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#1 Teh_gamer05
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We've seen a steady increase in the price of consoles, from the cheap playstation to the not so cheap ps3. How much will the next gen consoles cost? 6,7,800? How long will it be untill console prices start hitting the 1,000 mark. discuss.
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If they start hitting the $1000 mark, their will really be no point in getting a console over a gaming PC besides sheer preference, hence the console market won't drive itself that high.
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#3 Not-A-Stalker
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They'll stay in the $300 area.
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#4 zsc4
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It may also depend on inflation, for this sake saying that there will be no inflation until the next gen consoles. I would predict $500-600.
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#5 desktopdefender
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if they get to the $1,000 mark, im just gunna be a Hermit, instead of a Lemming/Hermit
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I really hope it doesn't go any higher than 400... That should really be the ceiling...
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#7 Cadis
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I don't have that problem my console has always stayed around $250 ..

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#8 bad82man82
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I think it will be about $400 to $500 because everything the consumer needs for entertainment is built-in now so I don't think that much tech will be for the next 5 years.

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#9 horrowhip
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If it hits the $1000 mark, console gaming will die and everyone will switch to PC Gaming, because then the cost factor wouldn't matter... an the PC is more useful than consoles so it would be the natural choice. And if you prefer controllers over M+KB, you could always plug in a controller...
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Hard to tell. Hopefully they will all learn that consoles should not cost over $300 and should only be good at one thing... gaming.

Sadly though, it seems as if the gaming console might be dieing. Next-gen, they will most likely all be gimped PC's that don't have any of the freedom or customizability of true PC's, that is, if the evolutionary trend continues.
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#14 Sherpico
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Ps4...About $1100 Canadian

Big N...$500

$ofty...$600 ish.

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#15 winner-ps3
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400, ps3 was expensive bc its ahead of the technolgy curve

ps4 will probably 500 max (they learned from this rough start)

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#16 subrosian
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And the best selling console this generation is $250, while the PS3 has been bottlenecked by its high price. It's not hard to see that the cost of consoles will *fall* next generation, as Sony and Microsoft seek bigger sales numbers and higher mass appeal. I'd say the $250 to $350 price range is a pretty safe bet for generation eight consoles. Remeber too, many of the technical leaps being taken for the "HD consoles" in the 7th generation will be much less expensive in the future.
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Its kinda early to talk about next gen console prices ain't it ?

But one thing that will be interesting to see is how MS and Sony will price there consoles in the next gen.

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If they start hitting the $1000 mark, their will really be no point in getting a console over a gaming PC besides sheer preference, hence the console market won't drive itself that high.Danm_999
thats the thing everthing get more expensive including gaming PC before you get a high end gaming PC for 500 or less now it's atleast 1000+
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#19 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]If they start hitting the $1000 mark, their will really be no point in getting a console over a gaming PC besides sheer preference, hence the console market won't drive itself that high.Ragashahs
thats the thing everthing get more expensive including gaming PC before you get a high end gaming PC for 500 or less now it's atleast 1000+



What on earth are you talking about? A "high-end" gaming PC has *never* been below $500 - and the pricing of computer parts has fallen over the years, not risen. Given you can build a machine that will run Crysis on high-settings for about $650 ~ $750 (including OS), it's hard to support the ridiculous claims being made about PC pricing.
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PS2 = $300, PS3 = $600, PS4 =$1200? Probably not. I think Sony learnt their lesson this gen.
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Over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDD!

