How long till 4K 3D TV's are affordable for the average person?

Right now, they're easily thousands of dollars.  When you do think the price will push down to $500-800?

My guess is that it won't be affordable for the average person until the end of the gen or near that time.

Probably 95% of us won't get to experience it this gen, so devs shouldn't worry too much about it.

3D can go die in a fire

3D can go die in a fire

lostrib

My eyes feel like they're on fire with 3D.

Years anyway, tc.  we'll see 2D games at 4K.

10 years

I'm pretty confident in saying we could see brand name 55" 4K TVs (currently ~$5500) around ~$1200 in 2 years (late 2015/early 2016); I still remember when LED TVs were coming in 2-3 years ago and were going for 3-4x the amount they do now. I don't think 4K TVs will go any lower in size since 4K on anything less than 55" (for TV viewing) is a complete waste IMO, even 55" is pushing it.

The 4k hdtv is not the problem it is the content and infrastructure also the space. I would rather have a 1080p oled hdtv than a 4k hdtv. As for 3d it sucked before but now I have a 240hz passive 3d vizio and I love it. I even got 3d xxx flicks and well I was sore for a week.

The 4k hdtv is not the problem it is the content and infrastructure also the space. I would rather have a 1080p oled hdtv than a 4k hdtv. As for 3d it sucked before but now I have a 240hz passive 3d vizio and I love it. I even got 3d xxx flicks and well I was sore for a week.

noscope-ak47

haha cool story bro

I'm pretty confident in saying we could see brand name 55" 4K TVs (currently ~$5500) around ~$1200 in 2 years (late 2015/early 2016); I still remember when LED TVs were coming in 2-3 years ago and were going for 3-4x the amount they do now. I don't think 4K TVs will go any lower in size since 4K on anything less than 55" (for TV viewing) is a complete waste IMO, even 55" is pushing it.

EXLINK

yeah, the biggest price drop will probably happen in the next 2 years.  to have something first, people always pay top dollar.  that and the company usually learns how to become more efficient with it.

technology grows fast.  blu-ray players were $1000 at first, and that partly pushed the PS3 up to it's high $600 price tag.  now the ps3 is $200 and blu-ray players are $100, so we'll see.

are you guys gonna use that 4k TV for PC gaming? Because otherwise there is no 4k content....

10-20 years.

2, maybe 3 years.

are you guys gonna use that 4k TV for PC gaming? Because otherwise there is no 4k content....

Gue1

movies

10-20 years.

Alpha_S_

10 years

slipknot0129

Probably 95% of us won't get to experience it this gen, so devs shouldn't worry too much about it.

drekula2

Devs aren't going to worry about it. Consoles won't run any games at 4K this gen, and as long as devs leave PC games with adjustable resolution, then the  customers  can worry about 4K.

Yeah, right now the price is the biggest hurdle. I mean $25K for a TV. It's too much for to even think about it.

5-10 years at least.

So yeah next gen.

Given the consumer ambivalence towards 3D sets thus far and amazingly tough sell manufacturers face getting the average consumer to see any need for a 4k set, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say - never.  

Unless 1080p screens are ditched altogether, (tough to see ANOTHER massive resolution shift industry-wide anytime in the near future), the only niche you're going to see 4k screens used are higher end large sets.  Why would manufacturers already working under the razor thin profit margins that make up the genreral TV marketplace spend extra for a screen that the average consumer isn't asking for, nor receives any benefit from?  They won't.  They'll save it for their premium offerings that sell far less but generate healthy profit margins.

15 years, smart tv are  still a high price

Technology evolves really fast so i would say about 4 - 5 years? HD tv's fashion started like on mid 2000's and now it's the most common standard in 1st world countries.

No point in owning one until the content comes. OT, they will be affordable in two years.

3D can go die in a fire

lostrib

10 years

Given the consumer ambivalence towards 3D sets thus far and amazingly tough sell manufacturers face getting the average consumer to see any need for a 4k set, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say - never.  

 

Unless 1080p screens are ditched altogether, (tough to see ANOTHER massive resolution shift industry-wide anytime in the near future), the only niche you're going to see 4k screens used are higher end large sets.  Why would manufacturers already working under the razor thin profit margins that make up the genreral TV marketplace spend extra for a screen that the average consumer isn't asking for, nor receives any benefit from?  They won't.  They'll save it for their premium offerings that sell far less but generate healthy profit margins.

santoron

2-3 years.

Just bought mine it will be here October 9th.  I spent 5k and it looks to be worth every penny.  Will I be playing native games in 4k?  No but they will still look outstanding its the movies that I got it for mainly.  And there will be lots of 4k content by next year.

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Given the consumer ambivalence towards 3D sets thus far and amazingly tough sell manufacturers face getting the average consumer to see any need for a 4k set, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say - never.  

