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#101 OldParr
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NO!!! because they implied the movement in a good way for consoles
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#102 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="l1mIt"]because u pay for it? :roll: what are your reasons to justify throwing money down the drainl1mIt

and who justify buying a 600 console :?

compare to a 400 one... were you save 200

480$ for the elite milked version. + tax = 500$... 100$less than PS3

oh and 5years of XBL = 250$

hddvd 200$

wireless network adapter 100$

chargekit 30$

so thats what? 1080$ to compare it to what the PS3 has for 600$

Last ditch effort of a desperate Sony fanboy. The other Sony fanboys have left this behind months ago, spud. So should you.

And the last time I checked you pay taxes on a PS3 as well ;)

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#104 Yellow_Rose
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you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

l1mIt

So tell me, spud. With all those great PS3 features, why is the 360 still outselling the PS3 2 to 1?

Why is the PS3 currently selling worse than the GC used to?

Why....oh why? :cry:

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#105 ChevelleFan
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because u pay for it? :roll: what are your reasons to justify throwing money down the drainl1mIt

Right now the advantages are:

-Every game has achievements

-More downloadable as well as better downloadable content such as TV shows and movies

-Every game is Xbox Live enabled

-Chat and instant messaging different games

-You can play custom music tracks instead of game music

-As of know there is a greater and bigger community

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#107 -Karmum-
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better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

kenmid

Tired of typing that much...? Yeah...:P

But yeah, this dude has hit it on the money. WoW - great game, but a subscription. Guild Wars - free, good, but misses on alot of things. Rather similar games.

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#108 l1mIt
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[QUOTE="l1mIt"]

you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

Yellow_Rose

So tell me, spud. With all those great PS3 features, why is the 360 still outselling the PS3 2 to 1?

Why is the PS3 currently selling worse than the GC used to?

Why....oh why? :cry:

xflop has a years worth of more games. spud

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#109 fixer293
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="l1mIt"]

you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

l1mIt

So tell me, spud. With all those great PS3 features, why is the 360 still outselling the PS3 2 to 1?

Why is the PS3 currently selling worse than the GC used to?

Why....oh why? :cry:

xflop has a years worth of more games. spud

And who has more AAA's?

And who is in the lead?

Go troll elsewhere.

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#110 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="l1mIt"]

you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

l1mIt

So tell me, spud. With all those great PS3 features, why is the 360 still outselling the PS3 2 to 1?

Why is the PS3 currently selling worse than the GC used to?

Why....oh why? :cry:

xflop has a years worth of more games. spud



Did GC have more than ps3 has?
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#111 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="l1mIt"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="l1mIt"]because u pay for it? :roll: what are your reasons to justify throwing money down the drainl1mIt

and who justify buying a 600 console :?

compare to a 400 one... were you save 200

480$ for the elite milked version. + tax = 500$... 100$less than PS3

oh and 5years of XBL = 250$

hddvd 200$

wireless network adapter 100$

chargekit 30$

so thats what? 1080$ to compare it to what the PS3 has for 600$

Last ditch effort of a desperate Sony fanboy. The other Sony fanboys have left this behind months ago, spud. So should you.

And the last time I checked you pay taxes on a PS3 as well ;)

you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

There's a reason these features are optional,because they're not needed. You can try to spin things all you want but in order to play games on an Xbox 360 it will cost you $300-$500, in order to do it on the PS3 it will cost you $600.

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#112 farhan007
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You can send messages to people playing games and they will see them. But until its updated, you have to leave the game to read it. But things like this, I'm sure will be fixed over time.caseypayne69
why do you not **** read the messesges about how its easier for devs to make online portions of their games on live!!! WHY ARE THERE SO MANY MORE LIVE GAMES!!!! DAMN DONT INGRORE REBUTALLS THAT ACTUALLY MAKE YOU FAIL!
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#113 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="l1mIt"]

you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

l1mIt

So tell me, spud. With all those great PS3 features, why is the 360 still outselling the PS3 2 to 1?

Why is the PS3 currently selling worse than the GC used to?

Why....oh why? :cry:

xflop has a years worth of more games. spud

In other words, what you're saying is that most people couldn't give 2 craps about all the great features the PS3 has?

