How many former Xbox fans are abandoning MS because...

Even if Sony gave me a PS4 for free. I still wouldn't use it.  Would sell it to get an X1.

jimmypsn

@goatcheese

You can build a gaming PC that will far out perform the PS4 and One for $750.00 providing you don't need to buy a monitor or can use your HDTV as your monitor.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

I'm no MS fan, never was. Went from Dreamcast to PS2 in 2006, right when 360 launched but I will say this..

It's funny how the XBOX came out and was powerful

Xbox360 even had better RAM and GPU than PS3

But X1 is weaker in every dimension and it's greatest asset is a camera

 

Complete change of philosophy

NathanDrakeSwag

People sticking with Xbox next gen are following a brand name now. Xbone is a complete 180 from what the Xbox and 360 were.

I'm moving to PC. In the long run it will work out cheaper and more gamezzz.dobzilian

I wouldn't call myself an Xbox fan...I just preferred the 360 this gen.  Just like how I believed the PS2 trumped the original xbox the year before that.  Basically, I have no ties to any company. Never will.

With that said, I'm continuing my streak of switching up and going with Sony this time around.

The price and forced kinect is meh to me. They simply do not have the developers to make quality exclusives for a whole generation and I do not think they are willing to buy enough of them off to make exclusive games for the xbone.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I am sticking with last gen. I don't see any reason to upgrade. Last gen had HD gaming and Bluray. What does this gen have? Some cloud bollocks...Spartan070

If you're not willing to shell out the extra $100 for the kinect, that's fine. I, for one, see this as nothing but a good thing for the system. Sell millions of kinects, and let the developers take less of a risk incooperating the device into their games.

Again. I will leave this here.

I definitetly am, I can't believe Microsoft wants me to buy their underpowered console when Sony offers better for less money.FoxbatAIpha

I'm doing 180 and buying the Xbox One first. One day maybe when The Order:1886 comes out I'll get the PS4.

Because of Kinect being a requirement for X1 and because MS have chosen lower specs to compensate for Kinect?

MS' former consoles used to have pretty "cutting-edge" tech for consoles in the past, but with X1 this seems to be changing thanks to Kinect.

I think the higher price wouldn't be the issue if it also had the higher-spec hardware to accomodate the price.

Several "hardcore" gamers would prefer a more powerful system, even if it ment a higher price tag.

The original Kinect already made a divide in the Xbox fan-base, with some greeting it and some hating it.

I suppose the bigger "haters" will just switch to PS4 and/or PC, instead of further support MS.

 

What about you?

Are you among those who liked MS' consoles before but are now abandoning them thanks to Kinect and lower specs?

 

Discuss. ;)

nameless12345

I'll be getting both the PS4 and XBone.  Just because the XBone is less powerful doesn't mean that there won't be great games for it.  Take PS2 compared to Xbox, PS2 was garbage specs wise compared to the Xbox, we all know how that gen turned out.

I'm loyal to games not brands...

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Because of Kinect being a requirement for X1 and because MS have chosen lower specs to compensate for Kinect?

MS' former consoles used to have pretty "cutting-edge" tech for consoles in the past, but with X1 this seems to be changing thanks to Kinect.

I think the higher price wouldn't be the issue if it also had the higher-spec hardware to accomodate the price.

Several "hardcore" gamers would prefer a more powerful system, even if it ment a higher price tag.

The original Kinect already made a divide in the Xbox fan-base, with some greeting it and some hating it.

I suppose the bigger "haters" will just switch to PS4 and/or PC, instead of further support MS.

 

What about you?

Are you among those who liked MS' consoles before but are now abandoning them thanks to Kinect and lower specs?

 

Discuss. ;)

BIGtex42

Yes and no.

You are right that, in the greater scheme of things, better specs don't decide the sales' winner by themselves, still, comparing system's specs is kinda the essence of SW, or atleast that's what I was led to believe...

For example the first Xbox had superior specs to the PS2 and altho the PS2 beat it in sales by a wide margin, the Xbox was still praised by the fans for it's superior capabilities (which ment best console multi-plats and prettiest exclusives), hard drive, organized online, ect.

