How is the PS3 still considered overpriced?

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It could come with $2000 wroth of hardware and software...$400 is still too much for a game console.

magnetar1

The NES cost $350 in 1985 (Today would be $691.40)
The Genesis cost $390 in 1989 (Today would be $668.91)
The Playstation cost $300 in 1995 (Today would be $419.92)
The Saturn cost $400 in 1995 (Today would be $559.89)
For those that don't understand inflation. Buying a $350 NES in 1985 would be equivalent to putting down almost $700 on a console in todays money. So when you think about it. For what you get $400 on a PS3 is not much at all.

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It's "overpriced" because it gives fanboys an excuse to rip on the ps3

I just don't see why there are endless topics regarding how overpriced the PS3 is at this point in time. Constantly people say, "Sony needs to cut their price on PS3 or I just won't buy one, they are going to fail!" However, when you look online for a PS3, you can find one say on BestBuy's webiste for $399.99 @ 80GB with MGS4 and Killzone 2. Now compare that to the XBOX 360 Elite for $399.99 @ 120GB with KungFu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. I like both systems, but I just can't understand why someone would feel that it's overpriced at this point in time. You do get a blu-ray player out of the deal and even if you don't like blu-ray it still plays dvd's (amongst other things).

Is it just that people like to complain or feel some strange allegiance to one system or brand? Anyone else feel the overpriced argument is no longer valid?

magnetar1

the ps3 is not overpriced people just cant afford it

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I just don't see why there are endless topics regarding how overpriced the PS3 is at this point in time. Constantly people say, "Sony needs to cut their price on PS3 or I just won't buy one, they are going to fail!" However, when you look online for a PS3, you can find one say on BestBuy's webiste for $399.99 @ 80GB with MGS4 and Killzone 2. Now compare that to the XBOX 360 Elite for $399.99 @ 120GB with KungFu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. I like both systems, but I just can't understand why someone would feel that it's overpriced at this point in time. You do get a blu-ray player out of the deal and even if you don't like blu-ray it still plays dvd's (amongst other things).

Is it just that people like to complain or feel some strange allegiance to one system or brand? Anyone else feel the overpriced argument is no longer valid?

people_backword

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I just don't see why there are endless topics regarding how overpriced the PS3 is at this point in time. Constantly people say, "Sony needs to cut their price on PS3 or I just won't buy one, they are going to fail!" However, when you look online for a PS3, you can find one say on BestBuy's webiste for $399.99 @ 80GB with MGS4 and Killzone 2. Now compare that to the XBOX 360 Elite for $399.99 @ 120GB with KungFu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. I like both systems, but I just can't understand why someone would feel that it's overpriced at this point in time. You do get a blu-ray player out of the deal and even if you don't like blu-ray it still plays dvd's (amongst other things).

Is it just that people like to complain or feel some strange allegiance to one system or brand? Anyone else feel the overpriced argument is no longer valid?

DGDG1989

the ps3 is not overpriced people just cant afford it

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[QUOTE="DGDG1989"][QUOTE="people_backword"]Its overpriced because its not selling well! the 360 is at just the right price and the wii was under priced. If you talk about price, you intrinsically imply sales. HuusAsking

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[QUOTE="DGDG1989"] Last gen, the GCN was cheaper than the original Xbox but the Xbox outsold the GCN. Explain.DGDG1989

First off the 200 arcade crap is just junk, I am sorry, but that is the way it is. It's funny how when people talk about economics and PS3 they talk about a recession, but the xbox only came out a year before and most the games on it in that year weren't that much different than xbox 1. Yet millions of people bought that for 400.

Also what is this 2006? The PS3 has come out with plenty of games, ok so how about using a different argument than that garbage. Better multiplats are a thing of the past. It shpws how many people actually know something about the system.

