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#1 -supercharged-
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Someone please enlighten me... I really can't see anything that makes the Wii worth how much Nintendo is asking for it. Is the motion sensing technology really that expensive or somethin?
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#2 Magical_Guy
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it's not worth $250, Nintendo is making a lot of money off of it.
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#3 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Value is determined by demand and willingness for consumers to part with their money.

The Wii is probably worth slightly more than $300.

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#4 Hewkii
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you already know how this topic goes. you ask this, we provide a reason, you say that doesn't make it worth it, we say it does, you say that sheep are childish, etc.
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#5 anasbouzid
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wii cost 200 bucks to make

they make about 40 buck a console....

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#6 Eponique
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A Wii package costs $170 to make and is sold to retailers for $190. And then sold at $250 in the US and $200 in Japan.

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you already know how this topic goes. you ask this, we provide a reason, you say that doesn't make it worth it, we say it does, you say that sheep are childish, etc.Hewkii

wow, you pretty much killed this thread...

there you go agian sherlock (sp), telling us whos guilty of what ahead of time

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#8 Ontain
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Value is determined by demand and willingness for consumers to part with their money.

The Wii is probably worth slightly more than $300.

Jandurin

exactly right. if value was in the component why would you pay more than a few dollars for clothes that are made in 3rd world nations for a less than a buck?

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#9 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I think it's more like $212, Eponique.
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#10 -supercharged-
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you already know how this topic goes. you ask this, we provide a reason, you say that doesn't make it worth it, we say it does, you say that sheep are childish, etc.Hewkii

I wouldnt be making assumptions about me you dont know me...

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#11 Zerostatic0
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How is the first Superman comic (Action Comics #1) worth tens of thousands of dollars? It says 10 cents right on the cover!!!
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#12 ramey70
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Worth is determined by the individual. The Wii may be worth as much as $500 to some and as little as $50 to someone else.
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#13 -supercharged-
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How is the first Superman comic (Action Comics #1) worth tens of thousands of dollars? It says 10 cents right on the cover!!!Zerostatic0

and guess how much the first Nintendo system is worth... :|

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]you already know how this topic goes. you ask this, we provide a reason, you say that doesn't make it worth it, we say it does, you say that sheep are childish, etc.-supercharged-

I wouldnt be making assumptions about me you dont know me...

Maybe not but this tread has been done more times than I care to count...

Something is worth what ever someone is willing to pay.....That it

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Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13.00
DRAM: $7.80
Optical disk drive: $31.00
Power supply: $11.30
Manufacturing cost: $19.50
Cost total: $158.30

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/wii/story/35848/

However,this does not include Wii Sports,Wii-mote,and Nunchuck,which would raise the total cost to somewhere near $250.

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#16 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]How is the first Superman comic (Action Comics #1) worth tens of thousands of dollars? It says 10 cents right on the cover!!!-supercharged-

and guess how much the first Nintendo system is worth... :|

the Nintendo itself is not rare but a good one sells for about $50 but there are games on the system that go into high $100s

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#17 Eponique
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Here's the link.

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#18 GunSmith1_basic
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Nintendo makes a pretty huge profit off every console sold. Something around $70 I think (considering all the extra stuff you get, like controllers and wiisports).

Justification?

-the console will sell for under $100, probably as soon as demand dies down. A $99 would be so hot that it would have a negative image as a result. It's the the market. It's like all those people that criticise the oil companies for marking up gas prices. Oil still costs the same to produce, but demand dictates that that they sell at higher price or supply would crumble

-when you innovate in smart ways like nintendo did, you get rewarded. Any idiot can spend billions of dollars andproduce an exciting piece of tech. That's what sony and ms did, and we have to pay a lot for their consoles as a result. I dont think anyone would agree that the price of thehardware capabilityis what the wii is worth. That totally overlooks motion sensing, which is the selling point of the wii, as well as one of its least expensive aspects. Nintendo brought it all together, at HUGE risk and are rewarded for it now. Sony and MS took the safe route, which is costly to them and us

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#19 fierro316
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For some people is worth > $300
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#20 Ninja-Vox
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Miyamoto wanted to sell it for $100. :)
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#21 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Value is determined by demand and willingness for consumers to part with their money.

The Wii is probably worth slightly more than $300.

Ontain

exactly right. if value was in the component why would you pay more than a few dollars for clothes that are made in 3rd world nations for a less than a buck?

We have a winner, Im not buying the raw production conponets im buying the final product at the price I think it's worth, no amount of cost accounting will tell me if it's "worht" it or not.

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Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13.00
DRAM: $7.80
Optical disk drive: $31.00
Power supply: $11.30
Manufacturing cost: $19.50
Cost total: $158.30

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/wii/story/35848/

However,this does not include Wii Sports,Wii-mote,and Nunchuck,which would raise the total cost to somewhere near $250.

