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When the f*ck did Tom McShea review Killzone 3?BlabadonIce cream? When the fu7k did we get ice cream?
Seriously, this guy will give a low score to his wife, assuming she's hot to the rest of us.
Off the top I can think of The Last of Us, Skyward Sword, and Animal Crossing: New Leaf, are there others that you know of?
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lowkey254
You forgot inFamous 2.
But yeah, McSh!t just gives lower than expected scores to stir sh!t up. If it was only one example, then yeah, I would accept the "its only his opinion" bs, but when so many critically acclaimed games are floped by him for the stupidest of reasons it gets obvious hes just that kind of idiot that likes to swim against the tide just because
GS should fire him already but I know they'll never will
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Seriously, this guy will give a low score to his wife, assuming she's hot to the rest of us.
Off the top I can think of The Last of Us, Skyward Sword, and Animal Crossing: New Leaf, are there others that you know of?
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Note* I had Killzone on the mind and mis-typed
Vatusus
You forgot inFamous 2.
But yeah, McSh!t just gives lower than expected scores to stir sh!t up. If it was only one example, then yeah, I would accept the "its only his opinion" bs, but when so many critically acclaimed games are floped by him for the stupidest of reasons it gets obvious hes just that kind of idiot that likes to swim against the tide just because
GS should fire him already but I know they'll never will
he's never alone in his review scores.
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Seriously, this guy will give a low score to his wife, assuming she's hot to the rest of us.
Rocker6
What exactly is a low score?
usually less than a point away from the average even though increments of .5 are used. :?
It's just one guys opinion, which all reviews are, who cares. Heil68Pretty much this... I mean at the end of the day you can't get your panties in a bunch over a singular review. At 85% through the game I can say personally the game is closer to the meta score than the mcshea score, but I couldnt care less about either. I will admit that low scores make SW buzz with fun however.
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Seriously, this guy will give a low score to his wife, assuming she's hot to the rest of us.
CaseyWegner
What exactly is a low score?
usually less than a point away from the average even though increments of .5 are used. :?
Yeah... honestly, why even have reviews these days when the whole Internet can't understand the point of a review, and chases any difference in opinion with a pitcfork, while the baseline is a flawed aggregate full of inconsistencies?
Everyone seems to complain about Tom but how about Carolyn and his/her need to factor in personal political/social views into EVERYTHING. Shouldn't their be a boundary between personal and professional point of views?Double_WideThat's the problem, they both tend to take a personal stance against something and knock a perfectly good/great game down. Tom didn't like the main character, Joel, in TLOU because he wasn't a nice guy... wth?
[QUOTE="Double_Wide"]Everyone seems to complain about Tom but how about Carolyn and his/her need to factor in personal political/social views into EVERYTHING. Shouldn't their be a boundary between personal and professional point of views?lowkey254That's the problem, they both tend to take a personal stance against something and knock a perfectly good/great game down. Tom didn't like the main character, Joel, in TLOU because he wasn't a nice guy... wth? I think its quite obvious that Tom places himself in the characters of his reviews and probably weighs that into his overall score... People who review can only do so from their own brain so I dont fault anyone for taking this approach. I just personally think the game is way to good comparatively speaking to warrant an 8/10 but lets not be silly... 8 on gamespot means great not shitty.
He gave SMG2 a 10 and that's all that matters. :P
Seriously I respect his opinion on SS even though I disagree with it. Fanboys take reviews way too seriously.
Seabas989
My problem isn't so much with the reviews as it is the reviewer. When you're name is synonymous with troll and flop, there's a problem.
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He gave SMG2 a 10 and that's all that matters. :P
Seriously I respect his opinion on SS even though I disagree with it. Fanboys take reviews way too seriously.
lowkey254
My problem isn't so much with the reviews as it is the reviewer. When you're name is synonymous with troll and flop, there's a problem.
What problem do you see other than someone else having a different opinion than everyone else?It is one persons opinion.. I think The Last Of Us deserves 9/10 but at the same time I can understand his issues (other than the characters not being likable or enjoyable). A 8/10 is not a bad score at all and was NOT the worst score for The Last of Us.
People need to remember that reviews are just one persons opinion, EVERYONE will ahve there own opinions about games.
I mean seriously? Who cares about scores! I thought Lost Odyssye, Alpha Protocol and The last of Us all were better games than the GS score, but in the end who cares about a point or two lower than what you want? Its just one reviewer and one game!
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He gave SMG2 a 10 and that's all that matters. :P
Seriously I respect his opinion on SS even though I disagree with it. Fanboys take reviews way too seriously.
