How long do you give UWP before writing it off?

Don't know man. Visiting a friend tomorrow on weekend. Will play the game on his Xbox One.

ill give it a year and see but a few things certainly need to change.

1) games need to be moddable

2) UWP applications have to be sellable on different stores.

3) there can be no locking off of functions in the OS for games that are not UWP apps. UWP apps should also not be restricted (not able to disable v-sync for example is not acceptable).

4) UWP cannot get in the way of cross platform development.

these are the 4 main issues at the moment. if they get fixed then it could work.

I think most people will only use it for MS exclusive games. They will continue to use Steam, Origin, GOG, Uplay, etc. for everything else. So, this UWP really doesn't affect much. I am glad that MS is now releasing their Xbox titles on PC, but I am not going to buy them if they don't meet my standards. It is a shame that the UWP platform is currently holding their games back. I have a good PC and XB1 and I am currently not buying Quantum Break for either because it is not up to par. I will reconsider purchasing QB on PC once things like G-Sync are supported and if there is a good performance patch and price drop.

"PC master race" lol

On consoles you have all games under only ONE service not 4+

@aroxx_ab: That is 4+ different ways to get discounts and sales. Also, let's not forget the key sites which offer discounts all the time. I have not payed full price for a game in years. Even at launch.

Wow is that for real? MS are a bunch of idiots it seems :/

@R4gn4r0k said:

It's a really bad start and the question is: can they permit that ?

I'll give it about a year. If some games start appearing on the service that interest me like say Halo Wars 2 and Age of Empires IV, and they perform like utter crap, than I'll write it off.

Haha great signature!

It's pretty much already written off until they do something about it

When it gets fixed, and they finally get a decent install base, you just know that they're going to ruin it by charging a monthly fee to play UWP games online...

Already written off. I'm not losing anything of value in doing so. If MS fixes it, I'll jump on. However, Quantum Break being possibly the worst port in the last couple of generations means that no longer have the slightest interest in keeping up with Microsoft's PC efforts. In fact, I'd rather that MS just kept their games on XBox. They should go back to ignoring PC gamers, since they can't do it right anyway. I have more faith in Nintendo fixing third-party support and becoming top-dog again without casuals than I do in MS ever supporting PC gaming properly.

I bought Quantum Break, the first thing I have ever bought off the windows app store and the last. Never again will I give MS money for a game, unless it's released through Steam or another, proper, PC gaming store.

This poll is misleading. UWP and Store are two different things. Although UWP applications (as opposed to Win32 applications) are delivered through the store, UWP is actually a development platform (api etc) and application packaging system (sandbox). It resolves a lot of issues that were unavoidable with Win32 apps. And I would install a UWP app over a Win32 app because of these improvements, most importantly security. UWP is not comparable to GFWL. They are two completely different things.

GFWL - Games For Windows Live - is a gaming service similar to the xbox service, providing identity, achievements, chat, etc. This might be comparable to steam.

UWP - Universal Windows Platform - is an application architecture system or runtime that delivers on the key feature of providing shared code across application builds (desktop/tablet/phone/IoT/etc). It offers a modern application container that's sandboxed to prevent applications from corrupting your system. And for developers it modernizes the API's used to build applications (including games). This is comparable to Win32, the runtime that has ben used on Windows thus far. UWP was also called WinRT (not the arm-based operating system that was experimentally released onto tablets)

Now, as for the poll question .. How long do you give UWP before writing it off?

My answer, is that it cannot be written off, because it is here to stay, it is the foundation upon which more and more applications will be built. It is the future of Windows and it will supercede Win32 as the prefered runtime against which to develop application. Yes, they will come through the store primarily, but we will probably see other stores emerge that deliver UWP applications. UWP is not like steam, it's nothing like steam, it's a completely different technology. Also, it's not like GFWL, it's nothing like GFWL, again, it's completely different technology. The Store, is just that, a store. You can browse and purchase software. It's not built as a gaming service like steam. If you think that's what it's meant to be, then you're seeing animals in the clouds. That's not to say that the store won't evolve. But more likely XBox services will deliver a unified gaming service, not the store, OR Steam will adapt to UWP applications. If Steam wants to continue being relevent, they will need to work with Microsoft to coordinate Steam with UWP systems.