 

Unless 1080p screens are ditched altogether, (tough to see ANOTHER massive resolution shift industry-wide anytime in the near future), the only niche you're going to see 4k screens used are higher end large sets.  Why would manufacturers already working under the razor thin profit margins that make up the genreral TV marketplace spend extra for a screen that the average consumer isn't asking for, nor receives any benefit from?  They won't.  They'll save it for their premium offerings that sell far less but generate healthy profit margins.

Cranler

Im tired of people saying its a waste.  I could see a noticeable diffrence from about 8 feet away on a 65 inch screen.  Is it as drastic as 1080p to SD?  No ofcourse not.  But it is noticeable.

To the average person? 15 years.getyeryayasout

10-20 years.

Alpha_S_

10 years

slipknot0129

6-7 years at the very leats (for the pice indicated)

Less for top priced models, i guess in 3-4 years you will be able to find 1500$ 4K TV (low quality though)

15 years, smart tv are  still a high price

wiiutroll

My local best buy just got one in. $4,999 but it looked great. Affordable depends on the person buying it.

Wrong. You guys are being absolutely ridiculous. 4K has technically been around for more than a decade (I think Sony started working on 4K projectors back in 2001) and for the first time launched in the consumer market in 2011-12 with the $25,000 VW1000ES 4K SXRD projector. Nowadays you can get 4K HDTVs from Sony, LG, Samsung for prices around $3500-4000 for 55" and $5000-6000 for 65". a top of the line 1080p LED or plasma at 65 inches will typically launch for $3000. The price, even today is not that different. Then there's Seiki TVs which cost $1100 or so and they are 50 inches big. An educated guess tells me that they'll be affordable in a couple of years. I'm thinking 2-3 years MAX. in 10-20 years time like some of you estimate we won't be talking about 4K anymore, we'll have moved on to 8K (8192x4320p = 35 megapixel resolution) NHK, Japan has been working with 8K displays for YEARS now and JVC and Panasonic have produced 8K displays (projector and $800,000 TV)Mozelleple112

I said 10 years or so because it usually takes about that long for these things to become mainstream - think back to how HDTVs and HD broadcasts where in the 90s it took about 10 years or so from them to become the norm.  The same will likely be said for 4k 3D TVs...the price will drop sooner of course but it's hard to justify spending extra on 3D TV's right now to the average consumer so my projection was 10 years untill that becomes commonplace... Again I'm talking in terms of average consumers - not upper middle class westerners and technophiles like on this forum who I'm sure will pick them up within a couple years like you said.  Again, see the precedent for HDTVs in general...

Of course by the time those become mainstream you'll also have have the higher resolutions occupying the expensive end of the market...that's just obvious.

Wrong. You guys are being absolutely ridiculous. 4K has technically been around for more than a decade (I think Sony started working on 4K projectors back in 2001) and for the first time launched in the consumer market in 2011-12 with the $25,000 VW1000ES 4K SXRD projector. Nowadays you can get 4K HDTVs from Sony, LG, Samsung for prices around $3500-4000 for 55" and $5000-6000 for 65". a top of the line 1080p LED or plasma at 65 inches will typically launch for $3000. The price, even today is not that different. Then there's Seiki TVs which cost $1100 or so and they are 50 inches big. An educated guess tells me that they'll be affordable in a couple of years. I'm thinking 2-3 years MAX. in 10-20 years time like some of you estimate we won't be talking about 4K anymore, we'll have moved on to 8K (8192x4320p = 35 megapixel resolution) NHK, Japan has been working with 8K displays for YEARS now and JVC and Panasonic have produced 8K displays (projector and $800,000 TV)Mozelleple112

All of this. Seriously, you guys who are saying 10+ years clearly have no idea how fast tech advances, and prices drop (you're probably console gamers :lol: ). There will be 4K displays in box stores across the country for less than $2000 within 2 years. Within 5 years, there will be budget models in the $500-$800 range, and the TV stock at most stores will be an almost even split between 4K and cheap 1080p TVs, 720p having been nonexistent for a couple years already. At that point, smaller (30 inch or less) 4K PC monitors will be even cheaper than the TVs, and will be increasingly common appointments in high end PC builds. And there will still be PS4/Xbone games running 900p.

Tiger Direct had an off brand 4K TV for a little over $1000 from what I was told. That was in store so I'm not sure about the website. Like I said that's what I was told but it could be misinformation. RimacBugatti

[QUOTE="RimacBugatti"]Tiger Direct had an off brand 4K TV for a little over $1000 from what I was told. That was in store so I'm not sure about the website. Like I said that's what I was told but it could be misinformation. Mozelleple112

So, the titanic/mona lisa/bible/MGS4/Patek Phillipe/GT-R of speakers, as seen in your sig... I'm trying to figure how big they are.. Not really anything of reference size in the picture. Unless, are those bookshelves along the walls? How big is that system? 

