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If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
the first one got 6.9, so even if kz2 get an 8.0 i would not consider it a flop. When I see games improve over the original it is always a good thing, not like some sequals that turn out to be worse or without any big improvement, cought, geow2, cough.ZoomZoom2490
So I guess you're just going to ignore the avalanche of hype this game is getting?
And what does Gears have to do with this?
I agree. The sad part is we still have a few months of dealing with those fanboysIf Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
Tragic_Kingdom7
If it gets an 8.0 or an 8.5 , I think it will be kind of a shame from what I have seen from a lot of people. There will be people screaming FLOP from the mountaintops that actually hyped the game as crappy as the first , that is will be poo , and all of this other junk against Guerrilla games. They will be owned too and they will never admit to it. I kept challenging these people to put their money where their mouth was and go under an 8.0 to match what they were saying and they were too scared , but kept on hating. It will be great day for gamers if Killzone 2 succeeds on that level , but a sad one if that does happen because only one group will be held accountable.
Over 40M in budget, more than 160 people working on it simultaneously and 4 years of development?
Yeah it's gonna flop...
If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
It may, or may not flop, but one thing is for certain....even if it turns out to be the best FPS to ever grace consoles it still wont live up to the hype that its been getting lately. As for KZ fanboys being the most obnoxious? FFVII, Zelda and Halo fanboys are much worse. I enjoy those games, but you never see mindless drones like those.I see the KZ2 cheerleaders mention the amount of money they used to make the game and I do not understand why. Money does not mean talent. I will give a example EA and Square is one of the largest developers but they put out a ton of junk but Valve and Epic are much smaller and they still put out great games.Over 40M in budget, more than 160 people working on it simultaneously and 4 years of development?
Yeah it's gonna flop...
1xcalibur1
[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]It may, or may not flop, but one thing is for certain....even if it turns out to be the best FPS to ever grace consoles it still wont live up to the hype that its been getting lately. As for KZ fanboys being the most obnoxious? FFVII, Zelda and Halo fanboys are much worse. I enjoy those games, but you never see mindless drones like those.If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
hhttppp
Well, they're definitely the most annoying at the moment. But yeah, FFVII, Zelda and Halo fanboys are awful. So are MGS fanboys.
[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]the first one got 6.9, so even if kz2 get an 8.0 i would not consider it a flop. When I see games improve over the original it is always a good thing, not like some sequals that turn out to be worse or without any big improvement, cought, geow2, cough.Tragic_Kingdom7
So I guess you're just going to ignore the avalanche of hype this game is getting?
And what does Gears have to do with this?
It has its avalanche of doubters though too , based on no co-op .... that it is too much like Call of Duty and not enough like Call of Duty and hundreds of other reasons why it won't be great. Too gray , graphics aren't that special , weird animations , multiplayer stinks , not innovative enough , the enemies have red eyes , etc. Lots of mixed hype on this one. I think most would agree that they aren't really sure what score Gamespot will attach to this game and what they will come up with to knock it.This isn't a game like MGS4 , God of War II , LBP , Gears 2 , Zelda , Mario , etc hype. People are excited about the game and rightfully so , but score ? Wow , that is hard to say.
[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]the first one got 6.9, so even if kz2 get an 8.0 i would not consider it a flop. When I see games improve over the original it is always a good thing, not like some sequals that turn out to be worse or without any big improvement, cought, geow2, cough.Nike_Air
So I guess you're just going to ignore the avalanche of hype this game is getting?
And what does Gears have to do with this?
It has its avalanche of doubters though too , based on no co-op .... that it is too much like Call of Duty and not enough like Call of Duty and hundreds of other reasons why it won't be great. Too gray , graphics aren't that special , weird animations , multiplayer stinks , not innovative enough , the enemies have red eyes , etc. Lots of mixed hype on this one. I think most would agree that they aren't really sure what score Gamespot will attach to this game and what they will come up with to knock it.This isn't a game like MGS4 , God of War II , LBP , Gears 2 , Zelda , Mario , etc hype. People are excited about the game and rightfully so , but score ? Wow , that is hard to say.
I have no doubt that you're right about people not being sure about what score Gamespot will attach to this game, but from what I've seen from the Killzone fanbois, it is all ready the greatest FPS of all time. I don't think there's any denying that outwardly, the game has been hyped to the moon. Internally, I think both the fanbois and the severely anti-Killzone people are scared, the former scared of a flop, the latter scared that it might live up to the hype.
