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#1 drekula2
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What are your thoughts on this?

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#2 Nengo_Flow
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its nice but BC is not even within the top 5 reasons to buy a new system.
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#3 drekula2
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Not having BC retains the value of old consoles, so I'll side with that.

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#4 mems_1224
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Not important at all. I buy new systems to play new games.
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#5 gameofthering
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99% important.

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#6 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Not important at all. I buy new systems to play new games. mems_1224
Yep. My old systems aren't going anywhere.
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#7 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It's pretty important, in my opinion. More so on handhelds than on consoles, admittedly.
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#8 TecmoGirl
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GTA V is a easy reminder of just how important BC is overall. It's pretty annoying when you want to jump into next-gen fully right away but have to debate on whether or not to do so on account of missing out on the last few games you're highly anticipating in the process.

If anything, it gives people who are hesitant to adopt early even more of a push to do -- there's comfort in knowing that if there aren't any games that appeal to you right away, you can still play the current gen ones while waiting.

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#9 DocSanchez
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It's good to have it, but it's not essential. Quite frankly digging out/keeping hold of old consoles just because it isn't there is annoying.

 

But it's so far from being a deal breaker as to render it almost worthless.

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GTA V is a easy reminder of just how important BC is overall. It's pretty annoying when you want to jump into next-gen fully right away but have to debate on whether or not to do so on account of missing out on the last few games you're highly anticipating in the process.

If anything, it gives people who are hesitant to adopt early even more of a push to do -- there's comfort in knowing that if there aren't any games that appeal to you right away, you can still play the current gen ones while waiting.

TecmoGirl
Why would anyone buy a console if nothing at the time of purchase interests you? Sounds dumb.
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#11 treedoor
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For me it's huge.

It's convenient, you can get rid of your old system for some extra money, or trade it, or lend it to a friend, and in the case of having B/C for a system you don't own, it's two systems in one.

 

I've never owned a Wii, or a 360, so when I look at the Wii U I see two systems in one, but the Xbox One will only provide me with Xbox One games. The Xbox One would have so much more value to me if it did since I really want to play some of the 360 games I missed out on.

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#12 deactivated-58c8ef5f8044e
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I just realized the Wii U is the only next gen system with free online and backwards compatibility... 

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#13 TecmoGirl
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[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

GTA V is a easy reminder of just how important BC is overall. It's pretty annoying when you want to jump into next-gen fully right away but have to debate on whether or not to do so on account of missing out on the last few games you're highly anticipating in the process.

If anything, it gives people who are hesitant to adopt early even more of a push to do -- there's comfort in knowing that if there aren't any games that appeal to you right away, you can still play the current gen ones while waiting.

mems_1224

Why would anyone buy a console if nothing at the time of purchase interests you? Sounds dumb.

Some people just like to have the latest greatest tech right away due to hype or w/e reasons. Plus, it's not always that clear cut. There could be games that interest you but end up disappointing which might cause regrets. But if you have BC, then you really didn't lose anything in the upgrade.

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#14 DocSanchez
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I just realized the Wii U is the only next gen system with free online and backwards compatibility... 

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Given the amount of games it's not getting and the level of their online, that's not surprising.

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#15 Gue1
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If the PS4 had PS3 BC the upgrade would have been so much more easier knowing that I could sell my PS3 and still be able to enjoy my old games and new releases alike. 

But the change in architecture ruined that dream. :cry:

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#16 Michael0134567
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Pretty important to me. Something I love having.

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#17 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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For handhelds, yes, like with 3DS.

For consoles, I used to believe in having a BC feature is important. Now, not so much anymore. I rationalize that my older consoles aren't going anywhere, so why not play them for as long as I want to. Hell, I still play my generation 6 consoles every now and then. 

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#18 psymon100
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I think it's great, but it's not essential. 

Considering among 8th gen consoles it's just the Wii U with BC, I can't imagine it's a big deal to the average system warrior. 

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#19 wiiutroll
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not important

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#20 Basinboy
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Backlog is important to me on PC

Replaying console games isn't a big deal to me since I keep all my old ones anyway

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#21 Jonwh18
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Very important. One of the top things I consider in a console or handheld. 

