How far do you sit from your TV? Is 1080p really that important over 900p

The Damage Control begins lol

with 900p your going to receive a less crisp image. It's less about jaggies at this point but more about Scene detail.

Are lems seriously gonna suggest we can't notice over a half million pixels?

Console gamers thie generaiton have been stating, with absolute seriousness, that you can't telll the difference between SUB 720p and 1080p.

So yeah. Damage control in effect, but console gamers in generla are used to that.

Whether I'm PC gaming, console gaming, or toilet gaming (with a handheld), I sit at least 1-2 feet away.

lembots: half million pixels not important!

haha, dat damage control.

I don't know can we? If the upscaler in the Xbone and PS4 are good you might not

That's exactly what I'm saying. Its well known in the TV world 1080p is only beneficial when distance and/or screen size reaches a certain level. I'm suggesting if you play in the living room then there's a good chance you wouldn't notice.

The further you sit back the less the resolution maters... Also the size of your TV maters as well. But the bigger the screen, the higher the res you should want. But if your sitting 10-15 feet away from say a 50" TV at 1080p, I would think most of the benefits would be lost. The screen would have to be higher resolution and a bigger size at that distance.

I concede the PS4 could run at higher resolution, I'm asking if it people will really notice it.

good luck with that. 900p is missing more pixels than 480p vs 720p.

That's the point, if you sat far enough away you couldn't tell the difference. For 50" if you sat more than 16 feet away you couldn't tell the difference between 480p and 1080p.

I sit about 8-10 feet away from every TV in my house. I can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless I'm playing a PC game where it actually displays more of the game like Civ5... which has text so small it's impossible to play from 10ft away anyways.

As long as next gen games aren't sub 720p, I'm happy.

The real question: would it be less important to you if it was the PS4 at 900p and X1 doing 1080p?

I call BS on the distance. Here's BF4 beta from Digital Foundry and I can clearly see the difference on a tiny 24" monitor from 10feet.

http://i.imgur.com/L5PHwXB.png

Lemming Meltdown Continuation.

The answer is no. Most consolites have been claiming they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 720p now. But now all of a sudden they have eagle vision after years of playing games at 720p upscaled to 1080p. It's all the bs that is part of system wars. Reality is you will not be able to tell the difference in resolution on multiplats. Now their will most definitely be extra detail if devs choose to take advantage of the ps4s extra power. But resolution? Lol you will have no idea just like you don't now.

This. Poor Lems, suddenly don't care about graphics eventhough they kept bragging about minor differences in multiplatform versions last gen.
They are going to get slaughtered

You've got to also take into account that it is focusing on a still image in a very small area, could you tell the difference in motion with the whole image? and what about when it is upscaled to 1080?

also just read the article the images have no AA and are downscaled from the original 1080 image, not the same as natively rendering the image at 900. compression artefacts could be an issue with downscaling.

I sit about the same distance from my 42" TV as I do my 24" monitor :P

@nini200:

Damage control before the gen has even started XD

There is a big difference

Uh,yes. And the images are already upscaled to 1080.

Like I said, it's upscaled to 1080,not downscaled lol. If you can't easily tell the difference,please go see the eye doc.

http://cfa.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/6/2/2/4/3/2/1_1080_copy.png

http://cfa.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/6/2/2/4/3/2/1_900_copy.png

The options in the poll where based on THX and SMPTE specifications for movie theaters. For movies (and games are more like movies than still images) they are pretty accurate according to the professionals.

Im a projector user on 92" screen at 12.5feet so the higher the resolution the better for me. Was hoping all next gen games be 1080p :S

Did microsoft confirm this was the case yet, or is this all just speculation still

I'm a bit jealous :)

Indeed, read the article wrong the wording sounded like they took a still image at 1080 and then downscaled then upscaled, but I just misread.

I can indeed tell a difference, but there are other factors with a large screen TV that will make it less obvious, the scaling chip in the PS4/Xbone (PS4 games won't all be 1080) will be better than whatever DF used to upscale. Also size/distance of a monitor is much closer, and a game in motion will make it much less obvious.

@mystic_knight:

Speculation, the rumour is pretty stupid really. It will all be down to devs, the console can do 4k if the game was basic and ran at 24fps, there was no standard this gen as to what resolution games will be. Most will probably just take the hit on both consoles as the gen goes on. Wouldn't surprise me if 720 starts becoming the dominant res later in the gen on both consoles.

PC monitor, it's easy to tell

I could'nt honestly tell you if I'd notice a difference,but I will sleep soundly in my bed knowing my PS4 games have a better resolution than Xbone.LOL

360 vs ps3: 360 do 2 more fps, lembots go "OMG 360 B EST MULTIPLATZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"

360 vs ps3: 360 do 2 more fps, lembots go "OMG 360 B EST MULTIPLATZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"

PS4 vs xbone: 1080p vs 900p, like half million pixels more and better stable fps, lembots go "IS NOT EVEN NOTICEABLEEEEEEEEEEE"

Sitting far away reduces immersion and gives opponents who sit closer an edge in mp.

According to the experts

Option 1 you would notice the difference between 1080p and 900p.

Option 2 you would notice the difference between 1080p and 720p but not 1080p and 900p

Option 3 you wouldn't notice any difference between 1080p, 900p and 720p.

I think this kid is just trying to convince himself that its ok to play games at an inferior 900p for the next 6+ years on XBone. Telling himself "its okay, its not a big difference, i'll be able to sleep at night".

Yes you can easily tell the fuggin difference. 2005 called and they want their damage control back.

I sit about 2 inches away

@tdkmillsy:

I wont notice it, because I wont own a X1.

I sit at my desk when I use my PC/PS3, so the distance is pretty short and I can notice resolution jumps pretty much immediately.

42", roughly 6-7 feet away

900p up scaled to 1080p will result in a less crisp image, but that ultimately depends on the size of your TV. The bigger the TV, the less crisp it will look. Up scaling is not as good as it sounds. Native signals are the way to go.

I game exclusively on a monitor. And honestly the difference between the two is very small.

Well according to that graph, I sit around the optimal distance for my 720p TV. So it doesn't make a difference.

For my PC monitor, I can get something of much higher resolution given how close I sit.

Looks like that's the case.

Maybe that is because the XBone needs to allocate some of its processing power the the SpyCam. XD

I personally run my PC games in 640x480 on a 14" screen and sit 100 feet away and honestly it looks just as good as 1080p

you da funny guy

10' from a 60" TV and I can notice the difference between 900p and 1080p. 900p is like 1080p with FXAA(slight blur). On my monitor(2' away) it's much worse.