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#22 soulsofblayck
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If it's something actually innovative (not waggle stick garbage), with amazing visuals/physics/blah then I wouldn't mind spending 500.
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]If they start hitting the $1000 mark, their will really be no point in getting a console over a gaming PC besides sheer preference, hence the console market won't drive itself that high.subrosian
thats the thing everthing get more expensive including gaming PC before you get a high end gaming PC for 500 or less now it's atleast 1000+



What on earth are you talking about? A "high-end" gaming PC has *never* been below $500 - and the pricing of computer parts has fallen over the years, not risen. Given you can build a machine that will run Crysis on high-settings for about $650 ~ $750 (including OS), it's hard to support the ridiculous claims being made about PC pricing.

first meant to put a 7 not a 5 there and if you want all the things neccsary to only run games yeah a PC like that will only cost that much but everyones PC is just ment to play games they use it for a bunch of crap and all that extra stuff pushes the price alittle higher.
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#24 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]If they start hitting the $1000 mark, their will really be no point in getting a console over a gaming PC besides sheer preference, hence the console market won't drive itself that high.Ragashahs
thats the thing everthing get more expensive including gaming PC before you get a high end gaming PC for 500 or less now it's atleast 1000+



What on earth are you talking about? A "high-end" gaming PC has *never* been below $500 - and the pricing of computer parts has fallen over the years, not risen. Given you can build a machine that will run Crysis on high-settings for about $650 ~ $750 (including OS), it's hard to support the ridiculous claims being made about PC pricing.

first meant to put a 7 not a 5 there and if you want all the things neccsary to only run games yeah a PC like that will only cost that much but everyones PC is just ment to play games they use it for a bunch of crap and all that extra stuff pushes the price alittle higher.



I was not aware a dual-core system with 2gb of ddr2-800 and GeForce 8 series GPU would need "anything else" to perform day-to-day tasks. Gaming requires a far more powerful system than anything else besides serious engineering / digital media work - and a gaming machine would be more suited to that than a "cheapy PC" anyway.

The cost of parts has fallen steadily, if you're claiming PCs of any kind are becomming more expensive, you've missed the memo.
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#25 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]If they start hitting the $1000 mark, their will really be no point in getting a console over a gaming PC besides sheer preference, hence the console market won't drive itself that high.subrosian
thats the thing everthing get more expensive including gaming PC before you get a high end gaming PC for 500 or less now it's atleast 1000+



What on earth are you talking about? A "high-end" gaming PC has *never* been below $500 - and the pricing of computer parts has fallen over the years, not risen. Given you can build a machine that will run Crysis on high-settings for about $650 ~ $750 (including OS), it's hard to support the ridiculous claims being made about PC pricing.

first meant to put a 7 not a 5 there and if you want all the things neccsary to only run games yeah a PC like that will only cost that much but everyones PC is just ment to play games they use it for a bunch of crap and all that extra stuff pushes the price alittle higher.



I was not aware a dual-core system with 2gb of ddr2-800 and GeForce 8 series GPU would need "anything else" to perform day-to-day tasks. Gaming requires a far more powerful system than anything else besides serious engineering / digital media work - and a gaming machine would be more suited to that than a "cheapy PC" anyway.

The cost of parts has fallen steadily, if you're claiming PCs of any kind are becomming more expensive, you've missed the memo.

not that all i'm saying advaced technology, like and all gaming thing, cost more money and considering the dollar is always getting weaker price will still continue to rise. however higher price doesn't mean expensive just higher price. as technology advances and the dollar get weaker price always go up to nex gen consoles could be anywher from 700-800 and pc's even higher but that doesn't mean they're expensive.
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Hard to tell. Hopefully they will all learn that consoles should not cost over $300 and should only be good at one thing... gaming.

Sadly though, it seems as if the gaming console might be dieing. Next-gen, they will most likely all be gimped PC's that don't have any of the freedom or customizability of true PC's, that is, if the evolutionary trend continues.foxhound_fox

You want gaming to die? By keeping them in 300 buck range that will lead to a HUGE limit in power and advancement, no online, no harddrives...No nothing! Why limit the growth of the industry? 400 to 500 is fine and more than justified. The 360 really adds a lot to gaming and I see NO reason to kill consoles by limiting them. Full on 400!

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#27 leonhead
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I'm hoping 300-450
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#28 Unholy_Smite
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I'm hoping 300-450leonhead

Since the 360 is 399 it's possible.