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#22 tmntPunchout
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How much are PS2's and how easy are they to find? Depending on the difficulty of that then maybe it's pretty important since I'm sure they all eventually brick.

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#23 DocSanchez
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Very important. One of the top things I consider in a console or handheld. 

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One of the top things? If its one of the top things you consider don't buy the new console just stick with the old ones!

:lol: logic!

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#24 CrownKingArthur
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absolutely critical. 

sometimes I want to play command and conquer, theme park, quake 1, rise of the triad, scorched earth, or any other fantastic game from days gone by. its great i don't have to go looking for a pentium 1 any time i want to play a landmark game. 

pc is in a lucky position with bc so that's kind of unfair. 

but wii u is appealling in a weird way, because so many games can be played on it, and i havent played some of them which are supposed to be awesome like smg2. 

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#25 tdkmillsy
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Important as long as you don't have to pay for it again.
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#26 halogreatest
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pointless, I do not live in the past.

 

I will only play the latest and greatest, which can only be offered by Sony and MS.

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#27 Netret0120
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For me it's huge.

It's convenient, you can get rid of your old system for some extra money, or trade it, or lend it to a friend, and in the case of having B/C for a system you don't own, it's two systems in one.

 

I've never owned a Wii, or a 360, so when I look at the Wii U I see two systems in one, but the Xbox One will only provide me with Xbox One games. The Xbox One would have so much more value to me if it did since I really want to play some of the 360 games I missed out on.

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This. The old system might malfunction and it is a bit of a hassle to get my ps2 out, connect all the controllers and then start playing again. I prefer BC. It isn't essential but why not have it?
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

GTA V is a easy reminder of just how important BC is overall. It's pretty annoying when you want to jump into next-gen fully right away but have to debate on whether or not to do so on account of missing out on the last few games you're highly anticipating in the process.

If anything, it gives people who are hesitant to adopt early even more of a push to do -- there's comfort in knowing that if there aren't any games that appeal to you right away, you can still play the current gen ones while waiting.

TecmoGirl

Why would anyone buy a console if nothing at the time of purchase interests you? Sounds dumb.

Some people just like to have the latest greatest tech right away due to hype or w/e reasons. Plus, it's not always that clear cut. There could be games that interest you but end up disappointing which might cause regrets. But if you have BC, then you really didn't lose anything in the upgrade.

everyone shouldn't have to be punished with a more expensive console just because a few people can't wait for a system to get a bigger lineup though. most people don't use backwards compatibility. even less people use it after the first year or 2 of a console's life.
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#29 Gue1
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How much are PS2's and how easy are they to find? Depending on the difficulty of that then maybe it's pretty important since I'm sure they all eventually brick.

tmntPunchout

 

If you haven't bought one yet then don't do it now. The latests models (SCPH-90001) are even more unreliable than the initial batch of X360 models. And I talk by experience because I bought one 2 years ago, have only beaten like 3 JRPGs on it and the laser is already broken. And this is my 4th PS2 since 2003! That's why I now have a PC to play them in HD. I bought Suikoden 3 for less than 10 bucks and beat it around August and dude, it looked spectacular with 60 frames, twice the resolution and wide-screen patch.

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#30 Shadowchronicle
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I feel like with backwards compatibility, iff Microsoft or Sony added that in people would be complaining about the prices of each console. Plus when you buy a new console you buy a new console to play new games... Not the old ones.
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#31 TecmoGirl
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[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why would anyone buy a console if nothing at the time of purchase interests you? Sounds dumb. mems_1224

Some people just like to have the latest greatest tech right away due to hype or w/e reasons. Plus, it's not always that clear cut. There could be games that interest you but end up disappointing which might cause regrets. But if you have BC, then you really didn't lose anything in the upgrade.

everyone shouldn't have to be punished with a more expensive console just because a few people can't wait for a system to get a bigger lineup though. most people don't use backwards compatibility. even less people use it after the first year or 2 of a console's life.

Why would we have to be punished? Didn't this gen introduce multiple SKU's? I don't see why they couldn't do that. And how do you know how often people use BC? Take the PS2/Wi for example -- one of the most praised features are BC for them.

