How do you spend the $5 bucks a month NOT paying for XBL.

The point is not that it is expensive, it isn't. The point is that you are paying for nothing. You are being charged to be used as a server. I could understand if MS had their own dedicated servers for every game, and the fee was for up keep, but this is not the case.They don't give you anything for free but Demo's, and pictures most people don't want anyway. Then they charge you for everything else on there, and the prices are kind of high seeing as how you are already paying for the service. The main reason for XBOX Live is playing games. PC its free, PS3 its free, why is MS charging? Silver accounts can't do squat. IMO MS should charge if you want to download movies, and TV shows, and buy games etc..., but online play should be free. People talk about MS giving choices with their Console, well Live doesn't really give many options. Either you pay the price, or you don't get squat.

I don't want to hear ease of use or anything like that cause PS3 and PC online is plenty easy to use and its free.

mazdero

Try getting one dedicated server for $50 a year. It's more like over $50.00 a month for one dedicated server rental.Tracking all those stats for the millions of Xbox players cannot be cheap.

£3.33 in the UK i save.

That gets you sod all really.....

I can get a pack of rolling tabbaco for it. Some Polish Beer or maybe a Bus fare, a pint in a pub. Thats it...

The point is not that it is expensive, it isn't. The point is that you are paying for nothing. You are being charged to be used as a server. I could understand if MS had their own dedicated servers for every game, and the fee was for up keep, but this is not the case.They don't give you anything for free but Demo's, and pictures most people don't want anyway. Then they charge you for everything else on there, and the prices are kind of high seeing as how you are already paying for the service. The main reason for XBOX Live is playing games. PC its free, PS3 its free, why is MS charging? Silver accounts can't do squat. IMO MS should charge if you want to download movies, and TV shows, and buy games etc..., but online play should be free. People talk about MS giving choices with their Console, well Live doesn't really give many options. Either you pay the price, or you don't get squat.

I don't want to hear ease of use or anything like that cause PS3 and PC online is plenty easy to use and its free.

mazdero

PC online games:

1) The servers are hosted by people with money out of kindness

2) They are owned by companys such as gamespy, who have lots of ads on the servers to cover costs.

3) The servers are private and only a select ammount of people can use them

soon xbl will be free, but wile its not. I'm not paying xD

Since XBL is so expensive :roll: Heres some of the 5 bucks I've been spending in place of Halo 3 online:

A pack of ciggarettes
a six pack of beer
a meal at KFC
taxi cab fare
1 2-liter Pepsi and a bag of Dorritos
A tip to my Barber
***CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATOR***
A parking place
2 Slices of Pizza
1 shot of Patron

How DO YOU spend all that money you saved? List them.

Blue-Sky

I pay 49.99 for 13 months and most of that crap you listed will kill you, XBL don't hurt nobody.

[QUOTE="mazdero"]

The point is not that it is expensive, it isn't. The point is that you are paying for nothing. You are being charged to be used as a server. I could understand if MS had their own dedicated servers for every game, and the fee was for up keep, but this is not the case.They don't give you anything for free but Demo's, and pictures most people don't want anyway. Then they charge you for everything else on there, and the prices are kind of high seeing as how you are already paying for the service. The main reason for XBOX Live is playing games. PC its free, PS3 its free, why is MS charging? Silver accounts can't do squat. IMO MS should charge if you want to download movies, and TV shows, and buy games etc..., but online play should be free. People talk about MS giving choices with their Console, well Live doesn't really give many options. Either you pay the price, or you don't get squat.

I don't want to hear ease of use or anything like that cause PS3 and PC online is plenty easy to use and its free.

toxicmog

PC online games:

1) The servers are hosted by people with money out of kindness

2) They are owned by companys such as gamespy, who have lots of ads on the servers to cover costs.

3) The servers are private and only a select ammount of people can use them

soon xbl will be free, but wile its not. I'm not paying xD

PC online and PSN is paid for by advertisments which is why they suck so much.

Instead of paying £40 a year for something that should be free, I can buy another game.SolidSnake35

And yet lots people get stuff from their parents, are you one of them people?

MS should give 2 months of LIVE for every first party game you purchaseAwinagainov

that would be a good idea actually.

Skittles and beer.SmashBrosLegend

A box of Trojan brand condoms (12-pack) is $5. Make love a dozen extra times per month, or game on LIVE. Microsoft's really going to have to up the ante, I think.subrosian

[QUOTE="mazdero"]

The point is not that it is expensive, it isn't. The point is that you are paying for nothing. You are being charged to be used as a server. I could understand if MS had their own dedicated servers for every game, and the fee was for up keep, but this is not the case.They don't give you anything for free but Demo's, and pictures most people don't want anyway. Then they charge you for everything else on there, and the prices are kind of high seeing as how you are already paying for the service. The main reason for XBOX Live is playing games. PC its free, PS3 its free, why is MS charging? Silver accounts can't do squat. IMO MS should charge if you want to download movies, and TV shows, and buy games etc..., but online play should be free. People talk about MS giving choices with their Console, well Live doesn't really give many options. Either you pay the price, or you don't get squat.