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not that all i'm saying advaced technology, like and all gaming thing, cost more money and considering the dollar is always getting weaker price will still continue to rise. however higher price doesn't mean expensive just higher price. as technology advances and the dollar get weaker price always go up to nex gen consoles could be anywher from 700-800 and pc's even higher but that doesn't mean they're expensive.Ragashahs


No, it doesn't, the real purchasing power of a person nowadays is *higher* than the purchasing power of a person fifty years ago. Narrowly focusing on the strength of the dollar doesn't give you an accurate picture of progress - I highly suggest taking a few macroeconomics courses to better understand the fallacious nature of your claim.

The actual dollar cost of PC parts has fallen, and when we adjust for inflation, we find PC parts are *less expensive* than they ever have been. The inflation-adjusted *real* cost of building a gaming PC to run games on medium-high settings is at an all time low. Consoles may have jumped in price from last generation, but gaming PCs haven't.

The price of consoles will fall next generation, and thanks to inflation, that fall will be even greater than the printed dollar value implies. I fully suspect the targeted launch price tag of eigth gen consoles will be between $200 and $400.
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If consoles start going passed the $600 mark, just invest in a PC instead. Consoles are supposed to be cheap, and if you think about it they're really just cheap watered down gaming computers for casuals and people with little technical know how who like videogames.

Edit: Glitchspot, jeez it never fails -sigh-

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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"] not that all i'm saying advaced technology, like and all gaming thing, cost more money and considering the dollar is always getting weaker price will still continue to rise. however higher price doesn't mean expensive just higher price. as technology advances and the dollar get weaker price always go up to nex gen consoles could be anywher from 700-800 and pc's even higher but that doesn't mean they're expensive.subrosian


No, it doesn't, the real purchasing power of a person nowadays is *higher* than the purchasing power of a person fifty years ago. Narrowly focusing on the strength of the dollar doesn't give you an accurate picture of progress - I highly suggest taking a few macroeconomics courses to better understand the fallacious nature of your claim.

The actual dollar cost of PC parts has fallen, and when we adjust for inflation, we find PC parts are *less expensive* than they ever have been. The inflation-adjusted *real* cost of building a gaming PC to run games on medium-high settings is at an all time low. Consoles may have jumped in price from last generation, but gaming PCs haven't.

The price of consoles will fall next generation, and thanks to inflation, that fall will be even greater than the printed dollar value implies. I fully suspect the targeted launch price tag of eigth gen consoles will be between $200 and $400.

No next gen system will be 200 bucks! Nintendo's will be 299 and both sony and ms will shoot for 399, unless they commit suicide and cut power from this gen.

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The same if not cheaper. The manufacturers will be willing to take a bigger loss in order to hit a lower price point since the slow sales of the PS3. While the consoles will probably be more expensive to manufacture, they won't cost any more.

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If consoles start going passed the $600 mark, just invest in a PC instead. Consoles are supposed to be cheap, and if you think about it they're really just cheap watered down gaming computers for casuals and people with little technical know how who like videogames.

Edit: Glitchspot, jeez it never fails -sigh-

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WHAT!?!?!?! Consoles are not just for casuals, but for hardcores to and are not meant to be cheap but to play games. If consoles start being run by casuals and lessening power and game quaility I will jump to PC's with 90% of the market by next gen!

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Hard to tell. Hopefully they will all learn that consoles should not cost over $300 and should only be good at one thing... gaming.

Sadly though, it seems as if the gaming console might be dieing. Next-gen, they will most likely all be gimped PC's that don't have any of the freedom or customizability of true PC's, that is, if the evolutionary trend continues.Unholy_Smite

You want gaming to die? By keeping them in 300 buck range that will lead to a HUGE limit in power and advancement, no online, no harddrives...No nothing! Why limit the growth of the industry? 400 to 500 is fine and more than justified. The 360 really adds a lot to gaming and I see NO reason to kill consoles by limiting them. Full on 400!



