How naive are Microsoft to think that they can get away with everything?

Seems like MS is betting everything on Xbox One to spearhead the next generation of services.

If you look into the future it's apparent Windows can't maintain market share over iOS, Android, and Linux. Xbox One and Xbox Live services become paramount in maintaining cash flow.

Kinect focus on 360 was the "getting away with it". This platform is not for core gamers. It's the all-powerful family-swallowing box of doom, and they're going to do very well with it.

While I dont like the direction MS is taking with Xbox One, its still too early to say their next console will flop..

We must wait till games get announced and gamers will surely get more interested in Xbox One..

I kinda feel MS is actually going after Apple and google consumers opposed to the gaming market. This will be there undoing 

guard12

It's really funny the way they have made it really convenient for themselves and inconvenient for the consumers lol. Alot of side charges that are evident to be, yet they haven't even touched on them yet either.CJ_ofCamelot

Best post in SW I have seen in quite a while +1 my man.

.campzor

a video game console that does not have games its number one top priority has no right to succeed. if xboxOne ends up winning with there current formula, the gaming business as we know it is in serious troublereaver-x

Bingo... Anybody that supports the X1 is supporting the decline of the gaming industry as a whole.

I agree for the most part, but as always, you guys here love to exagerate the facts! PS4 does seem to be more powerful and more focused on core gaming, true, but Xbox One is not anywhere as bad as people here make it sound. As far as i know, Xbox One is still 8+ times more powerful than 360 and PS3 and, just like PS4, seems to be getting full third party support.

Microsoft could care less what happens with the game industry... they want to milk the gamers and casuals for every penny they can and then they will likely bounce at the first signs of trouble after they ruin the industry. They have proved that over the past 4 years now... and especially after revealing this piece of crap.

The way to stop this? DO NOT support them NOW.

PS4 I think is going to have a bit better launch, but I can imagine all the Halo and Gears fanboys along with achievement whores migrating to XBox One no matter what.

So as much as MS is sucking right now they will still sell a lot. I wont fall for it, getting a PS4, that will keep me happy for a few years, buy a Xbox One when price is very low mid next gen.

I agree for the most part, but as always, you guys here love to exagerate the facts! PS4 does seem to be more powerful and more focused on core gaming, true, but Xbox One is not anywhere as bad as people here make it sound. As far as i know, Xbox One is still 8+ times more powerful than 360 and PS3 and, just like PS4, seems to be getting full third party support.

PAL360

You are completely missing the point....

Microsoft is setting up this line "With low physica sales and high digital sales we understand gaming is changing and you as gamers want all digital products!"

THAT is the way this is moving... look at the used games policy they are forcing...

THERE ARE NO USED GAMES!! What the hell is the point of buying a physical copy if the copy does NOTHING? That is what they want us to think.... WHY? SO they can contine forward with "always online" and nickel and diming us to death. Microsoft is trying to back the gaming industry into a corner... they are showing the GAMERS what they really think of them by going so casual and chasing the quick buck the Wii made.

If Microsoft ruins the game industry for all of us they could give a shit less... By supporting them now you are playing into their scheme... you need to look at the bigger picture. The day ALL gaming ges all digital, always online, etc. is the day I am done...

like I said, supporting THIS crap now will solidify this crap as an industry standard... we have the chance now to prevent this from happening.

[QUOTE="reaver-x"]a video game console that does not have games its number one top priority has no right to succeed. if xboxOne ends up winning with there current formula, the gaming business as we know it is in serious troubleWitIsWisdom

Bingo... Anybody that supports the X1 is supporting the decline of the gaming industry as a whole.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I agree for the most part, but as always, you guys here love to exagerate the facts! PS4 does seem to be more powerful and more focused on core gaming, true, but Xbox One is not anywhere as bad as people here make it sound. As far as i know, Xbox One is still 8+ times more powerful than 360 and PS3 and, just like PS4, seems to be getting full third party support.

WitIsWisdom

You are completely missing the point....

Microsoft is setting up this line "With low physica sales and high digital sales we understand gaming is changing and you as gamers want all digital products!"

THAT is the way this is moving... look at the used games policy they are forcing...

THERE ARE NO USED GAMES!! What the hell is the point of buying a physical copy if the copy does NOTHING? That is what they want us to think.... WHY? SO they can contine forward with "always online" and nickel and diming us to death. Microsoft is trying to back the gaming industry into a corner... they are showing the GAMERS what they really think of them by going so casual and chasing the quick buck the Wii made.