My problem isn't so much with the reviews as it is the reviewer. When you're name is synonymous with troll and flop, there's a problem.
What problem do you see other than someone else having a different opinion than everyone else? If it were just my, non professional, opinion I could deal with that, it wouldn't be a problem. When you have 50+ other professionals who disagree, or see more than Tom, then Tom is doing it for the lulzIt is one persons opinion.. I think The Last Of Us deserves 9/10 but at the same time I can understand his issues (other than the characters not being likable or enjoyable). A 8/10 is not a bad score at all and was NOT the worst score for The Last of Us.
People need to remember that reviews are just one persons opinion, EVERYONE will ahve there own opinions about games.
You're missing my point, which is that Tom is constantly lowering the score of exclusives when other professionals would do otherwise. This isn't about TLOU, this is about Tom.[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]You're missing my point, which is that Tom is constantly lowering the score of exclusives when other professionals would do otherwise. This isn't about TLOU, this is about Tom.It is one persons opinion.. I think The Last Of Us deserves 9/10 but at the same time I can understand his issues (other than the characters not being likable or enjoyable). A 8/10 is not a bad score at all and was NOT the worst score for The Last of Us.
People need to remember that reviews are just one persons opinion, EVERYONE will ahve there own opinions about games.
lowkey254
And you are missing my point..... EVERYONE HAS THERE OWN OPINION! Stop making such a huge deal about it.
So what if he gave a few low scores? He also gave some very high scores (Mario Galaxy 2).
It is not some conspiracy theory, the dude just didnt love the same games you do, get over it.
I dont cry when my fav games get low scores from Kevin, who the F cares. Yes this is about TOM, and his personal opinion. You understand what that is? Who says he should copy what others give certain games? What would be the point of reviews then?
Cows sure are beating this Tom/TLOU thing into the ground.
[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]You're missing my point, which is that Tom is constantly lowering the score of exclusives when other professionals would do otherwise. This isn't about TLOU, this is about Tom.It is one persons opinion.. I think The Last Of Us deserves 9/10 but at the same time I can understand his issues (other than the characters not being likable or enjoyable). A 8/10 is not a bad score at all and was NOT the worst score for The Last of Us.
People need to remember that reviews are just one persons opinion, EVERYONE will ahve there own opinions about games.
lowkey254
infamous
halo 3: odst
gunstringer
mario galaxy 2
all exclusive. all higher than the mc average.
Seriously, this guy will give a low score to his wife, assuming she's hot to the rest of us.
Off the top I can think of The Last of Us, Skyward Sword, and Animal Crossing: New Leaf, are there others that you know of?
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Note* I had Killzone on the mind and mis-typed
lowkey254
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Don't mind him when ever gamespot need hits a great game is given to him for review.
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infamous
halo 3: odst
gunstringer
mario galaxy 2all exclusive. all higher than the mc average.
CaseyWegner
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He is a soulless troll that downplay games based on how sympathetic a characters is..:lol:
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TLOU is the biggest dirty spot on his record,is not about his opinion is about been consistent and not been stupid,you don't rate games based on your bias ass opinion,you rate them on standard guide lines that basically i have to admit has been loss.
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Innovation,fun factor,replayability and several other.
Rather on this character been of your liking or not,which is why reviewers this days are a joke,look at E3 Titanfall won best Original game,WTF does that game does that hasn't been done to hell and beyond on this industry,because even been a pay exclusive has been done before.
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]His TLOU review was spot on.razu2444Keep saying that to yourself. You know it's true. Just finished it. 8.0, like McShea said.
[QUOTE="lowkey254"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]
It is one persons opinion.. I think The Last Of Us deserves 9/10 but at the same time I can understand his issues (other than the characters not being likable or enjoyable). A 8/10 is not a bad score at all and was NOT the worst score for The Last of Us.
People need to remember that reviews are just one persons opinion, EVERYONE will ahve there own opinions about games.
You're missing my point, which is that Tom is constantly lowering the score of exclusives when other professionals would do otherwise. This isn't about TLOU, this is about Tom.And you are missing my point..... EVERYONE HAS THERE OWN OPINION! Stop making such a huge deal about it.
So what if he gave a few low scores? He also gave some very high scores (Mario Galaxy 2).
It is not some conspiracy theory, the dude just didnt love the same games you do, get over it.
I dont cry when my fav games get low scores from Kevin, who the F cares. Yes this is about TOM, and his personal opinion. You understand what that is? Who says he should copy what others give certain games? What would be the point of reviews then?
Cows sure are beating this Tom/TLOU thing into the ground.