The Xbox had both a hard drive and online, and it launched for $299, and fell to $199 only a few months after launch. The industry wasn't *limited* at all by this price tag. You're also ignoring the law of diminishing returns - that is to say, at low prices, a small increase in cost can lead to large increases in system power, however at high prices, it takes a substantially larger investment to get the same returns.

The industry grows over time thanks to improvements in manufacturing technology, Moore's Law has held true. Interestingly enough, the interaction between diminishing returns and Moore's Law paints a picture as to why a high-priced console is a terrible investment. In essence, spending expotentially more money at a fixed point in time, to only moderately improve system power, when in only a few months, expontential gains in power will cost only a small amount more money.

Cheap consoles on a shorter lifecycle make more sense than huge initial investments for technology that quickly becomes outdated, yet is held onto simply becasue it cost so much initially, and customers must be convinced of their "investment" (while companies recover the loss for manufacturing such expensive machinary at a loss).
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[QUOTE="coolviper2003"]

If consoles start going passed the $600 mark, just invest in a PC instead. Consoles are supposed to be cheap, and if you think about it they're really just cheap watered down gaming computers for casuals and people with little technical know how who like videogames.

Edit: Glitchspot, jeez it never fails -sigh-

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WHAT!?!?!?! Consoles are not just for casuals, but for hardcores to and are not meant to be cheap but to play games. If consoles start being run by casuals and lessening power and game quaility I will jump to PC's with 90% of the market by next gen!

I didn't say just for casuals, I also said "AND people with little technical know how who like videogames." Usually if you know how to build a computer you probably own a decent one to play games. And it is true, consoles are meant to be cheap, if they weren't no one would buy them over a PC unless you really had to have those few good exclusive games.
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"] not that all i'm saying advaced technology, like and all gaming thing, cost more money and considering the dollar is always getting weaker price will still continue to rise. however higher price doesn't mean expensive just higher price. as technology advances and the dollar get weaker price always go up to nex gen consoles could be anywher from 700-800 and pc's even higher but that doesn't mean they're expensive.Unholy_Smite



No, it doesn't, the real purchasing power of a person nowadays is *higher* than the purchasing power of a person fifty years ago. Narrowly focusing on the strength of the dollar doesn't give you an accurate picture of progress - I highly suggest taking a few macroeconomics courses to better understand the fallacious nature of your claim.

The actual dollar cost of PC parts has fallen, and when we adjust for inflation, we find PC parts are *less expensive* than they ever have been. The inflation-adjusted *real* cost of building a gaming PC to run games on medium-high settings is at an all time low. Consoles may have jumped in price from last generation, but gaming PCs haven't.

The price of consoles will fall next generation, and thanks to inflation, that fall will be even greater than the printed dollar value implies. I fully suspect the targeted launch price tag of eigth gen consoles will be between $200 and $400.

No next gen system will be 200 bucks! Nintendo's will be 299 and both sony and ms will shoot for 399, unless they commit suicide and cut power from this gen.



The GeForce 8600gt, a $115 GPU, is capable of rendering Oblivion with a greater visual fidelity than the Xbox 360. This is less than two years later. In another four years, what a mid-range GPU will be capable of will make the 8th gen leap look stunning. There is absolutely no reason to build $500 ~ $600 consoles. If you were actually interested in amazing visual fidelity and progress, and were not concerned about cost, you would build a high-end gaming PC.

Consoles must strike a balance between cost and quality - they are, after all, a system designed to be affordable to the masses, and tempting to publishers by offering a huge install base. If you are simply concerned about graphical quality, I'd suggest a gaming PC. Implying that the industry needs (or even benefits from) the existance of a $600 console suggests that consoles should "push" technology, rather than embody ideas that have become cost-effective.

In essence, you're implying a device designed with the goal of selling to the masses, and built with a five year lifecycle, should come out pushing technology, because otherwise it will "limit the industry"? Ignoring hardware progress for five years by locking a system to such a long lifecycle is "harmful" too - but that's the whole point of consoles - to essentially make steps forward less often, and to make those steps affordable.