So I don't agree that it's not what sells consoles, albeit to lesser extent. (more important things are marketing, pricing and developer support)

Also, the thread is not about what sells consoles but if some people have the sentiment that MS somehow "betrayed" them...

Take PS2 compared to Xbox, PS2 was garbage specs wise compared to the Xbox, we all know how that gen turned out.

littlestreakier

Yes, PS2 sold far better.

That doesn't mean people who prefered the Xbox didn't exist tho. ;)

Because of Kinect being a requirement for X1 and because MS have chosen lower specs to compensate for Kinect?

MS' former consoles used to have pretty "cutting-edge" tech for consoles in the past, but with X1 this seems to be changing thanks to Kinect.

I think the higher price wouldn't be the issue if it also had the higher-spec hardware to accomodate the price.

Several "hardcore" gamers would prefer a more powerful system, even if it ment a higher price tag.

The original Kinect already made a divide in the Xbox fan-base, with some greeting it and some hating it.

I suppose the bigger "haters" will just switch to PS4 and/or PC, instead of further support MS.

 

What about you?

Are you among those who liked MS' consoles before but are now abandoning them thanks to Kinect and lower specs?

 

Discuss. ;)

nameless12345

@goatcheese

You can build a gaming PC that will far out perform the PS4 and One for $750.00 providing you don't need to buy a monitor or can use your HDTV as your monitor.

biggles2120

I own both a 360 and PS3, next gen I will be getting the only next gen console the X1.

Yes, PS2 sold far better.

That doesn't mean people who prefered the Xbox didn't exist tho. ;)

nameless12345

I switched back then from PS2 to original Xbox. Well not switched because I didn't throw PS2 away however xbox got a lot more usage and it was only because of Halo 2 on lan. Didn't really care which was more powerful, hell I didn't even know back then what hardware these systems packed in. 

The reason was a game that I wanted to play and what that console could do that other consoles couldn't, efortless LAN gaming. Installing all the games on HDD and never needing discs anymore was another reason too. It was functionality and one game not power. 

That said then was then and now is now. Will One have that killer game again and will it dwarf PS4 functionality wise? 

my brother and some of my friends are going from xbox360 to ps4,

I dunno why they didn't adjust the price, sell it at a loss, and match/beat the PS4's specs whilst adding Kinect, equally value for money. 

I think the price will hurt them until they drop it.

However I don't plan on buying either for a couple years or more.

Doesn't bother me at all. It can digitally recreate myself in games with a create-a-character and I can turn the system on while I'm taking off my work clothes. If that's all the use I ever get out of it that's ok with me.

 

Spartan070

Again. I will leave this here.

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

I'm no MS fan, never was. Went from Dreamcast to PS2 in 2006, right when 360 launched but I will say this..

It's funny how the XBOX came out and was powerful

Xbox360 even had better RAM and GPU than PS3

But X1 is weaker in every dimension and it's greatest asset is a camera

Complete change of philosophy

People sticking with Xbox next gen are following a brand name now. Xbone is a complete 180 from what the Xbox and 360 were.

I'll be getting both the PS4 and XBone.  Just because the XBone is less powerful doesn't mean that there won't be great games for it.  Take PS2 compared to Xbox, PS2 was garbage specs wise compared to the Xbox, we all know how that gen turned out.

I'm loyal to games not brands...

littlestreakier

Again. I will leave this here.

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="littlestreakier"]

I'll be getting both the PS4 and XBone.  Just because the XBone is less powerful doesn't mean that there won't be great games for it.  Take PS2 compared to Xbox, PS2 was garbage specs wise compared to the Xbox, we all know how that gen turned out.

I'm loyal to games not brands...

stayhigh1

:|

How many cows are spreading FUD to try and get people to buy a PS4 over an XB1?

At the beginning of this last gen I leaned more towards the 360, after a few years i started favoring the PS3 because of the Live fees and my unfortunate run with RRoD. Now this upcoming gen, I am leaning more towards the One again because it just looks like it has the better lineup. I am getting both at launch, but I am more hyped for the One than the PS4. There are 5 exclusives I want on the One at launch (Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Ryse, Crimson Dragon, and Killer instinct) while I only want one exclusive game on the PS4 at launch (Killzone SF). Now I am super hyped for Infamous SS, which is looking phenomenal and a great addition to one of the best series and most underrated series of this last gen.