VGobbsesser

I read the Wiimote costs $7 to make and the Nunchuck around $4, sorry I don't have a link. But its old technology already, its just never been used together before.

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#23 -supercharged-
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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]How is the first Superman comic (Action Comics #1) worth tens of thousands of dollars? It says 10 cents right on the cover!!!HarlockJC

and guess how much the first Nintendo system is worth... :|

the Nintendo itself is not rare but a good one sells for about $50 but there are games on the system that go into high $100s

Exactly ;) Nintendo systems dont hold their value very well :P

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#24 hazuki87
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A Wii package costs $170 to make and is sold to retailers for $190. And then sold at $250 in the US and $200 in Japan.

Eponique

There ya go right there.

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#25 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

A Wii package costs $170 to make and is sold to retailers for $190. And then sold at $250 in the US and $200 in Japan.

hazuki87

There ya go right there.

Its £180 in the UK which is like $360, disgusting.

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#26 Smoke_ManMuscle
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The only people who will still be asking that question after Metroid comes out are the fanboys. But right now, it depends on your gaming tastes.
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#27 SpruceCaboose
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I've gotten $250 worth out of it so far.
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#28 hazuki87
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[QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

A Wii package costs $170 to make and is sold to retailers for $190. And then sold at $250 in the US and $200 in Japan.

tomarlyn

There ya go right there.

Its £180 in the UK which is like $360, disgusting.

I dont know a lot about exchange rates and such but if your figures are correct and the Wii is the equivalant of 360 US dollars then yeah, thats horrendous.

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#29 Eponique
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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]

Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13.00
DRAM: $7.80
Optical disk drive: $31.00
Power supply: $11.30
Manufacturing cost: $19.50
Cost total: $158.30

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/wii/story/35848/

However,this does not include Wii Sports,Wii-mote,and Nunchuck,which would raise the total cost to somewhere near $250.

tomarlyn

I read the Wiimote costs $7 to make and the Nunchuck around $4, sorry I don't have a link. But its old technology already, its just never been used together before.

Now add Wii Sports, and voila!

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#30 Ontain
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]How is the first Superman comic (Action Comics #1) worth tens of thousands of dollars? It says 10 cents right on the cover!!!-supercharged-

and guess how much the first Nintendo system is worth... :|

the Nintendo itself is not rare but a good one sells for about $50 but there are games on the system that go into high $100s

Exactly ;) Nintendo systems dont hold their value very well :P

collectibles are about rarity and condition. the NES was popular and sold millions (not rare) and they were built well.

most probably still work. i wouldn't be comfortable saying that about the original psone's :)

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#31 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

A Wii package costs $170 to make and is sold to retailers for $190. And then sold at $250 in the US and $200 in Japan.

tomarlyn

There ya go right there.

Its £180 in the UK which is like $360, disgusting.

yeah but how much does ps3 and 360 cost there?
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#32 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]How is the first Superman comic (Action Comics #1) worth tens of thousands of dollars? It says 10 cents right on the cover!!!-supercharged-

and guess how much the first Nintendo system is worth... :|

the Nintendo itself is not rare but a good one sells for about $50 but there are games on the system that go into high $100s

Exactly ;) Nintendo systems dont hold their value very well :P

No system does..only the games do..I can pick up any sega system for around $20 besides the master because it rare and I can pick up a PS1 for about the same price.....

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#33 GundamGuy0
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I've gotten $250 worth out of it so far.SpruceCaboose

I've enjoyed it, and plan on buying more games... this fall looks great for the Wii, so yes I'd say money well spent.

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#34 -supercharged-
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The only people who will still be asking that question after Metroid comes out are the fanboys. But right now, it depends on your gaming tastes.Smoke_ManMuscle

Oh so just because somebody doesnt like Metroid is automatically a fanboy?

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#35 -supercharged-
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No system does..only the games do..I can pick up any sega system for around $20 besides the master because it rare and I can pick up a PS1 for about the same price.....

HarlockJC

The Xbox and PS2 has held their values longer than the Gamecube :P

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#36 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]The only people who will still be asking that question after Metroid comes out are the fanboys. But right now, it depends on your gaming tastes.-supercharged-

Oh so just because somebody doesnt like Metroid is automatically a fanboy?

No if you don't think it's a game worht playing regardless of your tates then your a fanboy. If you don't like it thats ok as long as you admit it's a game thats worth playing to those who do like it.

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#37 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]The only people who will still be asking that question after Metroid comes out are the fanboys. But right now, it depends on your gaming tastes.GundamGuy0

Oh so just because somebody doesnt like Metroid is automatically a fanboy?

No if you don't think it's a game worht playing regardless of your tates then your a fanboy. If you don't like it thats ok as long as you admit it's a game thats worth playing to those who do like it.

