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#101 iandizion713
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@aigis: Its alright, no need for Atlus to go crazy with budget on a Wii U game. They dont even do that for PS4 and its got a ton of sales.

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#102 silversix_
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A true sheep, those that know nothing else but what's made by Nintendo, will buy anything with the Nintendo sticker on the box. Nintendo is simply milking those dumbasses, for decades.

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#104  Edited By aigis
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@iandizion713 said:

@aigis: Its alright, no need for Atlus to go crazy with budget on a Wii U game. They dont even do that for PS4 and its got a ton of sales.

Its not alright though, it comes off very poorly. It really just shows that Nintendo has no faith in the wii u anymore and dont care about the wii u owners. Saying ps4 does it doesnt make it better

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#105 nintendoboy16
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@silversix_ said:

A true sheep, those that know nothing else but what's made by Nintendo, will buy anything with the Nintendo sticker on the box. Nintendo is simply milking those dumbasses, for decades.

Yep, Xenoblade, Bayonetta 2, and Star Fox Zero have all been praised and sold well to... oh wait!

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#106 Blabadon
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@silversix_ said:

A true sheep, those that know nothing else but what's made by Nintendo, will buy anything with the Nintendo sticker on the box. Nintendo is simply milking those dumbasses, for decades.

Yep, Xenoblade, Bayonetta 2, and Star Fox Zero have all been praised and sold well to... oh wait!

hahahahahahahaha

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#107 bunchanumbers
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Doesn't matter. By the time its all said and done, a Wii U collection will be crazy valuable. In the end, it will end up being sold at a high profit.

Way to be optimistic and for my sake I do hope you are correct but I think it will only be certain games that increase in value rather than the entire kaboodle.

The console itself will be in good supply for quite a while. 12 or 13 million makes for a decent amount of consoles and taking into effect the stock not selling as well as those trying to dump their consoles, I don't see this sky rocketing for a while if ever.

It also depends on region. A complete Wii U collection in the UK will end up being worth more than a collection in Japan. Japan and the US have the highest number of Wii U consoles. So it will really depend on where you're collecting your games at. But historically I'm not concerned. In 10 years the whole thing will be worth more than I paid for it easily.

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#108 ButDuuude
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What I want to know is why we buy digital games for the same price as the physical version. I think digital should be cheaper.

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#109 AzatiS
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Because of their fans royalty and fanboyism. Thats why

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#110 panda30
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@Heirren said:

People see the quality. People know good games take years to make.

love how people always act like bad graphics = good gameplay

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#111 nintendoboy16
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@panda30 said:
@Heirren said:

People see the quality. People know good games take years to make.

love how people always act like bad graphics = good gameplay

What, and good graphics ensure good gameplay? Heh, no.

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#112  Edited By jcrame10
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@nintendoboy16: and then there's games with bad graphics and gameplay.

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#113 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@panda30:

Who said anything about graphics?

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#114  Edited By Sepewrath
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lol system wars is funny, just nonsensical ranting after nonsensical ranting. I mean you have to know nothing about games or subscribe to willful ignorance to question the quality of Nintendo titles.

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#115 Bigboi500
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@Sepewrath said:

lol system wars is funny, just nonsensical ranting after nonsensical ranting. I mean you have to know nothing about games or subscribe to willful ignorance to question the quality of Nintendo titles.

50% trolling 50% ignorance/fanboyism

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#116 Solaryellow
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@bunchanumbers said:

It also depends on region. A complete Wii U collection in the UK will end up being worth more than a collection in Japan. Japan and the US have the highest number of Wii U consoles. So it will really depend on where you're collecting your games at. But historically I'm not concerned. In 10 years the whole thing will be worth more than I paid for it easily.

Just so I understand correctly, in a decade the Wii U and corresponding software will be able to provide you with a large net profit? I'm in agreement if you buy most things used and on the cheap but to see a profit over the price of a newly purchased console is expecting a lot. People will be trying to unload this console for many years to come with the hopes of recouping some of their investment.