I would say that from about june of 08 until right about now the PS3 has had the better games. Metal Gear Solid scored near perfect from the critics while Ninja Gaiden 2 was pretty average. Too Human flopped big time and wasn't that good at all. Valkyria scored extremely high while Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery scored average. The only High profile games to come out in 08 for 360 for the most part was Tales of Vesperia, Fable 2 and Gears of War 2. Little Big Planet was pretty claimed as most creative game of 08 and so forth. In early 09 Killzone 2 actually lived up pretty much to what it was supposed while Star Ocean did not and it sank it sales. MLB the Show came out and was hailed as the best baseball simulator out there. It is funny how MS canned Heavenly Sword but approved Ninja Blade. Ninja Blade is nothing but a ninja themed heavenly sword. It's funny how the 360 fanboys say that PS3 plays catchup when they are just getting a rip off of a game that came out 2 years ago. Wow the 360 owners are finally going to be able to get a taste of what it like to download a current generation game from the online store. The PS3 has been able to do that since 07 with Warhawk. Socom, Burnout Paradise, Ratchet and Clank Quest for Booty, and Siren Blood Curse are all games that are current generation that you can get on PS3 for download. Also I am pretty sure the video store on PSN came out before Netflix did on 360. Second of all Avatars are a rip off of Wii and third the PS3 has them in something called Home. Home might not be that great but it has avatars that you can actually use instead of just looking at. As far as the PS3 controller being PS1 type of controller I highly doubt that is the case. As far as I know all the PS3's from fall of 07 to now have dual shock in them. Rumble isn't that good anyway.

At least the controller doesn't use batteries and offers nothing new over the orignal xbox controller.

256 MB doesn't cut it for memory these days. You pretty much need a hard drive of some kind and not evey X box offers that which is pretty weird since all original Xbox's made that a selling point for the system.

It's funny how the xbots claim thatmost people don't have HDtv's for blu ray but claim an advantage of the 360 is that it comes with HD cables. You make no sense whatsoever. People don't have HDtv's but you should get a 360 because it comes with cables for a tv you don't have.

It's funny thatMS's main game is Halo 3 but you need a hard drive to play that game as well asBurnout paradise. Their biggest requires that their users own the pro orelite, so why sell the arcade version? If the arcade version is all that is needed then I guessthexbots assume that the "casual" gamer doesn't want to download games from the store then? You know sincethe market place has such a plethoraofgames and way more than PSNbut of course arcade users wouldn't want to check that out or demos either.

At the end of the day PS3 is the better deal, with all versions of the system being able to play all games. Withthe fall lineup of 09 and 2010plus free online and other features plus the deal at best buy, I mean really no contest atall. The360 arcade is a joke so that leaves the pro which is 300 plus 50 for online. Which means that everyone's whining and cryingis over 50 dollars more,which isn't that bad forsystem.

PS3 is overpriced because it's more expensive than 360 and yet does the exact same thing, with the exception of being able to purchase virtual clothes for your avatar. One lemmings trash is another cow's treasure. Or, value lies in the eye of the cow.

Because you're comparing the Elite which most people get the Pro anyway. Bottom line: $400 is a lot of money. sirkibble2

I'm pretty sure that if you were to separate every feature included in the PS3 and then sell them each individually, it would be more than $400. Bottom line: It's worth the money.

the PS3 is overpriced garbage. it always was and it will be for a while yet. it costs quite a bit more than the 360 and for what?

• a 15 year old controller
• inferior online
• inferior downloadable games
• access to non of the 360's exclusives or PC/360 multiplats
• a worse library of exclusives
• worse versions of multiplatform games
• load times and forced installs

it is one of the worst consoles ever made and one of the most overpriced. the only justification cows have got is blu-ray and wifi. blu ray is a non-gaming feature that actually has a detrimental effect on games and wifi saves you plugging a wire into the back of a box

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Because you're comparing the Elite which most people get the Pro anyway. Bottom line: $400 is a lot of money. sirkibble2

[QUOTE="sirkibble2"]Because you're comparing the Elite which most people get the Pro anyway. Bottom line: $400 is a lot of money. KH-mixerX

I'm pretty sure that if you were to separate every feature included in the PS3 and then sell them each individually, it would be more than $400. Bottom line: It's worth the money.

It's funny thatMS's main game is Halo 3 but you need a hard drive to play that game as well asBurnout paradise. Their biggest requires that their users own the pro orelite, so why sell the arcade version?gamenerd15

[QUOTE="sirkibble2"]Because you're comparing the Elite which most people get the Pro anyway. Bottom line: $400 is a lot of money. KH-mixerX

I'm pretty sure that if you were to separate every feature included in the PS3 and then sell them each individually, it would be more than $400. Bottom line: It's worth the money.

Bottom line - You don't know what value to the consumer means

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[QUOTE="sirkibble2"]Because you're comparing the Elite which most people get the Pro anyway. Bottom line: $400 is a lot of money. treedoor

I'm pretty sure that if you were to separate every feature included in the PS3 and then sell them each individually, it would be more than $400. Bottom line: It's worth the money.