Your first statement is poor. I don't like Zelda, so to me, its not worth playing. For other people, I am more than sure it is.

But you could use the same arguement for every game out there. I am sure somewhere, if you looked hard enough, you could find someone who liked Big Rigs.

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#38 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]The only people who will still be asking that question after Metroid comes out are the fanboys. But right now, it depends on your gaming tastes.SpruceCaboose

Oh so just because somebody doesnt like Metroid is automatically a fanboy?

No if you don't think it's a game worht playing regardless of your tates then your a fanboy. If you don't like it thats ok as long as you admit it's a game thats worth playing to those who do like it.

Your first statement is poor. I don't like Zelda, so to me, its not worth playing. For other people, I am more than sure it is.

But you could use the same arguement for every game out there. I am sure somewhere, if you looked hard enough, you could find someone who liked Big Rigs.

Totaly, but see that's the problem with systemwars and people in general we can't understand why other people like what they do. If someone thinks big rigs is worht playing by all means let them play it.

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#39 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

A Wii package costs $170 to make and is sold to retailers for $190. And then sold at $250 in the US and $200 in Japan.

GunSmith1_basic

There ya go right there.

Its £180 in the UK which is like $360, disgusting.

yeah but how much does ps3 and 360 cost there?

More, but you get better than an overclocked Gamecube. In terms of value the Wii is rock bottom.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

No system does..only the games do..I can pick up any sega system for around $20 besides the master because it rare and I can pick up a PS1 for about the same price.....

-supercharged-

The Xbox and PS2 has held their values longer than the Gamecube :P

And the N64 has held it value better than the PS1 or the Saturn...Also there is only a $40between the cost of the PS2, GC and XBox. Plus the Wii is the only next gen system that is 100% backwards compatible with the last gen system making there no reason for a person who owns a Wii to have a GC well the same can not be said for PS or M$ fans

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Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13.00
DRAM: $7.80
Optical disk drive: $31.00
Power supply: $11.30
Manufacturing cost: $19.50
Cost total: $158.30

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/wii/story/35848/

However,this does not include Wii Sports,Wii-mote,and Nunchuck,which would raise the total cost to somewhere near $250.

VGobbsesser

Well, also you need to include packaging, shipping and handling, labor costs, profit for Nintendo, and profit for the retailers. All in all, $250 seems reasonable to me from a pure cost aspect.

As for value, I know I've gotten well over $250 worth of enjoyment out of my Wii.

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#42 Heil68
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Its called supply and demand...I think the PS3 is showing the exact opposite..
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#43 SpruceCaboose
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Totaly, but see that's the problem with systemwars and people in general we can't understand why other people like what they do. If someone thinks big rigs is worht playing by all means let them play it.

GundamGuy0

Very true. That is why I spend most of my time debating illogical statements and defending whatever system is being "kicked", since its simple to just bash everything, and it seems that some people only like to bash. I try to stay on the positive side in most cases, as everything has value to someone, and everything has good and bad qualities alike.

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#44 hojobojo
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Nintendo makes a pretty huge profit off every console sold. Something around $70 I think (considering all the extra stuff you get, like controllers and wiisports).

Justification?

-the console will sell for under $100, probably as soon as demand dies down. A $99 would be so hot that it would have a negative image as a result. It's the the market. It's like all those people that criticise the oil companies for marking up gas prices. Oil still costs the same to produce, but demand dictates that that they sell at higher price or supply would crumble

-when you innovate in smart ways like nintendo did, you get rewarded. Any idiot can spend billions of dollars andproduce an exciting piece of tech. That's what sony and ms did, and we have to pay a lot for their consoles as a result. I dont think anyone would agree that the price of thehardware capabilityis what the wii is worth. That totally overlooks motion sensing, which is the selling point of the wii, as well as one of its least expensive aspects. Nintendo brought it all together, at HUGE risk and are rewarded for it now. Sony and MS took the safe route, which is costly to them and us

GunSmith1_basic

Haha that's what we learnt in Economics.

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#45 HarlockJC
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Its called supply and demand...I think the PS3 is showing the exact opposite..Heil68

which is correct you can get a PS3 or 360 on ebay forretail price...Where the Wii is selling above retail price

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#46 SecretPolice
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Pet rocks were sold and the company marketing them made millions :)
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Pet rocks were sold and the company marketing them made millions :)SecretPolice
Lucky ****s.
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#48 Video_Game_King
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It's worth $210, Wii Sports is about $30 (?), so they make a $10 profit.
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#49 iboo01
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In my opinion the price drop for the wii is cmin soon
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#50 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Pet rocks were sold and the company marketing them made millions :)Jandurin
Lucky ****s.

Agreed - if only I knew then what I know now - hell I must have rocks in my head !