Out of curiosity why do I see online auctions for European versions (software) seemingly much cheaper than NA versions?

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#117 jcrame10
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@Bigboi500 said:
@Sepewrath said:

lol system wars is funny, just nonsensical ranting after nonsensical ranting. I mean you have to know nothing about games or subscribe to willful ignorance to question the quality of Nintendo titles.

50% trolling 50% ignorance/fanboyism

and, ironically enough, Nintendo is the one who trolled us all :/

oh well, at least I still have the youtube comments to sympathize with:

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#119 deactivated-57adcc01ab2b1
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lol SMT x FE is insulting.

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#120  Edited By iandizion713
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@panda30 said:

nintendo do good gameplay epecialy in pokemon but I must say they are the only ones that get away whit this

thats horible this is PLAYSTATION 2

I get the gameplay over graphics but come on that retarded any indi developer can make that look better whit out trying

Makes you wonder why they havnt. Ive seen games on Wii U look better then games on PS4. You can search all you want, but youll never find a game like Pokemon with better graphics and a better more creative world.

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#121 Bread_or_Decide
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for half assed games? Over and over again.

MMM, dat handshake at 2:20. LOL. Could their animations look any more cheap.

I understand how you Metroid fans feel, shitted on. Nintendo even lied to us FE fans and promised an awesome SMT x FE game years ago, before delaying it and turning it into this turd.

Anyhoo, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Devil's Third, Star Fox Zero, Fatal Frame V, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, etc are all low budget, low resources, and low effort yet they somehow get to charge 50, sometimes 60, for these type of titles. These type of games would never retail for those prices on any other platform. Ori and the Blind Forest had more polish than some full priced Nintendo releases this gen, and that game retailed for only 20 dollars.

I mean Tokyo Mirage Sessions isnt even going to have english voice acting for fucks sake, yet i saw this game advertised for 60 dollars at gamestop the other day. 60 dollars.

Games like these ones would generally say for 15, 20 or 30 dollars on xbox live marketplace or psn store, how does nintendo continuously get away with releasing low budget titles for full price? and their games dont drop at all, ever. mario tennis ultra smash is still 50 dollars brand new, you're telling me that game is still in high demand 8 months later? No way.

And Overwatch has the nerve to sell for $60 on consoles.

Such is the new gen. FYI Ultra Smash on amazon is $40 and I've seen it as low as $30 on certain occasions.

Nintendo games don't' drop at all, ever?

So I just imagined getting donkey kong tropical freeze for $20 from Nintendo Selects? I must have because they never drop their price, EVER.

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#122 jcrame10
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@Bread_or_Decide: you're a little late to the conversation

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#123 Bread_or_Decide
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@jcrame10 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: you're a little late to the conversation

“A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.”

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#124 Vaidream45
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Same way Ubisoft gets away with a yearly Ass Creed. Or the yearly CoD.

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#125 smashed_pinata
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@howmakewood said:
@Heirren said:

People see the quality. People know good games take years to make.

In what form does that clip present quality?

Game looks on par with Persona 5, dunno why you think it looks so horrid.

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#126  Edited By Desmonic  Moderator
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@Bread_or_Decide:

Did this wizard also arrive on time?

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#127 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@smashed_pinata:

You crazy. Starfox does not look like psp game

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#128 Bread_or_Decide
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lol, he arrived on time for the punch to the face.

@Desmonic said:

@Bread_or_Decide:

Did this wizard also arrive on time?

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#129 LegatoSkyheart
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I wouldn't consider Persona Emblem to be "low budget".

Those other games though you have a point. Hell The Zelda HD games shouldn't have been $60 but they were. I guess that's what happens when 3rd Parties aren't releasing things.

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#130 no-scope-AK47
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@Sepewrath said:

lol system wars is funny, just nonsensical ranting after nonsensical ranting. I mean you have to know nothing about games or subscribe to willful ignorance to question the quality of Nintendo titles.