But anybody that has been in any of those threads knows the hype from fanbois is simply monumental.
[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"]I see the KZ2 cheerleaders mention the amount of money they used to make the game and I do not understand why. Money does not mean talent. I will give a example EA and Square is one of the largest developers but they put out a ton of junk but Valve and Epic are much smaller and they still put out great games.Over 40M in budget, more than 160 people working on it simultaneously and 4 years of development?
Yeah it's gonna flop...
rybe1025
lol dont be a clown man.
EA releases **** games because they work like 2 months on a game for pc,ps3,ps2,360,regular xbox,ds,wii,psp all together.
Valve releases a game once in 2 years minimum and it's for PC and occasionaly 360. They invest lots and lots of time between 2 consoles max
while EA on the other hand spends not even half of it on multiple platforms. Do the math man. The writing is right there on the wall.
If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
Tragic_Kingdom7
For every bit of hype K2 gets it gets the same amount of hate.
So, it would be as funny seing K2 flop as seing it suceed.
[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]It has its avalanche of doubters though too , based on no co-op .... that it is too much like Call of Duty and not enough like Call of Duty and hundreds of other reasons why it won't be great. Too gray , graphics aren't that special , weird animations , multiplayer stinks , not innovative enough , the enemies have red eyes , etc. Lots of mixed hype on this one. I think most would agree that they aren't really sure what score Gamespot will attach to this game and what they will come up with to knock it.So I guess you're just going to ignore the avalanche of hype this game is getting?
And what does Gears have to do with this?
Tragic_Kingdom7
This isn't a game like MGS4 , God of War II , LBP , Gears 2 , Zelda , Mario , etc hype. People are excited about the game and rightfully so , but score ? Wow , that is hard to say.
I have no doubt that you're right about people not being sure about what score Gamespot will attach to this game, but from what I've seen from the Killzone fanbois, it is all ready the greatest FPS of all time. I don't think there's any denying that outwardly, the game has been hyped to the moon. Internally, I think both the fanbois and the severely anti-Killzone people are scared, the former scared of a flop, the latter scared that it might live up to the hype.
But anybody that has been in any of those threads knows the hype from fanbois is simply monumental.
I do believe that some fanboys are believing that it will be the best FPS of all time , but I don't think many of those are even care what the game gets score-wise.Most aren't really thinking of it in terms of it having to be a 10 to be better than Halo 3 ot a 9.5 to be better than Gears 2. You know what I mean. I have only seen a few handful of people actually guaranteeing scores , but there are lot are hoping or thinking it has a great chance at a AAA score. Obviously other ps3 fans , manticores , shooter fans , etc are generally impressed with the looks and want to play the game so that ads to the general excitement and hope.The opposing fanboys are jealous of the attention obviously so they are praying that it gets under a 9.0 so they can call it a flop and demanding that it be hyped Halo Killer or whartever , and forget the things they have said in the past. Would they actually give Guerrilla some credit if it is AA or better , something they originally thought was improbable ? Probably not would be my guess , they went from it will be terrible to now inflating the hype (halo-killer) on purpose so they can knock the game.
I think I would rather be guy that is expecting it to be great and hoping for more than the guy praying that it flops everyday , but that is just me.
If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
For every bit of hype K2 gets it gets the same amount of hate.
So, it would be as funny seing K2 flop as seing it suceed.
THats every exclusive for every platform on this board Gears 2 had its hypers and haters...and so does Killzone 2.....It isn't like the game is Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts...or Too HUman or Haze...where the fanboy group of said exclusive was actually split between hype and hate.[QUOTE="DarkyC"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
jg4xchamp
For every bit of hype K2 gets it gets the same amount of hate.
So, it would be as funny seing K2 flop as seing it suceed.
THats every exclusive for every platform on this board Gears 2 had its hypers and haters...and so does Killzone 2.....It isn't like the game is Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts...or Too HUman or Haze...where the fanboy group of said exclusive was actually split between hype and hate.Not really, GeoW2 had much more love than hate. So did MGS4, Halo3 and many others. Then there's games that had more hate then love. But in K2 for every person that's it's great there's one person that goes "flopzone 1 flopped".
