How exactly did the Xbox vs. PS3 bout start?

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#1 Armagadem
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I always hear people arguing about what's better PS3 or Xbox and I wonder, where did it all start? I personally have a PS3 but that's because most of my friends had it. I don't really think one is better than the other, they both have good exclusives and fun online play, so what's the big deal?
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#2 SparkyProtocol
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Microsoft and Sony are competitors. There you go. Halo vs Killzone. Xbox vs Playstation. Etc etc
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#3 locopatho
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Console wars, they always been around.
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#4 Armagadem
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Console wars, they always been around.locopatho
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.Armagadem
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

For the Lulz....

That explains everything in life - Remember that.

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#6 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.Armagadem
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!
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#7 Armagadem
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[QUOTE="Armagadem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.locopatho
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!

Nice lol
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#8 Riverwolf007
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meh y'know... same old story

ford v chevy

great taste v less filling

row v wade

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#9 Agent-Zero
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How did it start? Isn't the pretty obvious. Two companies are competing for the same costumers. People are into this whole "brand loyalty" thing, and most take it too far.
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#10 Armagadem
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meh y'know... same old story

ford v chevy

great taste v less filling

row v wade

Riverwolf007
let's not forget Tiger vs Eiland.
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#11 GAMERKID707
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it started when the two systems came out

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#12 Armagadem
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it started when the two systems came out

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I guess it's just people being pompous and saying what they have is better because of their pride. No one likes to admit that they are wrong so if someone has something worse they still won't admit it.
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#13 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="Armagadem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.locopatho
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!

religon/moral beleifs are in a completely different category than music and such.
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#14 da-KGB-
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It really, REALLY, doesn't take a genius to figure it out.....
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#15 windsquid9000
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It all started with an orange basket ball.

[spoiler] It started with gaming itself. As long as there are multiple systems on the market, people will take sides. [/spoiler]

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#16 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="Armagadem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.locopatho
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!

Some things in life deserve to get poo slung at. Consoles less so.
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#17 Armagadem
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It really, REALLY, doesn't take a genius to figure it out.....da-KGB-
So you know why everything happened Mr. Smarty Pants? Why all of the gaming systems in history have bickered and fought and why every single game has to be perfect for everyone? I didn't know you were present when they decided to start all this. My bad.
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Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

ItsBriskBaby

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

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#20 ItsBriskBaby
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

No the games are good, but the hardware is trash.
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#21 Armagadem
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[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

lundy86_4

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

I think the only reason Xbox 360 WAS better is because their online WAS better because you could do more, but I also liked PS3 because it was free. Now that the PS3 has a better online with playstation plus I don't see anything better about Xbox 360. It's not worse, I just don't see anything better. And don't say exclusives because LBP and GoW.
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No the games are good, but the hardware is trash.ItsBriskBaby

It certainly was. Squaretrade pegged it at 23.7% in Sept of '09. Down quite a bit, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's dropped more.

The hardware was trash, but ti's definately gotten better.

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#23 FastEddie2121
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I remember sega master system vs nintendo from back in the day, albeit was waged in the cafetorium and not the yet to be internet. System wars have progressed through the gens to where we are today and I'm sure there must have been some heated atari vs colecovision wars like "well my system has 16 colors and yours only has 4."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Early_console_wars

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#24 Armagadem
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I remember sega master system vs nintendo from back in the day, albeit was waged in the cafetorium and not the yet to be internet. System wars have progressed through the gens to where we are today and I'm sure there must have been some heated atari vs colecovision wars like "well my system has 16 colors and yours only has 4."FastEddie2121
probably lol
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Sony attempted to replicate their destruction of the Dreamast brand against the 360, and it backfired horribly

which was blasphemy back in 2006/2007, Sony was like the Pope of consoles, so seeing them tripping on their own shoelaces gave everybody else ammunition - which they capitalized on, to the detriment of many a sony fanboy, turning this gen into a mopey emotional soap opera of "whose the bigger underdog? *sniff* *sniff*", somehow because Sony screwed up more and delivered less they deserved to win, and that's where the "year of PS3" started - like the PS3 was the return of the jedi against the microsoft sith or some such melodrama

3 years later all of that energy seems to have transformed into hating OnLive, Activision, and casual games, as gamers go on a crusade against something that's always been around but never threatened them

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#26 Armagadem
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Sony attempted to replicate their destruction of the Dreamast brand against the 360, and it backfired horribly

which was blasphemy back in 2006/2007, Sony was like the Pope of consoles, so seeing them tripping on their own shoelaces gave everybody else ammunition - which they capitalized on, to the detriment of many a sony fanboy, turning this gen into a mopey emotional soap opera of "whose the bigger underdog? *sniff* *sniff*", somehow because Sony screwed up more and delivered less they deserved to win, and that's where the "year of PS3" started - like the PS3 was the return of the jedi against the microsoft sith or some such melodrama

3 years later all of that energy seems to have transformed into hating OnLive, Activision, and casual games, as gamers go on a crusade against something that's always been around but never threatened them

88mphSlayer
It's all for publicity. I think a lot of times the companies spout at each other not because they want to prove that they are better, but just so they can both get publicity for free.
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#27 BlueHarvest28
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

ItsBriskBaby

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

No the games are good, but the hardware is trash.

100% right!

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#28 WiiMan21
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The Forums that your under should explain it...

And its pretty self explanitory...

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[QUOTE="Armagadem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.locopatho
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't discuss politics? That politicians should keep their politics to themselves and act just how they feel?