If Microsoft ruins the game industry for all of us they could give a shit less... By supporting them now you are playing into their scheme... you need to look at the bigger picture. The day ALL gaming ges all digital, always online, etc. is the day I am done...

like I said, supporting THIS crap now will solidify this crap as an industry standard... we have the chance now to prevent this from happening.

Dude, no matter how many times you say it, doesn't make it right. There are used games. I proved you wrong yesterday. So do some research and be quiet.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I agree for the most part, but as always, you guys here love to exagerate the facts! PS4 does seem to be more powerful and more focused on core gaming, true, but Xbox One is not anywhere as bad as people here make it sound. As far as i know, Xbox One is still 8+ times more powerful than 360 and PS3 and, just like PS4, seems to be getting full third party support.

WitIsWisdom

You are completely missing the point....

Microsoft is setting up this line "With low physica sales and high digital sales we understand gaming is changing and you as gamers want all digital products!"

THAT is the way this is moving... look at the used games policy they are forcing...

THERE ARE NO USED GAMES!! What the hell is the point of buying a physical copy if the copy does NOTHING? That is what they want us to think.... WHY? SO they can contine forward with "always online" and nickel and diming us to death. Microsoft is trying to back the gaming industry into a corner... they are showing the GAMERS what they really think of them by going so casual and chasing the quick buck the Wii made.

If Microsoft ruins the game industry for all of us they could give a shit less... By supporting them now you are playing into their scheme... you need to look at the bigger picture. The day ALL gaming ges all digital, always online, etc. is the day I am done...

like I said, supporting THIS crap now will solidify this crap as an industry standard... we have the chance now to prevent this from happening.

I am ok with my 360, but for the next gen I think Ill move to PS (am not a fanboi of any company), I dont want a media center I want just a good game console (and I doubt non gamers wanting a media center will look for an xbox either).

Besides Sony has lots of exclusives now, while what ms offered? Partnership with EA the most hated and ugly game company.

Add to it how they screwed the indy devs, and there are very cool indy games developed in the past years like minecraft, terraria, dont starve now all those will consider before going to xbox.

The fanbois defending this fiasco think twice before buy, there is a history of failed consoles, some were promising like Saturn, and this one is sinking before launch. In a couple of years you will have just a very expensive voice TV remote control.

I dont know.  I'm done trying to understand the logic behind defending MS at this point.  Not after the last several years of Kinect and milking Halo and Forza for all they are worth.  At first?  Sure.  Basically everything good they did on 360 happened in the first 2 years...Gears of War, Crackdown, Halo 3, Forza, Bioshock and Mass Effect and Lost Planet (all of which might as well have been 360 exclusives considering how long it took for them to get to PS3).  Now?  All the people I know who own 360 are playing COD, BF3, and other multiplatform games I already own on PS3.

There is a huge following for Halo, so I can understand getting a Xbox One for that.  Otherwise, it's clear Sony has developed a much better track record for core exclusives, and oh by the way, you can still play COD, Battelfield 4, Destiny, Watchdogs, etc. on PS4.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I agree for the most part, but as always, you guys here love to exagerate the facts! PS4 does seem to be more powerful and more focused on core gaming, true, but Xbox One is not anywhere as bad as people here make it sound. As far as i know, Xbox One is still 8+ times more powerful than 360 and PS3 and, just like PS4, seems to be getting full third party support.

WitIsWisdom

You are completely missing the point....

Microsoft is setting up this line "With low physica sales and high digital sales we understand gaming is changing and you as gamers want all digital products!"

THAT is the way this is moving... look at the used games policy they are forcing...

THERE ARE NO USED GAMES!! What the hell is the point of buying a physical copy if the copy does NOTHING? That is what they want us to think.... WHY? SO they can contine forward with "always online" and nickel and diming us to death. Microsoft is trying to back the gaming industry into a corner... they are showing the GAMERS what they really think of them by going so casual and chasing the quick buck the Wii made.

If Microsoft ruins the game industry for all of us they could give a shit less... By supporting them now you are playing into their scheme... you need to look at the bigger picture. The day ALL gaming ges all digital, always online, etc. is the day I am done...

like I said, supporting THIS crap now will solidify this crap as an industry standard... we have the chance now to prevent this from happening.

Again, i agree with most of what you just said, that's why i won't support MS, next gen. Sony's strategy seems to be alot more gamer/developper friendly, this time around.

That said, the scenario is not as dramatic as you are making it sound. Xbox One is still a good all in one system, for those who care. It will have tons of third party games aswell, some great core exclusives, a reliable internet service, an awesome controller, etc.....and on top of that, we all know competition is a good thing.