are ALWAYS AAA to Sheep, NO MATTER WHAT. Even Mario Party, Custom Robo, and Wario Ware. AAA. No exceptions. That's how their hearts work. 

No Magazine, Site, article, will sway them. 

That also goes by Sony fans with Sony's first party titles and Microsoft fans with their first party titles!!!!

But overall you have to admit, Nintendo do tend to make great games although they may not be always AAA but they're always fun to play

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#100 hazbazz
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Do you only play games that get 9s? I feel kinda sorry for you