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#30 Armagadem
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Armagadem"] I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?Ensamheten

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't discuss politics? That politicians should keep their politics to themselves and act just how they feel?

it was a metaphor, not a life lesson. If people kept politics to themselves then where would this country be? - I'm talking about the United States, my bad if you don't live there.
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[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"] No the games are good, but the hardware is trash.lundy86_4

It certainly was. Squaretrade pegged it at 23.7% in Sept of '09. Down quite a bit, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's dropped more.

The hardware was trash, but ti's definately gotten better.

I would assume it has gotten better over time, but using figures from third party warranty providers isn't going to paint an accurate picture. With all 360 owners having a three year manufacturer's warranty covering RRoD, why would anyone with RRoD send their console in to squaretrade?

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#32 lundy86_4  Online
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I would assume it has gotten better over time, but using figures from third party warranty providers isn't going to paint an accurate picture. With all 360 owners having a three year manufacturer's warranty covering RRoD, why would anyone with RRoD send their console in to squaretrade?

ianuilliam

That's very true, though which do you think would be more accurate? The warranty provider or a direct survey? I'm honestly not certain either way.

Still, like you said, it's reasonable to assume the failure rate has dropped over time.

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[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

No the games are good, but the hardware is trash.

The new "S" version and the jasper model are better.
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I'm sure it's because they're similar in what the consoles are capable of. If the 360 was weaker and focused on motion controls then System Wars would be Wii vs 360. At least that's how I see it. Also last generation the XBox came onto the scene challenging the PS2. So it's probably carrying over a bit from last gen.
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#35 Armagadem
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I'm sure it's because they're similar in what the consoles are capable of. If the 360 was weaker and focused on motion controls then System Wars would be Wii vs 360. At least that's how I see it. Also last generation the Xbox came onto the scene challenging the PS2. So it's probably carrying over a bit from last gen.Fumpa
Speaking of the Xbox carrying over from last gen when is the next Xbox console coming out? It seems like it's been a while and they just keep making a better 360. Do they really need to make a new one?
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[QUOTE="Armagadem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Console wars, they always been around.locopatho
I know, but what's the point? Everybody has their preference. It's like religions. When someone tries to force theirs upon you, you try to tell them why yours is better. Why can't people just keep to themselves?

Cos people are dicks :) My music/politics/religon/console/whatever is better than yours, HERE'S WHY!!!

This minus the 'Here's why'
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#37 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

lundy86_4

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

Actually no when you get raped you don't redeem your pride by just punching the other person you need to rape him or kill him and still 360 didn't kill PS3 it was just a small punch.

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#38 lamprey263
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because it's human nature, either that or "my god > ur god" or "my race> race" or "my politics > your politics" or "my tastes > ur tastes" or "my sport team > ur sport team"... we're all little fascists at heart
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People like to insult the things other people have because it somehow makes them feel better about themselves for not having it and for having another system others insult them for in a never ending cycle of stupidity over a plastic machine that give you enjoyment. The fact that this goes for both consoles solidifies my point.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

Kashiwaba

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

Actually no when you get raped you don't redeem your pride by just punching the other person you need to rape him or kill him and still 360 didn't kill PS3 it was just a small punch.

Note that marketshare never transfers over from generation to generation, but the PS3 was cut out pretty bad in the initial stages of the gen, both by MS and Nintendo. MS is also profitable on their system, makes a killing off Live (an integral part of the 360), the system has a great catalogue of games, so i'd say they the MS fanboys already redeemed their pride.

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#41 johnlennon28
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[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Ever since MS got raped by Sony with the PS2. Now MS fanboys are trying to redeem their pride.

I think that already happened. The 360 is a great system.

No the games are good, but the hardware is trash.

the sad part is some people are ok with it, like sriously, how can someone stand a console or any product that you know have a big tendency to break any minute..
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the sad part is some people are ok with it, like sriously, how can someone stand a console or any product that you know have a big tendency to break any minute..johnlennon28

When the company in question extends the warranty for 3 years for no fee :P

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#43 Armagadem
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[QUOTE="johnlennon28"] the sad part is some people are ok with it, like sriously, how can someone stand a console or any product that you know have a big tendency to break any minute..lundy86_4

When the company in question extends the warranty for 3 years for no fee :P

Wouldn't it just be easier just to get something that doesn't break. It's like toilet paper do you want to keep running out and getting it for free for a limited time. Or get a good brand that lasts a long time and doesn't run out (i.e. break)
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"] the sad part is some people are ok with it, like sriously, how can someone stand a console or any product that you know have a big tendency to break any minute..Armagadem

When the company in question extends the warranty for 3 years for no fee :P

Wouldn't it just be easier just to get something that doesn't break. It's like toilet paper do you want to keep running out and getting it for free for a limited time. Or get a good brand that lasts a long time and doesn't run out (i.e. break)

Well you tell me when they make unlimited toilet paper because my ps3 is starting to give me problems,nothing major though,but when I play my 360 I know something will happen but instead of worrying I send it in.
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The bout came about when the XBOX hit the market.

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Why do people argue about anything? Why do Mac and Windows compete? Why do the Zerg and Protoss fight? Why was Jesus crucified by the Romans? For the Lulz.
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Xbox spilt PS3's pint

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#48 Armagadem
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Xbox spilt PS3's pint

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And now the world goes thirsty! NOOOOO!!!!
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#49 Eltormo
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It started back with the PS2 when MS promise a 300 million polygon machine that would destroy sony,and deliver something not even close that games like GOW 2 and GT4 where to close to on the graphics deparment.

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#50 haitechan
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Because they have more or less the same target audience. And many games get released in both of them.