Obviously the people have spoken with their wallets as to the quality of nintendo games. The hardware smdh even for console is horrible. The online platform is the worst. Shit they don't even have a hard drive. The graphics are again bad. Story or voice acting ???

Multi media again no DD/DTS or even a blu-ray player. No 3rd party support the list of negatives goes on and on. Yet the wii u cost the same as the x1 ?????

Only the most hardcore sheep would be able to overlook the many short comings of nintendo and purchase their product. Like many I was a sheep but nintendo has not keep pace with the market. Now the NX is launching in 2017 and it's not during the holiday season wtf is nintendo smoking. Marketing huh what marketing nobody has any NX game video or even solid intel.

Let's face it nintendo is fucking up badly.

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#131  Edited By SecretPolice
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Ye old fools and their mommy's money and all that jazz. :P

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#132  Edited By madsnakehhh
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@jcrame10 said:

I mean Tokyo Mirage Sessions isnt even going to have english voice acting for fucks sake...

How is that even a bad thing? english voice acting in most JRPG is beyond horrendous.

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#133 jg4xchamp
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Nintendo isn't the first, nor last publisher to think some of their shitty games should be valued more than they really should. They do a lot of shitty things, but pricing, eh, yeah they are terrible, but no worse than a shit load of other developers and publishers.

If TMS or whatever it is, actually had the gameplay for it, yeah I'd get over the pricing, because I give more of a **** if the game is good. Some of their other shit like say Captain Toad, and that's at a "budget" price, isn't even worth it at 40. It's fucking pathetic as a puzzle game, especially in comparison to The Witness and Stephen's Sausage Roll. Neither game, especially the latter would stack up favorably from a production value, but gameplay, it makes what Toad look like child's play. And gameplay is supposed to be the thing Nintendo sells me on.

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#134 Sepewrath
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@no-scope-AK47: No people commented on Nintendo's hardware choice and poor marketing of the system. Their games have a high attach rate and a high review scores. You commented on the games, not on the hardware, so why bring it up now? Second, you know nothing about the NX and how does not launching during the holiday season have anything to do with keeping pace with the market? If they don't have the games ready in November, then it would be idiotic to launch at that point. You say they are making bad choices, but then recommend they make one, just because that's the time of the year companies usually drop consoles. Lastly, why would they give a bunch of info about the system so the competition can counter it?

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#135 Ten_Pints
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I don't fully understand it either, they make Mario platformer games which are obliviously a lot less complicated to make than most games for example ratchet and clank but sell it full price. Baffles me.


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#136 jg4xchamp
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@madsnakehhh said:
@jcrame10 said:

I mean Tokyo Mirage Sessions isnt even going to have english voice acting for fucks sake...

How is that even a bad thing? english voice acting in most JRPG is beyond horrendous.

It kind of goes without saying that the solution isn't "drop it" as much as it's get better translators and better voice work for your game.

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#137  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@Sepewrath said:

@no-scope-AK47: No people commented on Nintendo's hardware choice and poor marketing of the system. Their games have a high attach rate and a high review scores. You commented on the games, not on the hardware, so why bring it up now? Second, you know nothing about the NX and how does not launching during the holiday season have anything to do with keeping pace with the market? If they don't have the games ready in November, then it would be idiotic to launch at that point. You say they are making bad choices, but then recommend they make one, just because that's the time of the year companies usually drop consoles. Lastly, why would they give a bunch of info about the system so the competition can counter it?

System Wars and their "love" (akin to Lois and Brian to Meg) for Nintendo in a nutshell.

Also, be careful of the "Nintendo games are only praised because it's Nintendo" bullshit. Nevermind that they (especially recently) have HAD panned games and were PANNED when they get games exclusive to their console (No, I have not forgotten Bayonetta 2's reveal and that 10/10 did **** all).