[QUOTE="hhttppp"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]It may, or may not flop, but one thing is for certain....even if it turns out to be the best FPS to ever grace consoles it still wont live up to the hype that its been getting lately. As for KZ fanboys being the most obnoxious? FFVII, Zelda and Halo fanboys are much worse. I enjoy those games, but you never see mindless drones like those.If Killzone 2 flops, I might laugh so hard I'll be in danger of suffocating myself.
IMO, Killzone 2 fanboys easily rank as the most obnoxious fanboys out there. Anybody who thinks Killzone 2 looks uninteresting is a "hater".
Tragic_Kingdom7
Well, they're definitely the most annoying at the moment. But yeah, FFVII, Zelda and Halo fanboys are awful. So are MGS fanboys.
KZ fanboys are fighting to get the Awful Fanboy Of The Year Award is more threads like these keep popping up. On subject....If KZ2 flops SW will implode...So, it better not flop. Hermits, Sheep and Lemmings are praying just to claim ownage, as for KZ fanboys are praying for the reviewer to say ''KZ2 is console graphics king'' just to say ''Haha Halo, Gears, Crysis and blah blah''It has to flop, I just don't see it getting 10/10.Brainkiller0510/10? No. But, 9.0-9.5(Most likely 9.5)
If it gets 9.0 then thats syaing its at the same level as resistance 2. And with all the time put into the game thats a bit of a problem.
9.5 would be about right here, and I dont think a 10 would be a real suprise either.
That's the whole problem man. If it gets 9.0, people will comapre it to Gears 2 and Resistance 2 and say what you just said. If it gets 9.5, people will still say that it falls short of 0.1 compared to Gears 1, and tie with Halo 3, but given the development time and money, it's relatively a lower yield. Killzone 2 had consumed too much resources and time to ever get a score which xbox fanboys will consider as deemed fit for what it costs. As many have said, Killzone 2 will never live up to the hype given the current predicament, unless it gets 10/10 and sold 2 million copies or so on the first day. That's more than what MGS4 achieved i believed.If it gets 9.0 then thats syaing its at the same level as resistance 2. And with all the time put into the game thats a bit of a problem.
9.5 would be about right here, and I dont think a 10 would be a real suprise either.
NinjaMunkey01
I would really be surprised if it flops, I think it'll get 9.0-9.5
but if it did flop wow SW would be crazy
[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]the first one got 6.9, so even if kz2 get an 8.0 i would not consider it a flop. When I see games improve over the original it is always a good thing, not like some sequals that turn out to be worse or without any big improvement, cought, geow2, cough.Tragic_Kingdom7
So I guess you're just going to ignore the avalanche of hype this game is getting?
And what does Gears have to do with this?
Why wouldn't you ignore the hype? Isn't what you think about the game yourself what matters?I would laugh so hard i'd probably slip into a coma,
whats the hype for KZ2 anyways, im hyping it AAA
Most of the hype is based on graphics.
Anyway if it scores lower than a 9.0, it would be a bit disappointing.
Also, this.Not funny at all. Why would you want a game where developers have put there heart and soul into to fail? ( No matter what you think of game surely no one can deny that?) It a pretty depressing state of affairs when people actually want games to fail
James567
Not funny at all. Why would you want a game where developers have put there heart and soul into to fail? ( No matter what you think of game surely no one can deny that?) It a pretty depressing state of affairs when people actually want games to fail
Also, this. really i mean to some people its just a game but really, its peoples jobs on the lineNot funny at all. Why would you want a game where developers have put there heart and soul into to fail? ( No matter what you think of game surely no one can deny that?) It a pretty depressing state of affairs when people actually want games to fail
James567
Yeah I agree... As videogamers, we should all have an open mind about games on every platform. Even though I don't own a 360, I was looking forward to see how Gears 2 turned out.
It's quite sad to hear fanboys wanting a game to fail. Just sad...
[QUOTE="James567"]Not funny at all. Why would you want a game where developers have put there heart and soul into to fail? ( No matter what you think of game surely no one can deny that?) It a pretty depressing state of affairs when people actually want games to fail
hrt_rulz01
Yeah I agree... As videogamers, we should all have an open mind about games on every platform. Even though I don't own a 360, I was looking forward to see how Gears 2 turned out.
It's quite sad to hear fanboys wanting a game to fail. Just sad...
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