How is Nintendo going to compete next gen?

Is Nintendo in trouble? Sony and Microsoft already incorporate motion control technology in their current consoles, and there is no doubt they will have motion control ready day one next gen. So how will Nintendo evolve to stay on top?

Doing what it's been doing for the last 20 years, releasing great games.

Zelda in HD :D

Is Nintendo in trouble? Sony and Microsoft already incorporate motion control technology in their current consoles, and there is no doubt they will have motion control ready day one next gen. So how will Nintendo evolve to stay on top?

nchan

The Wii HD Laptop featuring an autostereoscopic 3D display and support for TV-Out.

That's the thing, we don't know. What we know so far is that they have secured the next gen handheld space yet again.

and they dont have to do anything...all they have to do is launch a "new" recycled mario along...and making it kiddo attractive and PUM you got over 9000 sales per minutelightleggy

Nintendo will survive because of Mario, Zelda, and their other anticipated exclusives. Meanwhile, they'll probably continue selling well to the casual market. I can't see the casual market switching to Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo is a video game name everyone recognizes, and lot of the older generation remembers playing the original NES, even if it belonged to their son or daughter when they were growing up. They don't recognize Sony or Microsoft as easily, so I'm willing to bet if they tried the same strategy at the start of this gen they wouldn't have had much success. And for the same reason, Nintendo will keep the casual fanbase.

Yes, they lost a lot of the hardcore fanbase this gen, but the ones who remained stayed for the old favourites that they can't get anywhere else. So if they keep the casuals and the dedicated followers of Mario and Zelda, they'll get along just fine.

Is Nintendo in trouble? Sony and Microsoft already incorporate motion control technology in their current consoles, and there is no doubt they will have motion control ready day one next gen. So how will Nintendo evolve to stay on top?

nchan

the question is what are ms and sony going to do? they both showed they dont have a inovative bone in there whole bodys . Nintendo is very creative and will come up with even better controls next gen. Whats the point in putting out a new controler 4 years in ? Are they going to use them on ps4 as well?

Sony shows they don't know how to make a penny off gaming. lossing 100s of millions a year. As always ms will put out a pile of junke so i am not worried about them .

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]and they dont have to do anything...all they have to do is launch a "new" recycled mario along...and making it kiddo attractive and PUM you got over 9000 sales per minuteRavensmash

they will make something diferent

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]and they dont have to do anything...all they have to do is launch a "new" recycled mario along...and making it kiddo attractive and PUM you got over 9000 sales per minutelightleggy

yes because wind waker is so much like oot

Nintendo will no doubt increase the online performance, graphics, and HD. I honestly think the graphics will be closer to the "PS4" and "720" then the Wii was to the PS3 and 360, although from there. who knows what they will do. I would imagine built in wiimotion plus, cordless controllers, and more little innovations on the controller and the console. I doubt the "Wii2" will bring upon as much change as the Wii did, but I think it will bring a bit.

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how will Nintendo compete :lol:

If you havent got it by now, you never will. The real question is, how will Sony and MS compete.

The japanese console maker will merge with the otherjapanese console maker and make games and accessories for the other respective console, since that's what they'remost predominate at. (Don't ask how I got this revelation, it came to me in a dream)

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] But those 'recycled games' end up good. My theory....Nintendo have lack third party support this gen with the Wii, and that's about to change with 3DS. I reckon it's more of a trial with how those games turn out/sell, and if they do well (which I expect), we can expect Nintendo to have a lot more 3rd party support/powerfuller system next gen.dontshackzmii

yes because wind waker is so much like oot

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, they dont end up good, they end up to be the same as the others...its just that the people say that they are good because of NOSTALGIA, come on SMG2 didnt deserved a 10...its pure nostalgia! just cus its a mario game. and 3ds? im sorry are you talking about the nintendo 3d recycle??? come on....they announce like 40 titles for it and around 99% of those titles were remakes from older games...instead of introducing new gameslightleggy

yes because wind waker is so much like oot

That sentence just makes it obvious that you didn't play the game completely through.

Nintendo always has something ready to gain new interest. Look at how much publicity the 3DS has gotten. Do you think Nintendo is going to be stagnant when it somes to their next console release?

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]and they dont have to do anything...all they have to do is launch a "new" recycled mario along...and making it kiddo attractive and PUM you got over 9000 sales per minutelightleggy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

yes because wind waker is so much like oot

jimkabrhel

That sentence just makes it obvious that you didn't play the game completely through.