You finally get it now. ;)

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#114 sparkypants
Member since 2007 • 2609 Posts

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

kenmid

-What is "Better Online"?

- I can understand more being XBL but thats because PSN is just now getting great

-Arcade games? uh PSN has that too!

-Umm I can watch tv shows on MY TV and I have an iPod so I can download podcasts onto that if I need to.

- I got messenger too

so keeptyping I couldnt find anything better!

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#115 farhan007
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[QUOTE="Riki101"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Paying for something adds invisible value that xbox owns think they are getting. When ina year PSN will have similiar options for free.fuzzysquash

And by the time that happens, who's to say Live will not have expanded it's features as well?

exactly

question is, what will be Microsoft's answer to Home?

question is what is sony's answer to 360's online gaming?
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#116 farhan007
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="l1mIt"]because u pay for it? :roll: what are your reasons to justify throwing money down the drainl1mIt

and who justify buying a 600 console :?

compare to a 400 one... were you save 200

480$ for the elite milked version. + tax = 500$... 100$less than PS3

oh and 5years of XBL = 250$

hddvd 200$

wireless network adapter 100$

chargekit 30$

so thats what? 1080$ to compare it to what the PS3 has for 600$

what if i dont need a hddvd player, wireless network adapter, and charge kit?
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#117 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

sparkypants

-What is "Better Online"

- I can understand more being XBL but thats because PSN is just now getting great. Sony had its chance to get their act together since the PS2 was online. The fact that they decided not to give it the attention they should have is not an excuse for them. They dropped the ball and are now playing catch-up to XBL.

-Arcade games? uh PSN has that too! But their offerings are miniscule compared to what XBLA has. We can also go into the features of these games as well.

-Umm I can watch tv shows on MY TV and I have an iPod so I can download podcasts onto that if I need to. So you need extra equipment to do what XBL offers from one place? XBL has much much more content than what PSN has in terms of media. What's ironic is that Sony is supposedly more connected with all its movie studios, and yet, XBL has built the partnerships and actually has programming... from the community, from TV and from movies.

- I got messenger too Again... you have to have another piece of hardware to equal what XBL has

so keeptyping I couldnt find anything better!

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#118 lowe0
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you lemmings do realize that features XBL has that PSN doesnt, PSN will soon get... for FREEl1mIt
And what, the biggest software company on the planet is just going to sit still?
As for why it's worth it, I'm willing to pay a little extra for something that "just works".  It's why I like my Mac, even though most people think they're overpriced.  Xbox Live makes it very easy to find my friends, regardless of what they're playing.  It lets me send out messages and play something else while I wait for everyone to respond, instead of just sitting in the dashboard.  It provides features like Forza 2's auction house.  
Yeah, if you used a combination of phone and IM, and your friends get up from whatever they're playing to answer, you could track all your friends down and play a PS3 game.  Yeah, if you use BitTorrent and make sure everything's in a format supported by the PS3, you can watch video.  However, it's all right there, done right, in a great interface.  I spend all day writing software, and I don't want to come home to expend any more effort on using technology, even though I know how.  I just want it to work so I can relax and play a game.
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#119 dumfart66
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="l1mIt"]

you that deep in denial? to ignore how much xflop would cost to be on par with PS3s features :lol:

l1mIt

So tell me, spud. With all those great PS3 features, why is the 360 still outselling the PS3 2 to 1?

Why is the PS3 currently selling worse than the GC used to?

Why....oh why? :cry:

xflop has a years worth of more games. spud

My god you are incredible with your logic. You are the same guy who buys the cheap cola for 10 cents and laughs at the guy enjoiying his coca cola. You get what you pay for, and that counts with all things in this world. Sony does not have dedicated servers like the xbox live service, which is why companies are less willing to make games for the sony online service. Wait untill psn gets alot of users, you will see that you get what you pay for.

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#120 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

caseypayne69

Better online? No PS3 games lag. So its not better.

More people? Well that will change as more people buy a PS3, just a matter of time.

Arcade games? u mean downloadable games right? PS3 has thoughs too.

Download tv? What you can watch regular cable/sat tv? (I know 360 users throw the argument of surfing the web on ur PS3 is stupid.) But at least a pc isn't in every room in the house, but a tv to watch tv probably is. Surfing web > watching tv.