I don't want to hear ease of use or anything like that cause PS3 and PC online is plenty easy to use and its free.

DucksBrains

And this is what most people don't seem to get, or try to avoid. The problem of XBOX Live charging money isn't the price itself but the principle in charging for a service that should be free in the first place.

I'd like to further the theme of both of these posts.

$5.00 a month is not much money at all, is it?

So the question I put out there is this:

If we can all agree that $5.00 is a negligable amount of money, and no one should be complaining about it, then why on earth is the richest corporation in the world charging this small amount of money for a "service" that other gamers get for free?

Since XBL is so expensive :roll: Heres some of the 5 bucks I've been spending in place of Halo 3 online:

A pack of ciggarettes
a six pack of beer
a meal at KFC
taxi cab fare
1 2-liter Pepsi and a bag of Dorritos
A tip to my Barber
***CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATOR***
A parking place
2 Slices of Pizza
1 shot of Patron

How DO YOU spend all that money you saved? List them.

Blue-Sky

So you are saying all you would have to do is give up that short list of crap and you could have played on XBL?

If you had, you would be a thinner, non-smoke smelling sober guy with a bad haircut.

$2.00 = I can get a vietnames 1 foot sandwish(lunch)
$2.50 = I can get chinese takeout. 2 selection on top of rice. (dinner)
$0.50 = soda machine.
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$5.00 total

Why do people always break it down to how much it costs per month and per week....THAT IS NOT AN OPTION when you go to purchase XBL. its a $50 shot all at once.Uptown

The same reason that infomercials break your purchase of the Ron Popeil Hair Trimmer down into just three easy payments of $29.99 - because idiots have a hard time grasping that 10 payments of $10 is the same as one payment of $100. LIVE defenders try and divide out the cost per-day so it seems insignificant, without ever addressing that they're paying $50 a year for a "service" that they're hosting (as it's P2P). They're literally paying for *nothing*.

In any case, unfortunately we're never going to see cost addressed accurately on these forums, whether it's because of the comfort of self-deception or because people here believe their opinion supersedes fact, it doesn't ever seem to happen.

It may sound crazy, but I pay for Xbox live because of the online community and to play with all the friends I have both IRL who own an Xbox 360 and the ones I've met over Xbox Live last generation.

[QUOTE="Uptown"]Why do people always break it down to how much it costs per month and per week....THAT IS NOT AN OPTION when you go to purchase XBL. its a $50 shot all at once.subrosian

The same reason that infomercials break your purchase of the Ron Popeil Hair Trimmer down into just three easy payments of $29.99 - because idiots have a hard time grasping that 10 payments of $10 is the same as one payment of $100. LIVE defenders try and divide out the cost per-day so it seems insignificant, without ever addressing that they're paying $50 a year for a "service" that they're hosting (as it's P2P). They're literally paying for *nothing*.

In any case, unfortunately we're never going to see cost addressed accurately on these forums, whether it's because of the comfort of self-deception or because people here believe their opinion supersedes fact, it doesn't ever seem to happen.

Hrm... I've always felt like $50/Year seemedlike less then $5/Month.

Yet in the UK PS3 games are $10 more than their 360 counterpart.Sheepdisease

geez that sucks. it makes you wonder what that means then..

[QUOTE="Sheepdisease"]Yet in the UK PS3 games are $10 more than their 360 counterpart.BTBAM127

geez that sucks. it makes you wonder what that means then..

That's how they got the 40gig down to $400. They are making the brits pay for the lost $$.

[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

I have 10 great games for my PS3 not to mention the 12+ downloaded ones I own too. Not sure what you're talking about, you must not play games often or something. NP, I understand.

RotaryRX7

nice to hear,any AAAE?....didnt think so.:lol:

If you only confine yourself to GameSpot as the'reviewer of all reviewers'which is completely ignorant. :lol:

Now, step out of the bubble and look at other websites, the answer is yes.

The PS3 doesn't have any AAAE games on GameRankings either.

A pack of ciggarettesBlue-Sky

I spend that $5 getting my self out of the debt i created when i bought a PSP i couldn't afford.

Cryin about $5, plz, go get a job.

Kaycm117

Hey man $5 is a big MONEY if you ask me. especially if you went to other countries.