Nintendo always has something ready to gain new interest. Look at how much publicity the 3DS has gotten. Do you think Nintendo is going to be stagnant when it somes to their next console release?

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, they dont end up good, they end up to be the same as the others...its just that the people say that they are good because of NOSTALGIA, come on SMG2 didnt deserved a 10...its pure nostalgia! just cus its a mario game. and 3ds? im sorry are you talking about the nintendo 3d recycle??? come on....they announce like 40 titles for it and around 99% of those titles were remakes from older games...instead of introducing new gameslightleggy

yes because wind waker is so much like oot

Wind Waker is very similar to Ocarina. However, Galaxy 2 did not get a 10 out of nostalgia... You can just watch as Zelda scores drop with every installment as an obvious example that nostalgia IS NOT enough. Sequels almost always score lower for this very reason. Zelda relies very heavily on nostalgia, yes, and Mario does too, but the Galaxy series did add a lot of new stuff to the mix. While Zelda stayed pretty much the same since Ocarina. Maybe Galaxy 2 didn't deserve a 10, but to claim the score is driven purely by nostalgia is ignorance at best. It sounds like a desperate argument to me.

Is Nintendo in trouble? Sony and Microsoft already incorporate motion control technology in their current consoles, and there is no doubt they will have motion control ready day one next gen. So how will Nintendo evolve to stay on top?

nchan

the real question is What is Sony going to do to compete next gen? dont worry about nintendo

I'd guess they'll go for higher power this gen, seeing as how excited about that devs are on the 3DS. They'll probably evolve their motion a little, building in WM+ level stuff into both wand and nunchuck units (if they stick with this layout, which I think they will). Then after that they'll focus on making a very powerful machine that's easy to make games on.sam_nintendo

They have the brand name thing going on that Sony had with the PS1 so they could probably just ride on the Wii's success (not that they will, they always do their own thing). I wouldn't be concerned, you could hardly call this gen much of a competition and when it started everybody had written Nintendo off (despite the GC still turning a profit).

[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"]I'd guess they'll go for higher power this gen, seeing as how excited about that devs are on the 3DS. They'll probably evolve their motion a little, building in WM+ level stuff into both wand and nunchuck units (if they stick with this layout, which I think they will). Then after that they'll focus on making a very powerful machine that's easy to make games on.SakusEnvoy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="sam_nintendo"] Wait, what about people that had SMG or SMG2 as their first Mario game? I'm sure there are some of those people, would they not be allowed to like it?sam_nintendo

Not true. If the score was driven by nostalgia, then the game would have to be very similar to the first. Therefore, someone playing it for the first time would enjoy it as much as we enjoyed Super Mario Bros the first time. His argument was that it should not deserve a 10, since it didn't add anything new. And if he were right, then his argument would be valid. However, he probably isn't right. He probably hasn't played the game himself to even judge. And while I haven't played the game either, I acknowledge that it's highly unlikely a game that uses the exact same formula as previous installments would actually score higher than every other game in that series.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

yes because wind waker is so much like oot

lightleggy

You can't have played WW if you think that is true...

they're interested in hd so they will be hd just a gen behind while ps4 and 720 are stronger the wii2 will be just as strong as the ps3 with a custom made cpu just like the wii is now.

up the motion controls and make it attractive you have more dev support since they are power hungry and an attractive console with also the name brand going on. your going to sell millions. they should be fine next gen too.

[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] that is not my point.Tropictrain

Not true. If the score was driven by nostalgia, then the game would have to be very similar to the first. Therefore, someone playing it for the first time would enjoy it as much as we enjoyed Super Mario Bros the first time. His argument was that it should not deserve a 10, since it didn't add anything new. And if he were right, then his argument would be valid. However, he probably isn't right. He probably hasn't played the game himself to even judge. And while I haven't played the game either, I acknowledge that it's highly unlikely a game that uses the exact same formula as previous installments would actually score higher than every other game in that series.

i dont think Nintendo will come up with any new technology in the long run.

they havent really enforced any superior graphic processors in the Wii so i think it'll stay fairly tailored to children and Zelda/Mario lovers.

(i secretly love both but hate the motion controls for the Wii)

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how will Nintendo compete :lol:

If you havent got it by now, you never will. The real question is, how will Sony and MS compete.