Your post failed.

1: no Ps3 games period. I mean the only two online games that are worthwhile are Motorstorm and Resistance. And they get pretty boring after a while.

2: Agreed. Bad point made by original poster. It doesn't justify 50$s

3: Well the arcade games are plentiful. They have a huge xbox live arcade library going with all the classics revamped with achievements, leaderboards, multiplayer, and hd graphics.

4. He meant download movies and shows. You can also download some music videos and trailers for movies and crap.

Now here's what I have to say:

The main reason xbox live is so great is because of all the features and the fluiditity of how they all work together.

Sending messages (be it text and voice) is seamless and very fast,

organizing friends (up to 100) is easy and efficient,

the flow of downloadable content (media, entertainment) that comes through the marketplace is immense (everytime I go to it I see new content like demos and videos),

every single game (and I mean every single game) is xbox live supported meaning it has online multiplayer or downloadable content (mostly multiplayer..with exceptions like Oblivion),

there are constant updates for games and the 360 dashboard and overall system,

patches are made for problems in the game and handed out easily,

multiplayer varies from dedicated servers or player servers,

MSN messenger is great to use,

Voice chat with friends while playing different games at once,

Safe and Secure and Microsoft performs maintenance regurarly,

And basically: Great service overall with everything you need.

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#121 ff7isnumbaone
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Because they paid for it.....duh.
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#122 D0013ER
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Because they paid for it.....duh.ff7isnumbaone

Sounds like the very same reason cows like Blu-ray...

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#123 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="kcm_117"]

Oh and Demos too...dunno if PSN has that.

btw..what does QFT mean :)?

LosDaddie

PSN has demos, just no online multiplayer demos.

QFT = Quoted For Truth

Full Auto 2?
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#124 Puckhog04
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Cows whining about paying $50/1 year to play online, yet actually dished out $600 for a console with one worthwhile game atm (resistance)...

Now that's irony...along with a few other things including a double standard.

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#125 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]Because they paid for it.....duh.D0013ER

Sounds like the very same reason cows like Blu-ray...

what??! Ur not making any sense. It comes with the console. Live don't, U have keep buying year after year.

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#126 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]Because they paid for it.....duh.ff7isnumbaone

Sounds like the very same reason cows like Blu-ray...

what??! Ur not making any sense. It comes with the console. Live don't, U have keep buying year after year.

Yet you pay an extra $200 for a Bluray player. What he said makes perfect sense, you just aren't catching on. And, yes, Live does come with the console. You just have to input the information to get an account (which takes roughly 5 minutes). A Mic and everything comes with the console. Learn facts before you speak.

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#127 gogeta242
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This is the reason Why we pay :

in 2 years , on PSN , There will be no more RFOM Online , no More MGS4 online , no more Warhawk (online game) ,no more KZ2 ( online ), no more Haze ( online ) , NO more Multiplats game online , no more anything that get released this year , or earlier , on PS3 .

In 2 years , on Xbox live , I will still be able to play Halo 2 , Conqer , Forza 1 ,Forza 2 , Halo 3 , Gears of war , Lost planet , Shadowrun ( The game got low rating , but it's awsome :P ) , every Single Multiplats/Exclusive games , since Xbox 1, will still be playable online .

Prid3r
This isn't true, I don't know why MGS went offline but just about all of my PS2 games still have online play. Killzone is still online, Ratchet and clank is still online, and so is Call of Duty: Finest Hour, those are 2003-2004 games. I think that since PS3 has a much more advanced online service than PS2 did, we won't see any games go offline for PS3.
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#128 -wii60-
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free or not xbox live still better than psn.
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#129 Platearmor_6
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So what if I pay for eggbox live? I've built up a friends list, most of which don't have a PS3. And its what I'm used to. Why should anyone bother to change. The same goes for the PSN users. Can some of the Cows around here just get a grip.
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#130 -wii60-
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So what if I pay for eggbox live? I've built up a friends list, most of which don't have a PS3. And its what I'm used to. Why should anyone bother to change. The same goes for the PSN users. Can some of the Cows around here just get a grip.Platearmor_6


u're asking so much.
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#131 Impex
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

I love how even the guy at Sony in charge of PSN happily admitted that xbox live was a better feature filled service, but sony were going for a different approach with the free service; yet cows are still adament that PSN is just as good.