The console industry is hurt by $600 consoles. Higher prices mean fewer people buy a console, and with a smaller install base, publishers cannot afford to make as many games. It also means many niches are too small to have games targeted towards them, and the incentive to create exclusives that fully utilize a console dissappears. In other words, you can't ignore the needs of software publishing for their to be as many people as possible playing on that console.

There needs to be something inbetween what all three systems have done. We can't ignore graphics / sound advancement like the Wii, we can't push new formats before it's cost effective like the PS3, and we can't have a company looking to nickel-and-dime the way the Xbox 360 does (especially being closed to users bringing their own harddrive, keyboard, and mouse). The console industry needs a $300 system somewhere in between all three of these - as that ultimately would be the console of choice for many gamers.

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Well IMO the next generation of consoles will start in the fall of 2009 or 2010. Nintendo could get us started off in 2009. If not, I believe you could see both Nintendo and MS launching a new console in 2010. Both will have either an HD-DVD or Blu-ray drive, which ever one seems to be winning by then and they will probably be in the $300 to $400 range. A year later Sony will have their console in 2011, although if the PS3 keeps on taking water (losing money)like it has, you could see Sony pull an MS and drop the support for that console after only 3 or 4 years and launch a new system in 2009 or 2010.
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probably about 300-400. It's pretty obvious that most gamers don't want to pay over $400 for a console. I really don't think we'll see the big three go for cutting edge tech as much as we did this gen. Nintendo will probably make a fairly hi-tech system, but keep it around the 250 range, and probably offer a mario game this time around. They'll keep the wiimote with some major changes to it. MS is going to push software again, and probably push online alot more (full online games, movies, TV, chat, the 360 will probably aim to replace PC media centers). PS4 will most likely try to push online also getting most major studios on board and keeping their own films out of MS's marketplace. They'll probably also develop several in house components and it'll take 1/2 a gen for fanboys to figure out they're all hype just like the last 3 generations.
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IMHO, I think (but I could be wrong) the Xbox 360 will be Microsoft's last console. They've lost so much money with this 3 year warrenty extension, they're doing horribly in Japan, Xbox 360 exclusive games are going to the PC, and they can't seem to differentiatethemselves well enough from the PC to want to own both platforms. I think they'll end up giving the PC much more support in the coming years and just remain a software developer.

This leaves Nintendo and Sony left in the console race. It's pretty clear that Nintendo is going the casual route and it's likely their next console will cater to the casuals just as much as the Wii is now. This leaves only Sony to give hardcore console gamers what they want. Now, depending on how well or bad the PS3 does this gen, Sony's next console might go the casual route and ruin gaming for the hardcore gamers, or they'll release anotherall in one multimedia hub.

So, what are we left with to satisfy the hardcore if my predictions are correct? PC gaming. I honestly think consoles of next gen are going to be more casual driven, and PC gaming will gain even more popularity to satisfy the hardcore gamers.

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PS2 = $300, PS3 = $600, PS4 =$1200? Probably not. I think Sony learnt their lesson this gen.JimmyT2

Sony have never learn anything new if they did they would'nt have priced their console so high. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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#41 Eponique
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I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.
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#43 eastside49er
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I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.Eponique

I didn't know shipping 12+ million units WW was failing, with probably another 5 to 6 million coming for the rest of this year, but hey I guess some people have unreal expectations. :?

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Get's any higher and I'll become a hermit.
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#45 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.eastside49er

I didn't know shipping 12+ million units WW was failing, with probably another 5 to 6 million coming for the rest of this year, but hey I guess some people have unreal expectations. :?

100 million > 12 million ^.^

IDK if that's gonna happen, but if it does, than Sony and MS will change their pricing.

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#46 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.Eponique

I didn't know shipping 12+ million units WW was failing, with probably another 5 to 6 million coming for the rest of this year, but hey I guess some people have unreal expectations. :?