Oonga

this. this.

they're interested in hd so they will be hd just a gen behind while ps4 and 720 are stronger the wii2 will be just as strong as the ps3 with a custom made cpu just like the wii is now.

up the motion controls and make it attractive you have more dev support since they are power hungry and an attractive console with also the name brand going on. your going to sell millions. they should be fine next gen too.

Mario1331

I joke that the next Wii console will be a 3D laptop, but really, going unconventional -- going different -- it's the best way for Nintendo to thrive.

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[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"] You said they only end up good because of nostalgia, so someone that never played a Mario game wouldn't like it because there would be no nostalgia. So yes, that was one of your points.sam_nintendo

Not true. If the score was driven by nostalgia, then the game would have to be very similar to the first. Therefore, someone playing it for the first time would enjoy it as much as we enjoyed Super Mario Bros the first time. His argument was that it should not deserve a 10, since it didn't add anything new. And if he were right, then his argument would be valid. However, he probably isn't right. He probably hasn't played the game himself to even judge. And while I haven't played the game either, I acknowledge that it's highly unlikely a game that uses the exact same formula as previous installments would actually score higher than every other game in that series.

You're nitpicking. :P That isn't what he meant, and you know it. And although it can be amusing to nitpick if you're arguing purely for entertainment, you're argument is as desperate as his is and doesn't hold any value whatsoever.

Release a system and games I guess, I don't understand why Nintendo is doomed next gen. Nintendo has the brand recognition Sony and MS lack going into next gen. If all the systems are the same I have more faith that Nintendo will pull through than the other 2.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] its the same thing with different graphics...lightleggy

That sentence just makes it obvious that you didn't play the game completely through.

Nintendo always has something ready to gain new interest. Look at how much publicity the 3DS has gotten. Do you think Nintendo is going to be stagnant when it somes to their next console release?

And castlevania (your avatar) is VERY different every time, especially the gameplay :roll:. Most games in a series are similar if you have not noticed. And as for the 3DS there is not that many remakes at all. Nintendo has star fox 64 and ocarina of time being remade with better graphics, 3D, and possibly more. other then that MGS3 is the only remake I remember. Seriously they are bringing us Kid Icarus, Paper mario (a new RPG one, which is overdue), Pilot Wings and more. Not to metion resident evil and other games coming.

Nintendo will take the same approach with the next console as they are the 3DS. The graphics will be enhanced and HD will be present, along with other things like better online, while innovating its current tech and addind a bit more. No the next console will probably not be as different as the Wii was, but it will still have changes as the DS to 3DS does. zelda with amazing HD graphics...sign me up!

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

they're interested in hd so they will be hd just a gen behind while ps4 and 720 are stronger the wii2 will be just as strong as the ps3 with a custom made cpu just like the wii is now.

up the motion controls and make it attractive you have more dev support since they are power hungry and an attractive console with also the name brand going on. your going to sell millions. they should be fine next gen too.

SakusEnvoy

I joke that the next Wii console will be a 3D laptop, but really, going unconventional -- going different -- it's the best way for Nintendo to thrive.

not like the ps move because unlike sony nintendo has icons that moves systems. regardless nintendo has to up the graphics in the forthcoming years when the new systems are out to still have xbox graphics are not going to work again they just had perfect timing since many people did not have hd tv's but now hd is almost standard.

Since the ps move does not have a lot of support yet(it didnt launch yet but the lineup is revisioned old games with move support tacked on)the wii2 will since its going the same direction as the 3ds.

nintendo success for the home front is drived on their handhelds and so they will follow the 3ds formula,they are going to add some new features yea but thats my idea of what they would do because at that time while the ps4 and 720 is going to be killer to develop for the wii2 with 360,ps3 level graphics will be cheaper since its relatively older tech.

Well they are in the best position. They can continue this gen for as long as they want and kick their competitors butt, or they can start next gen first.
I think they will wait.

Now that Nintendo has made more than enough money, am sure they'll make a console that will be on par of Sony's and Microsoft's next console.
Or will they opt for the cheaper option...

Now that Nintendo has made more than enough money, am sure they'll make a console that will be on par of Sony's and Microsoft's next console.
Or will they opt for the cheaper option...

g0ddyX

well i hope they think about the consumers next gen aswelll when making the hardware , i dont want them to be like sony and demand 599 from us

Now that Nintendo has made more than enough money, am sure they'll make a console that will be on par of Sony's and Microsoft's next console.
Or will they opt for the cheaper option...

g0ddyX

It's actually called the mass market option. By now the HDTV userbase is probably large enough for Nintendo to consider 720p.