What kind of bum would cry about 5$ a month?Kritical_Strike

That is so not the point...:|

Dont understand how ps3 not having a AAAE hurts or help anyone. Its still selling. I guess its just another reason fanboys deny they aren't fanboys. Anyways Its more like how do you spend that 50 dollars a year?

lol I think $50 in troja... is better than xbl.

What kind of bum would cry about 5$ a month?Kritical_Strike

[QUOTE="mazdero"]

The point is not that it is expensive, it isn't. The point is that you are paying for nothing. You are being charged to be used as a server. I could understand if MS had their own dedicated servers for every game, and the fee was for up keep, but this is not the case.They don't give you anything for free but Demo's, and pictures most people don't want anyway. Then they charge you for everything else on there, and the prices are kind of high seeing as how you are already paying for the service. The main reason for XBOX Live is playing games. PC its free, PS3 its free, why is MS charging? Silver accounts can't do squat. IMO MS should charge if you want to download movies, and TV shows, and buy games etc..., but online play should be free. People talk about MS giving choices with their Console, well Live doesn't really give many options. Either you pay the price, or you don't get squat.

I don't want to hear ease of use or anything like that cause PS3 and PC online is plenty easy to use and its free.

Deihmos

Try getting one dedicated server for $50 a year. It's more like over $50.00 a month for one dedicated server rental.Tracking all those stats for the millions of Xbox players cannot be cheap.

well put sir.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Since XBL is so expensive :roll: Heres some of the 5 bucks I've been spending in place of Halo 3 online:

A pack of ciggarettes
a six pack of beer
a meal at KFC
taxi cab fare
1 2-liter Pepsi and a bag of Dorritos
A tip to my Barber
***CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATOR***
A parking place
2 Slices of Pizza
1 shot of Patron

How DO YOU spend all that money you saved? List them.

Geek_Speak101

I pay 49.99 for 13 months and most of that crap you listed will kill you, XBL don't hurt nobody.

lol anything can kill youo nowadays.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Using my $5 I can fly to France and back six times. So, six trips to France, or getting yelled at in French on XBL. Hmm....RotaryRX7

I didn't know Flight Simulator charges you for flights to France.

lol ;)

:lol: @ your sig...that's one of the most original ones I've seen in a long time.

What kind of bum would cry about 5$ a month?Kritical_Strike

the same one that cries about $15?

[QUOTE="Art_424"]lol...crying over $5 bucks thread,again!:cry:, the satisfaction I get from playing on XBL last longer than all listed in this thread.:lol:RotaryRX7

Must be really satisfying to pay $50 a year and then also have to pay for pictures and themes....lol

Must suck to lead a life where the picture on your video game system matters

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]What kind of bum would cry about 5$ a month?BuryMe

$5 for an individual is not much to pay for one month. However, multiply that $5 by every LIVE user and you have quite a sum of money.

I do admit that M$ is totally capable of running LIVE for free, but that's another matter.

Must suck to lead a life where the picture on your video game system matters

shadow8585

so you agree with him.

[QUOTE="mazdero"]

The point is not that it is expensive, it isn't. The point is that you are paying for nothing. You are being charged to be used as a server. I could understand if MS had their own dedicated servers for every game, and the fee was for up keep, but this is not the case.They don't give you anything for free but Demo's, and pictures most people don't want anyway. Then they charge you for everything else on there, and the prices are kind of high seeing as how you are already paying for the service. The main reason for XBOX Live is playing games. PC its free, PS3 its free, why is MS charging? Silver accounts can't do squat. IMO MS should charge if you want to download movies, and TV shows, and buy games etc..., but online play should be free. People talk about MS giving choices with their Console, well Live doesn't really give many options. Either you pay the price, or you don't get squat.

I don't want to hear ease of use or anything like that cause PS3 and PC online is plenty easy to use and its free.

DucksBrains

And this is what most people don't seem to get, or try to avoid. The problem of XBOX Live charging money isn't the price itself but the principle in charging for a service that should be free in the first place.

Why should the service be free???? Not everything on the internet is free, there are website that cost money to look at then there are places people can get the same thing for free. But usually when you pay for something you get what you want with no fuss or hassle. (yeah I know usually that's porn if you can think of anything else feel free to add)

My cousin has a PS3 and he is going to be going out of town for 2 months and I will be keeping his PS3 while he is gone:D I've asked him before how he likes PSN he said it's good but can have very bad connection and lag. But since I'll be getting his for a while I'll check it out and give it my honest opinion because I have been thinking about getting a PS3 too. Even though it seem kinda pointless because I love my 360 soooo much. I don't care about Blu-Ray nor did I care about HD movies I just like gaming.

Why do people always break it down to how much it costs per month and per week....THAT IS NOT AN OPTION when you go to purchase XBL. its a $50 shot all at once.Uptown

Actually you do have the option of buying it for 1 month or 3 months at a time. Maybe 6 months as well.