Bottom line - You don't know what value to the consumer means

What is that suppose to mean? Everything I read in that seems to agree with what I said. The PS3 is a good deal. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. People need to shut their mouths about it being too expensive. It's almost a ****ing computer for cryin' out loud.

People tend to forget, that the PS3 has a Blu-Ray player too.

Buy a lose good quality Blu-Ray player and then we can talk further about the PS3 price.

And the 360 controller the cool new advanced thing? The controller on 360 isn't as good as the PS3 and the Dpad on the 360 blows hard. The inferior multiplat thing is from the past, inferior downloadable titles is an opinion. PSN might lack some features of the 360 but it has most things the 360 has other than the party stuff and in game chat. The whole 1 to 100 is stupid. It's funny how everyone names things wrong with the PS3 but you name things about it that are no longer a problem for most games. It doesn't matter if it the hardrive is "recommended" or what, all games should run evenly on all versions of the system a company puts out, everyone should be able to take advantage of basic features that the company offers like demos on the store and DLC for games. They shouldn't be cutting people out because their system can't do anything. MS is being unfair to the consumer by offering the arcade version fooling joe shomoe into thinking he is getting a valid system. Every system from the dawn of time has been able to be all games on all versions of the system.

NES version 1 and 2 can play all NES games

SNES version 1 and 2 can play all the games

All N64's can play all the N64 games

All PS1's can play all the PS1 games

All PS2's can play all the games with the exception of FF 11 because of limited technology back then

All GC's can play all GC games

All Xbox's can play all Xbox games

All PS3's can play all PS3 games

All Wii's can play all Wii games

You can't say the same with the 360

from 1up.com

"Every game will work with every Xbox 360 system. But just like some games will require you to have a Memory Unit to save games, some games will require you to have a Hard Drive to experience them."

"some games will require you to have a Hard Drive to experience them"

With the new Dashboard being able to download 360 games finally, people who have arcade version can't use that feature, Even if the games are only hard drive recommended you still can't buy games off of live with the arcade version, which means you can't play every game the system offers. What I am saying is that every system should be have access to be able to play all games digital or hard copy. The company shouldn't decide for the consumer what games he can or cannot play. The consumer has the right to play whatever game he wants to. When joe shmoe buys a system, he thinks he has access to ALL games on it. The Arcade is nothing but crap in the box.

Playing on the arcade version of 360 and and calling it the same as playing on the other versions is like the SNES version of Doom is the same as the PC version. Their not even close.

So with the arcade out of the picture, the comparison is between the basic pro vs the 80 GB PS3. For $50 dollars more for the PS3, that isn't a bad shake.

Is it more expensive than the 360? short answer a little bit, but it isn't the mountain of financial pain that people claim it to be.

Second of all never say you won't use any of the features in a system. I said I would never buy a game online, but I have. I thought I wouldn't put movies on my system, but I have. It happens to people. You buy something for one thing and then your using it more than you think. It is always better to have more than you need, then to wish you had something at a later time.

I am not even arguing that one is better than the other, but 400 dollars for what is inside is an ok deal and even better with the best buy deal.

Last time I checked there is a good 30 some odd exclusives on the system worth playing and more to come. So most of the arguments against getting a PS3 fall of deaf ears.

Second of all never say you won't use any of the features in a system. I said I would never buy a game online, but I have. I thought I wouldn't put movies on my system, but I have. It happens to people. You buy something for one thing and then your using it more than you think. It is always better to have more than you need, then to wish you had something at a later time.

gamenerd15

And back to the "you won't use any of the features", on the flip side of the coin, there are people who buy a PS3, 360, or whatever, for one reason only: to play games. If they had wanted to play BluRay movies, they'd have gotten a standalone player (they're not expensive anymore). That way, the kids or the mrs. can watch movies even while you're playing in the other room. They may not trust wireless Internet because they hear of encryption cracks and wardrivers. They may not like downloaded movies/games because physical discs can transport between generations or companies while downloads may not.

When you look at 400$ compared to 200$ of course 200$ seems more attractive. The truth is...that's a complete ignorant statement to say the least. 1xcalibur1

$200 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

$400 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

This is college lol.

[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"]When you look at 400$ compared to 200$ of course 200$ seems more attractive. The truth is...that's a complete ignorant statement to say the least. The__Havoc

$200 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

$400 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

This is college lol.