Face it guys; Live is better. He even said that a few years down the line if PSN evolves into something more like xbox live they'll consider charging.

LosDaddie

It's hilarious watching cows struggle with admitting a PAID SERVICE is superior to a FREE SERVICE.

:lol:

Ok, that about sums up this thread here... :lol:

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#132 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

I love how even the guy at Sony in charge of PSN happily admitted that xbox live was a better feature filled service, but sony were going for a different approach with the free service; yet cows are still adament that PSN is just as good.

Face it guys; Live is better. He even said that a few years down the line if PSN evolves into something more like xbox live they'll consider charging.

Impex

It's hilarious watching cows struggle with admitting a PAID SERVICE is superior to a FREE SERVICE.

:lol:

Ok, that about sums up this thread here... :lol:

Ouch now that's some harsh ownage.

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#133 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="bear1961"][QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online Xbox live has been out for about 5 years, playstation network, 1

more people online if a console has been out for a whole extra, more people are bound to buy it.

arcade games playstation has that too.

download t.v. shows i wont need to because i can watch video for free while using my internet browser

messenger ours will be up to par by early 2008

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing? no go to bed because you need your head examined for posting this incorrect garbage.

TheDarkDisciple

since you're reading from the first page, continue to read because you probably got owned somewhere in this thread, you just don't know yet

Let me tell you something here, you say that PSN has been out for 1 year even less that's an excuse...Xbox Live came out in the year 2002 and it beat expectations really fast...Now by the time SONY ''Updates'' PSN, Xbox Live will be the one and only online service any console has ever offered...And saying that he posted incorrect garbage maybe you should check out Xbox Live's features andplease I BEG YOU tell me it's worse than crappy PSN....And no TheDarkDisciple don't go to sleep, saty awake and let's give these little SONY fanboys some big ownage...

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#134 MrPostman4Chi
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XBL has over 6 million users and PSN has like,100 users.LOL
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#135 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

VoodooHak

-What is "Better Online"

- I can understand more being XBL but thats because PSN is just now getting great. Sony had its chance to get their act together since the PS2 was online. The fact that they decided not to give it the attention they should have is not an excuse for them. They dropped the ball and are now playing catch-up to XBL.

-Arcade games? uh PSN has that too! But their offerings are miniscule compared to what XBLA has. We can also go into the features of these games as well.

-Umm I can watch tv shows on MY TV and I have an iPod so I can download podcasts onto that if I need to. So you need extra equipment to do what XBL offers from one place? XBL has much much more content than what PSN has in terms of media. What's ironic is that Sony is supposedly more connected with all its movie studios, and yet, XBL has built the partnerships and actually has programming... from the community, from TV and from movies.

- I got messenger too Again... you have to have another piece of hardware to equal what XBL has

so keeptyping I couldnt find anything better!

you still fail to answer my question what IS "better online"?

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#136 wallpaper42
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better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

kenmid

PSN has all that except for TV shows... Which I don't think the 360 had that when it was as old as the PS3 either.

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#137 Shadow2k6
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XBL has over 6 million users and PSN has like,100 users.LOLMrPostman4Chi

What a idiot the PSN has over 1.5 million. They said there was about 1.5 million users about a month ago so it could be more now.

Yes XBL is better but who knows, time will tell.

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#138 OGTiago
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You just have to trust us that it is.

Also, Halo 3.

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#139 KingTuttle
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

MADVLAD123

Better online? No PS3 games lag. So its not better.

More people? Well that will change as more people buy a PS3, just a matter of time.

Arcade games? u mean downloadable games right? PS3 has thoughs too.

Download tv? What you can watch regular cable/sat tv? (I know 360 users throw the argument of surfing the web on ur PS3 is stupid.) But at least a pc isn't in every room in the house, but a tv to watch tv probably is. Surfing web > watching tv.

Your post failed.

1: no Ps3 games period. I mean the only two online games that are worthwhile are Motorstorm and Resistance. And they get pretty boring after a while.