100 million > 12 million ^.^

IDK if that's gonna happen, but if it does, than Sony and MS will change their pricing.

So wait you are comparing the PS2, which has been out 7 years to a console that hasn't even been out 2 years. Great comparison. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Eponique"]I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.eastside49er

I didn't know shipping 12+ million units WW was failing, with probably another 5 to 6 million coming for the rest of this year, but hey I guess some people have unreal expectations. :?

Stop being close-minded. Microsoft hasn't been a complete failure this gen, but you have to be a blind fanboy to not see that they have been far from a complete success. The 360 is on pace to do more or less as good as the original Xbox. Obviously that's not what Microsoft wanted. I'm pretty sure that their goal was to be market leader, or at the very least out-sell the original Xbox by a healthy margin. Also, the whole reliability issues and warranty extension is going to cost Microsoft huge money, and to top it off, their reputation has probably taken some pretty irrepairable damage. I mean think about it, when next gen launches, if Microsoft's system has any kind of hardware issues it's going to get blown out of proportions because of what happened this gen, and trust me almost EVERY system has some issues particularly at launch.

So 11 or so million sold units is "ok," but don't overlook the fact that in a couple of months the system will have been out for nearly 2 years and this upcoming holiday season will be it's 3rd holiday season on the market.

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Over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDD!

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videocompiler for the win :D

sony - $300 model and a $400 model

MS - $300 and $400 model

Ninty - $150

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#49 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.eastside49er

I didn't know shipping 12+ million units WW was failing, with probably another 5 to 6 million coming for the rest of this year, but hey I guess some people have unreal expectations. :?

100 million > 12 million ^.^

IDK if that's gonna happen, but if it does, than Sony and MS will change their pricing.

So wait you are comparing the PS2, which has been out 7 years to a console that hasn't even been out 2 years. Great comparison. :roll:

Wii.

As I said "IDK if that will happen". Peter Moore himself said "I don't want 25 million, I want 90 million".

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#50 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I think it'll be $200-$300. Considering MS and Sony are failing left and right with their $400 and $600.Zerostatic0

I didn't know shipping 12+ million units WW was failing, with probably another 5 to 6 million coming for the rest of this year, but hey I guess some people have unreal expectations. :?

Stop being close-minded. Microsoft hasn't been a complete failure this gen, but you have to be a blind fanboy to not see that they have been far from a complete success. The 360 is on pace to do more or less as good as the original Xbox. Obviously that's not what Microsoft wanted. I'm pretty sure that their goal was to be market leader, or at the very least out-sell the original Xbox by a healthy margin. Also, the whole reliability issues and warranty extension is going to cost Microsoft huge money, and to top it off, their reputation has probably taken some pretty irrepairable damage. I mean think about it, when next gen launches, if Microsoft's system has any kind of hardware issues it's going to get blown out of proportions because of what happened this gen, and trust me almost EVERY system has some issues particularly at launch.

So 11 or so million sold units is "ok," but don't overlook the fact that in a couple of months the system will have been out for nearly 2 years and this upcoming holiday season will be it's 3rd holiday season on the market.

Well I hate to correct you, but the 360 is on pace to double XBOX sales. Last year in Q4 MS shipped 4+ million units WW for just that quarter. With a price drop and Halo 3, this year they are expected to ship 5 to 6 million in that quarter and of course by the time they get there they will have probably shipped an additional 1 to 1.5 million WW for the Q3 (July-September). Add it up, that means MS could be up around 18 to 19 million shipped WW by years end (That would be 18 to 19 million in just 2 years). In retrospect, the XBOX sold around 25 million WW in 5 years. The 360 will be over 20 million shipped WW by the middle of next year and by the end of next year will have passed XBOX total lifetime sales in just 3 years.

Oh and lets not talk about XBL which has seen a 250% growth in users since the 360 hit the scene 2 years ago and is estimated to have 10 million users by end of June 2008. Yes the 360 compares to the XBOX as much a Pinto compares to a Porsche.