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[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"]When you look at 400$ compared to 200$ of course 200$ seems more attractive. The truth is...that's a complete ignorant statement to say the least. 1xcalibur1

$200 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

$400 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

This is college lol.

I think it has now dropped to pre-school level.

By your logic: PS3 is a rip-off because it does not play Halo 3, Fable 2, Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"]When you look at 400$ compared to 200$ of course 200$ seems more attractive. The truth is...that's a complete ignorant statement to say the least. 1xcalibur1

$200 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

$400 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

This is college lol.

Um have you ever been to a college campus man? Madden, FIFA, NCCA College Football. These are the games that run things man.

the ps3 is not overpriced people just cant afford it

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When you look at 400$ compared to 200$ of course 200$ seems more attractive. The truth is...that's a complete ignorant statement to say the least. 1xcalibur1

$200 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

$400 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

This is college lol.

the ps3 is not overpriced people just cant afford it

[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

$200 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

$400 system to play Madden, FIFA, Fight Night, and NCAA

This is college lol.

The__Havoc

Um have you ever been to a college campus man? Madden, FIFA, NCCA College Football. These are the games that run things man.

[QUOTE="sirkibble2"]Because you're comparing the Elite which most people get the Pro anyway. Bottom line: $400 is a lot of money. GiantMuffin

When you look at 400$ compared to 200$ of course 200$ seems more attractive. The truth is...that's a complete ignorant statement to say the least. PS3 now comes with 2 games which is a gain of 80$ (at least according to Amazon). PS3 has rechargeable lithium controllers - another 20$ on the Arcade PS3 has wifi built in - 360 adapter costs 100$ PS3 has an HDD built in with the possibility of an upgrade - 360's hdds range from 40$ to 140$ depends on the capacity PS3 has a bluray drive - the cheapest one available is 200$ as a standalone PS3's online is absolutely free whileas 360 annual fees start from 50$ If you take these numbers into consideration you'll realize that PS3 is actually a whole lot cheaper. But ignorance is a bliss and people have the tendency in looking strictly at price tags.1xcalibur1

How much is too much to play that PS3 game you have been dying to play?

What are you willing to pay for that experiance? I know people who buy the PS3 version of Madden and would do so even if the 360 one was cheaper because they like the controller better.

If you can't afford the retail, then buy used, gamefly, do gaming on the cheap. If you are really desperate see if a friend wants one too and go in on it together.

Value is something the consumer decides.

How much is too much to play that PS3 game you have been dying to play?

What are you willing to pay for that experiance? I know people who buy the PS3 version of Madden and would do so even if the 360 one was cheaper because they like the controller better.

If you can't afford the retail, then buy used, gamefly, do gaming on the cheap. If you are really desperate see if a friend wants one too and go in on it together.

Value is something the consumer decides.

Because its losing the console war

How much is too much to play that PS3 game you have been dying to play?

What are you willing to pay for that experiance? I know people who buy the PS3 version of Madden and would do so even if the 360 one was cheaper because they like the controller better.

If you can't afford the retail, then buy used, gamefly, do gaming on the cheap. If you are really desperate see if a friend wants one too and go in on it together.

Value is something the consumer decides.

In Italy a PS3 is 399 euros, a 360 pro (plus halo wars) si 230 euros... do the math... Not everybody is willing to pay 400 euros (which by the way is 569 dollars) for a gaming console.

Indeed.

I just don't see why there are endless topics regarding how overpriced the PS3 is at this point in time. Constantly people say, "Sony needs to cut their price on PS3 or I just won't buy one, they are going to fail!" However, when you look online for a PS3, you can find one say on BestBuy's webiste for $399.99 @ 80GB with MGS4 and Killzone 2. Now compare that to the XBOX 360 Elite for $399.99 @ 120GB with KungFu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. I like both systems, but I just can't understand why someone would feel that it's overpriced at this point in time. You do get a blu-ray player out of the deal and even if you don't like blu-ray it still plays dvd's (amongst other things).

Is it just that people like to complain or feel some strange allegiance to one system or brand? Anyone else feel the overpriced argument is no longer valid?

magnetar1

None of the bundled stuff matters when consumers realize that they're going to have to dish out 400 dollars for a hobby.

I agree that it's not really that overpriced, but your average guy is still looking at a 400 dollar pricetag, compared to the 360's 200-300, and the Wii's 250.