[QUOTE="littlestreakier"]

I'll be getting both the PS4 and XBone.  Just because the XBone is less powerful doesn't mean that there won't be great games for it.  Take PS2 compared to Xbox, PS2 was garbage specs wise compared to the Xbox, we all know how that gen turned out.

I'm loyal to games not brands...

stayhigh1

Personal experience, my friends that play UFC and get Madden every single year are wanting a X1. My friends that play anything else are getting a PS4.

People that have a problem with a component that can be turned off at anytime need to have their head checked.

I dumped my 360 for a PS3 when MS put up that ridiculous paywall called XBLG.  It's absurd that you have to pay for that just to use things like Netflix or Amazon Prime when you're already paying for those services.

I dumped my 360 for a PS3 when MS put up that ridiculous paywall called XBLG.  It's absurd that you have to pay for that just to use things like Netflix or Amazon Prime when you're already paying for those services.

david61983

Not at all...once people have a family and see how much fun they have with Kinect....it's a no brainer..

masiisam

Unfortunately people on this board, who are a small cross section of the overall consumer base for home video game consoles, think that they are the primary consumer focus group. People are going to be buying these consoles for all different reasons, and the large majority of them won't give a crap about theoretical power differences.

You are right, if you have a family and have played Kinect with them, you would see its value and why a lot of people are so excited about Kinect 2.

I don't know, at one point I was 99% sure I was gonna ditch Xbox One for PS4 ... although I didn't really want to. Felt like I was being forced into it. Since then they've reversed most of the bad policies and although they haven't done anything major with the hardware they have made some small tweaks that make it sound a little better. So now I'm leaning a little towards PS4 but have another foot in the undecided column as well. If they improve the GPU in a significant way (They won't :( ) I'll pick Xbox One for sure.

Who knows, maybe I'll even end up getting both of them. If so it would be the first time I've done that since Genesis and SNES. But that can only happen if Xbox One's graphics processing stays as it is said to be now. If they were to close that gap I wouldn't bother with PS4 at all.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Yes, PS2 sold far better.

That doesn't mean people who prefered the Xbox didn't exist tho. ;)

edidili

I switched back then from PS2 to original Xbox. Well not switched because I didn't throw PS2 away however xbox got a lot more usage and it was only because of Halo 2 on lan. Didn't really care which was more powerful, hell I didn't even know back then what hardware these systems packed in. 

The reason was a game that I wanted to play and what that console could do that other consoles couldn't, efortless LAN gaming. Installing all the games on HDD and never needing discs anymore was another reason too. It was functionality and one game not power. 

That said then was then and now is now. Will One have that killer game again and will it dwarf PS4 functionality wise? 

Xbox was the "go-to" console (considering you didn't have a gaming PC) if you were a FP shooter and WRPG fan and a fan of Tecmo's and Sega's games and liked online gaming, hard drive storage and superior multi-plats and visuals and it was moddable, even.

While PS2 had the larger library of games, not everyone prefered it's games or it's capabilities.

At the beginning of this last gen I leaned more towards the 360, after a few years i started favoring the PS3 because of the Live fees and my unfortunate run with RRoD. Now this upcoming gen, I am leaning more towards the One again because it just looks like it has the better lineup. I am getting both at launch, but I am more hyped for the One than the PS4. There are 5 exclusives I want on the One at launch (Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Ryse, Crimson Dragon, and Killer instinct) while I only want one exclusive game on the PS4 at launch (Killzone SF). Now I am super hyped for Infamous SS, which is looking phenomenal and a great addition to one of the best series and most underrated series of this last gen.

rockydog1111

I think people are gonna be disappointed with KI. The game was OK but nostalgia is causing people to remember it as being better than what it was.

I dumped my 360 for a PS3 when MS put up that ridiculous paywall called XBLG.  It's absurd that you have to pay for that just to use things like Netflix or Amazon Prime when you're already paying for those services.

david61983