Who's crying? You're the one complaining of someone's opinion on someone else's opinion... Point missed.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
infamous
halo 3: odst
gunstringer
mario galaxy 2all exclusive. all higher than the mc average.
tormentos
He is a soulless troll that downplay games based on how sympathetic a characters is..:lol:
TLOU is the biggest dirty spot on his record,is not about his opinion is about been consistent and not been stupid,you don't rate games based on your bias ass opinion,you rate them on standard guide lines that basically i have to admit has been loss.
Innovation,fun factor,replayability and several other.
Rather on this character been of your liking or not,which is why reviewers this days are a joke,look at E3 Titanfall won best Original game,WTF does that game does that hasn't been done to hell and beyond on this industry,because even been a pay exclusive has been done before.
1000 thanks to you for understanding what I'm talking about... I feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of ADD kids who can't focus on the topic (Consistency) or get too caught up with one thing (TLOU).[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]You're missing my point, which is that Tom is constantly lowering the score of exclusives when other professionals would do otherwise. This isn't about TLOU, this is about Tom.It is one persons opinion.. I think The Last Of Us deserves 9/10 but at the same time I can understand his issues (other than the characters not being likable or enjoyable). A 8/10 is not a bad score at all and was NOT the worst score for The Last of Us.
People need to remember that reviews are just one persons opinion, EVERYONE will ahve there own opinions about games.
lowkey254
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To be honest i think exclusives are often too highly rated. I feel like fanboy expectations taint the review process, as the reviewer knows a high score will get him alot of praise and a low score will get him a huge backlash. I have a feeling most exclusive games would be given lower scores if they were multiplats.
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In the same way fanboys tend to overrate exclusives, i think reviewers do to.
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EDIT: just as a caveat i should say im not familiar with tom McShea's reviews and i havent played TLOU yet, so im not making a comment in regards to this specific scenario, just general game reviewing practices.
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infamous
halo 3: odst
gunstringer
mario galaxy 2all exclusive. all higher than the mc average.
tormentos
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He is a soulless troll that downplay games based on how sympathetic a characters is..:lol:
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TLOU is the biggest dirty spot on his record,is not about his opinion is about been consistent and not been stupid,you don't rate games based on your bias ass opinion,you rate them on standard guide lines that basically i have to admit has been loss.
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Innovation,fun factor,replayability and several other.
Rather on this character been of your liking or not,which is why reviewers this days are a joke,look at E3 Titanfall won best Original game,WTF does that game does that hasn't been done to hell and beyond on this industry,because even been a pay exclusive has been done before.
although i think it should have scored higher, i can kind of see where he's coming from. if you don't like the character you're playing, it can affect your enjoyment of the game.
:lol: Oh man lol, that killed me :lol:Seriously, this guy will give a low score to his wife
lowkey254
[QUOTE="razu2444"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]His TLOU review was spot on.freedomfreakKeep saying that to yourself. You know it's true. Just finished it. 8.0, like McShea said.
You played it wrong.
You know it's true. Just finished it. 8.0, like McShea said.[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="razu2444"] Keep saying that to yourself.PhazonBlazer
You played it wrong.
No. The AI played it wrong.[QUOTE="Ackad"]Lemmings were nearly extinct before TLOU. He had to flop TLOU in order to let them have a fresh start.SwagSurfPretty much this. Tom Mcshea is also active in SW. makes sense
[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You know it's true. Just finished it. 8.0, like McShea said.freedomfreak
You played it wrong.
No. The AI played it wrong.You crazy.
Hell if I know, but I think he really sucks.
especially after watching the spoilercast they did, how anyone can be so clueless is really amazing.
I might not agree with his reviews but at least we know he's probably not getting paid on the side.
Only a matter of time before they fire him, I guess.
The faults that Tom Mc Shea points out are almost laughable. Supporting characters rarely being sympathetic is one of them. The game is portrayed as a dog eat dog world, it is post apocalypta after all. It almost seems like he is struggling to justify his rating by throwing in nonexistent issues. If he wanted an answer to this issue he would only have to read the first few lines of his review, "everyone must steal, must kill, must do whatever it takes to survive." Yes! well done Tom, although you must have expected selfless characters when humanity has reached an all time low, maybe we should have called it The Last Of Altruism instead.
The game doesn't have to be groundbreaking or perfect to merit a score higher than 8.0. I haven't came across a single reason that stands as to why this game deserves 8.0. Rather, a bunch of pretentious morons who would rather exclaim that I don't understand what constitutes a good game.
I have one simple test, take a look at gamespots top ratings for this generation and look at the scores higher than 8.0. I struggle to see many that are better, yet there's a profound amount.
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