2: Agreed. Bad point made by original poster. It doesn't justify 50$s

3: Well the arcade games are plentiful. They have a huge xbox live arcade library going with all the classics revamped with achievements, leaderboards, multiplayer, and hd graphics.

4. He meant download movies and shows. You can also download some music videos and trailers for movies and crap.

Now here's what I have to say:

The main reason xbox live is so great is because of all the features and the fluiditity of how they all work together.

Sending messages (be it text and voice) is seamless and very fast,

organizing friends (up to 100) is easy and efficient,

the flow of downloadable content (media, entertainment) that comes through the marketplace is immense (everytime I go to it I see new content like demos and videos),

every single game (and I mean every single game) is xbox live supported meaning it has online multiplayer or downloadable content (mostly multiplayer..with exceptions like Oblivion),

there are constant updates for games and the 360 dashboard and overall system,

patches are made for problems in the game and handed out easily,

multiplayer varies from dedicated servers or player servers,

MSN messenger is great to use,

Voice chat with friends while playing different games at once,

Safe and Secure and Microsoft performs maintenance regurarly,

And basically: Great service overall with everything you need.

Thanks.

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#140 DarkRider23
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Paying for something adds invisible value that xbox owns think they are getting. When ina year PSN will have similiar options for free.caseypayne69

Ahh yes, the un-informed. Sony has said that PSN will not be free forever. You'll eventually start paying too.

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#141 SgtWhiskeyjack
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I don't see why other people care what I spend my money on. Why don't they bring up the subscription price of wow, that's twice what we pay a year and it's only one game and people still type to talk :lol:

I love XBL, it's great and I've got some really great friends on it. It doesn't feel like a feature, it's an integral part of a 360.

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#142 LinKuei_warrior
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Paying for something adds invisible value that xbox owns think they are getting. When ina year PSN will have similiar options for free.caseypayne69

it darn well better be free if your gonna pony up 600$ for it

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#143 PotatoSan
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as I've said before, I believe the benefits of Live can extend the value of your games way more than another game could. XBL$50 > one more game per year for 60.
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#144 imprezawrx500
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better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

kenmid

how is the online better?

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#145 DoctorBunny
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Paying for something adds invisible value that xbox owns think they are getting. When ina year PSN will have similiar options for free.LinKuei_warrior

it darn well better be free if your gonna pony up 600$ for it

And have to wait a year for the same features when live will once again be a year ahead in features/content. Then we will have to wait another year for psn to catch up?

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#146 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

kcm_117

cross-game invites

a unified Gamertag that works FOR EVERY GAME.

Cross platform gaming with PC users.

Voice Chat between games, and while on the dashboard.

Video chat.

Achievements / Gamerscore

Anti-Cheating scanners for modified consoles

Reputation

Prefer / Avoid Player Option.

Friends List/ Messages no matter what your doing on the console, between games

cross platform with pc :lol: give me real controls in shadown run, not the major gamepad advantage. what about the fact, hl2 wont support, call of duty 4 wont and not many pc gamers want to play with wrecked k/m controls. They made shadow run better with a gamepad, just so x360 players could compete

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#147 DoctorBunny
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[QUOTE="kcm_117"][QUOTE="kenmid"]

better online

more people online

arcade games

download t.v. shows

messenger

Do I need to still keep going because i'm tired of typing?

imprezawrx500

cross-game invites

a unified Gamertag that works FOR EVERY GAME.

Cross platform gaming with PC users.

Voice Chat between games, and while on the dashboard.

Video chat.

Achievements / Gamerscore

Anti-Cheating scanners for modified consoles

Reputation

Prefer / Avoid Player Option.

Friends List/ Messages no matter what your doing on the console, between games

cross platform with pc :lol: give me real controls in shadown run, not the major gamepad advantage. what about the fact, hl2 wont support, call of duty 4 wont and not many pc gamers want to play with wrecked k/m controls. They made shadow run better with a gamepad, just so x360 players could compete

Gotta love excuses!!! Funny that on 360 I can destroy any and everyone. I'll hop on it on pc and destroy any and everyone still. I guess when pc only gamers talk all that trash and get destroyed they have to fall back on something? But then again I only have it for both systems as circuit city had a deal with halo 2/shadowrun for vista this week I believe it was? or last