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Wrong. You guys are being absolutely ridiculous. 4K has technically been around for more than a decade (I think Sony started working on 4K projectors back in 2001) and for the first time launched in the consumer market in 2011-12 with the $25,000 VW1000ES 4K SXRD projector. Nowadays you can get 4K HDTVs from Sony, LG, Samsung for prices around $3500-4000 for 55" and $5000-6000 for 65". a top of the line 1080p LED or plasma at 65 inches will typically launch for $3000. The price, even today is not that different. Then there's Seiki TVs which cost $1100 or so and they are 50 inches big. An educated guess tells me that they'll be affordable in a couple of years. I'm thinking 2-3 years MAX. in 10-20 years time like some of you estimate we won't be talking about 4K anymore, we'll have moved on to 8K (8192x4320p = 35 megapixel resolution) NHK, Japan has been working with 8K displays for YEARS now and JVC and Panasonic have produced 8K displays (projector and $800,000 TV)the_bi99man

All of this. Seriously, you guys who are saying 10+ years clearly have no idea how fast tech advances, and prices drop (you're probably console gamers :lol: ). There will be 4K displays in box stores across the country for less than $2000 within 2 years. Within 5 years, there will be budget models in the $500-$800 range, and the TV stock at most stores will be an almost even split between 4K and cheap 1080p TVs, 720p having been nonexistent for a couple years already. At that point, smaller (30 inch or less) 4K PC monitors will be even cheaper than the TVs, and will be increasingly common appointments in high end PC builds. And there will still be PS4/Xbone games running 900p.

Once again we're talking about average consumers here...it's all very well and good for you to talk about enthusiasts like yourself buying high end gaming PCs who will adopt this in 2-3 years but like it or not those console generation timeframes are more indicative of average consumers.  Most people aren't on the "cutting edge" nor do they see much reason to be.

I don't know if the average person gets off the tractor long enough to justify a UHD 3D TV. 

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Wrong. You guys are being absolutely ridiculous. 4K has technically been around for more than a decade (I think Sony started working on 4K projectors back in 2001) and for the first time launched in the consumer market in 2011-12 with the $25,000 VW1000ES 4K SXRD projector. Nowadays you can get 4K HDTVs from Sony, LG, Samsung for prices around $3500-4000 for 55" and $5000-6000 for 65". a top of the line 1080p LED or plasma at 65 inches will typically launch for $3000. The price, even today is not that different. Then there's Seiki TVs which cost $1100 or so and they are 50 inches big. An educated guess tells me that they'll be affordable in a couple of years. I'm thinking 2-3 years MAX. in 10-20 years time like some of you estimate we won't be talking about 4K anymore, we'll have moved on to 8K (8192x4320p = 35 megapixel resolution) NHK, Japan has been working with 8K displays for YEARS now and JVC and Panasonic have produced 8K displays (projector and $800,000 TV)Alpha_S_

All of this. Seriously, you guys who are saying 10+ years clearly have no idea how fast tech advances, and prices drop (you're probably console gamers :lol: ). There will be 4K displays in box stores across the country for less than $2000 within 2 years. Within 5 years, there will be budget models in the $500-$800 range, and the TV stock at most stores will be an almost even split between 4K and cheap 1080p TVs, 720p having been nonexistent for a couple years already. At that point, smaller (30 inch or less) 4K PC monitors will be even cheaper than the TVs, and will be increasingly common appointments in high end PC builds. And there will still be PS4/Xbone games running 900p.

Once again we're talking about average consumers here...it's all very well and good for you to talk about enthusiasts like yourself buying high end gaming PCs who will adopt this in 2-3 years but like it or not those console generation timeframes are more indicative of average consumers.  Most people aren't on the "cutting edge" nor do they see much reason to be.

Unless you still consider 1080p to be "cutting edge" today, then 4K won't be "cutting edge" in 5 years. 4K will just be the higher end of two standards, like 1080p is today, and 8K will be the new thing on the horizon, which people will be saying is going to take another 15 years to catch on.

I don't know if the average person gets off the tractor long enough to justify a UHD 3D TV. 

psymon100

Where are you? Alabama?

Unless you still consider 1080p to be "cutting edge" today, then 4K won't be "cutting edge" in 5 years. 4K will just be the higher end of two standards, like 1080p is today, and 8K will be the new thing on the horizon, which people will be saying is going to take another 15 years to catch on.

the_bi99man

I already said that's obvious that there'll be higher resolutions occupying the upper end of the market by the time 4k becomes standard...

It did take 1080p and HDTVs awhile to become mainstream...again think back to when HDTVs first really started entering the market in the 90s, and 1080p is certainly not cutting edge but it took awhile for it to become standard.  But on the 3D TV front, do you really think that'll be commonplace of the average consumer in only a few years?  A lot of people don't see the point in the extra expense on it and it's been slow for people to pick up.  Again, we've seen this before with HDTV which was got off to a slow start.