It only failed to matter with the 360 because the original xbox didn't have a strong enough lineup for it to matter and the PS3 was priced way too high for anyone to really get a chance take advantage of it before it was phased out.  

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#32 M8ingSeezun
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It's nice to have, but not too important. I still play my older consoles: GC, N64, XBOX, PS2. 

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#33 SirCantelope
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With such weak launch lineups it would have been very important to have BC to have a reason to purchase at launch.
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Very. The first year after I buy a new console, I spend mostly playing last generation games.
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#35 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

Some people just like to have the latest greatest tech right away due to hype or w/e reasons. Plus, it's not always that clear cut. There could be games that interest you but end up disappointing which might cause regrets. But if you have BC, then you really didn't lose anything in the upgrade.

TecmoGirl

everyone shouldn't have to be punished with a more expensive console just because a few people can't wait for a system to get a bigger lineup though. most people don't use backwards compatibility. even less people use it after the first year or 2 of a console's life.

Why would we have to be punished? Didn't this gen introduce multiple SKU's? I don't see why they couldn't do that. And how do you know how often people use BC? Take the PS2/Wi for example -- one of the most praised features are BC for them.

It only failed to matter with the 360 because the original xbox didn't have a strong enough lineup for it to matter and the PS3 was priced way too high for anyone to really get a chance take advantage of it before it was phased out.  

from the company's point of view it doesnt make sense. especially since sony proved that people are willing to pay for older games again.
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#36 handssss
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considering the prices of both consoles if they had built in backwards compatibility, it is not worth it. Aside from that your old console isn't magically destroyed when the new ones come out. It's really only worth it for those who don't feel like dealing with 2 machines and the space issues or whatever it may bring.
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#37 bbkkristian
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Yes, I love to trade in my old systems to help pay for the newer one while keeping the few games worth replaying. My PS3 phat is almost on its deathbed; and I don't want to spend $200 to play my ps3 games, on top of getting the ps4. It's dumb, those things aren't invincible.
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#38 bbkkristian
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Very. The first year after I buy a new console, I spend mostly playing last generation games. meetroid8
Yes, exactly, launch libraries suck.
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#39 LegatoSkyheart
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Having Backwards Compatibility adds to the Library of the New System and makes waiting for new games a lot Easier.

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#40 Trail_Mix
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It's a nice feature, but I can live without it.

Once the next generation is in full motion I rarely play any of my past gen games.

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Very important unless you don't mind wasting money on HDMI switch boxes.

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#42 SchnabbleTab
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Not important at all. I buy new systems to play new games. mems_1224

 

So you throw your old games away or do you have 10 consoles standing around?

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#43 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Not important at all. I buy new systems to play new games. SchnabbleTab

 

So you throw your old games away or do you have 10 consoles standing around?

usually give my old consoles and games to my brother to hold on to. he has every system and a giant library of games going back to the NES, maybe earlier. Why do you care what I do with my stuff?
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#44 WilliamRLBaker
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For me its a very big thing because at this point in console power software emulation is pretty much easy to acomplish.

Hell take ps3 for example they took hardware bc out and its a fact that they have working software emulation hence why you can buy ps1 and ps2 games off psn...but they refuse to give the ps2 software emulation to the people, non bc ps3s can recognize ps2 discs.

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PC gamer conversation. Person 1"Hey, you should try System Shock 2". Person 2"but, my PC doesn't have backwards compatibility". Person 1".....Huh"
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PC gamer conversation. Person 1"Hey, you should try System Shock 2". Person 2"but, my PC doesn't have backwards compatibility". Person 1".....Huh" danten81

that would never happen

but that was pretty funny. so 10/10

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Pretty important because I would like to pack up my old hardware. I would even pay extra for software emulation if it were offered.
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#48 jer_1
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Not important at all to me. PC doesn't have this issue.
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It was worthless to me last gen. I will hold on to my current gen consoles for a year or two for a couple games before completely moving on. There is always PC for old games
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#50 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Very, my PC has BC all the way back to the first games provided that you do some tweaking. I pretty much play mostly older games with a few new ones mixed in there, so I'm always getting games from random times periods. Half the reason I bought my PS3 was being able to play PS1/some PS2/PS3 games.