I find it mind-boggling. Without a must-have exclusive, the luke-warm ps3, somehow the ps4 is running away with this gen. Truly a surprise.
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I find it mind-boggling. Without a must-have exclusive, the luke-warm ps3, somehow the ps4 is running away with this gen. Truly a surprise.
Not at all. Microsoft and Nintendo blew their marketing badly, while Sony delivered the right message at the right time.
It was MS's fault to be honest....they blew it. I love the console now but they basically handed them this gen with all their pre launch nonsense.
It's early still. Hell. I didn't even buy a PS3 until past the 2nd year. It'll be the same for the PS4. I'm just waiting for the number of Ps4 exclusives (that I like) to hit critical mass.
No I'm not surprised. I prefer the Xbox One because I've alway been "an Xbox guy" and like the games and features more, but I bought a PS4 at launch and waited to get the One once they dropped the Kinect and the price. But this is why it was/is a success - at launch it had been eight years since the previous gen launched so pretty much EVERYONE was hungry for the next gen and was going to buy one of the consoles either at launch or within a year of launch; neither console had a must have exclusive; the PS4 is more powerful (although only slightly so and most people, myself included, can't even tell the difference); the PS4 was $100 cheaper. So, kind of a no-brainer that the PS4 has had so much success. But whatever, I don't care about sales. All I know is that I get no benefit from how many consoles Sony sells and I very rarely play mine as I like the Xbox One 10 times better.
Without a must-have exclusive
And you say that with a straight face when Bloodborne just happened
move along, nothing to see here
It' amazing the rate the ps4 is selling especially with slow progressing from ps3 to this gen. I guess marketing delivered at the right time and the xone shot itself in the foot pre-launch. Big companies spend big money on quality advertisement for a reason.
I don't think it's mind boggling. Sony has constantly shown long term support with games and services even late into a consoles life span, even if they have a new one on the market. They produce more Unique tittles then any other platform from talented in house development teams, and offer experiences that Both the other major competitors wouldn't even think to produce. Looking back at history Sony consoles at end of their span generally have the most varied tittles list, almost all ways if not most often higher rated then the competition, and often their systems perform better then the competitions. So I don't see why it can be mind boggling when it's the only system capable of 1080p and coming from one of the top if not the leader in the console game market since the 90's.
I find it mind-boggling. Without a must-have exclusive, the luke-warm ps3, somehow the ps4 is running away with this gen. Truly a surprise.
The PlayStation one and PlayStation 2 were both the best selling console in the their gen. PS3 sold over 80 million consoles and was the most powerful console last gen, but Sony made several mistakes that ended up hurting it and giving the competition the advantage. The PS3 was too expensive, there were several versions at launch and had horrible publicity.
I'm surprised that the PS4 is so successful that even certain lemmings can't stop talking about it or making threads about it.
It was MS's fault to be honest....they blew it. I love the console now but they basically handed them this gen with all their pre launch nonsense.
love the console now? if i remember correctly you were all for ps4 at the beginning of this gen.
@ps4hasnogames: Nah man way off....I am an xbox supporter and have been since the launch of the OG xbox.
I don't find the sales surprising. That's fueled by marketing, and Sony banked on Xbox's disturbingly bad launch PR.
I do find the lack of quality exclusives a bit surprising though. This gen is a lot slower than even last gen when it comes to good exclusives. So far I'm only enjoying Bloodborne.
I was pretty surprised by the PS4 and Xbox One's success although the economy is on the upswing right now. It'll be interesting to see if the sales continue to do well or if they peter out.
I don't think it's mind boggling. Sony has constantly shown long term support with games and services even late into a consoles life span, even if they have a new one on the market. They produce more Unique tittles then any other platform from talented in house development teams, and offer experiences that Both the other major competitors wouldn't even think to produce. Looking back at history Sony consoles at end of their span generally have the most varied tittles list, almost all ways if not most often higher rated then the competition, and often their systems perform better then the competitions. So I don't see why it can be mind boggling when it's the only system capable of 1080p and coming from one of the top if not the leader in the console game market since the 90's.
this is something that i can never knock about sony. I STILL have a backlog of PS2 games to play. They supported the thing for over a decade.
I don't think it's mind boggling. Sony has constantly shown long term support with games and services even late into a consoles life span, even if they have a new one on the market. They produce more Unique tittles then any other platform from talented in house development teams, and offer experiences that Both the other major competitors wouldn't even think to produce. Looking back at history Sony consoles at end of their span generally have the most varied tittles list, almost all ways if not most often higher rated then the competition, and often their systems perform better then the competitions. So I don't see why it can be mind boggling when it's the only system capable of 1080p and coming from one of the top if not the leader in the console game market since the 90's.
this is something that i can never knock about sony. I STILL have a backlog of PS2 games to play. They supported the thing for over a decade.
i guess you should change your name since ur buying the ps4 ur name should change to yeah im switchin to ps4 instead of the one u have
I find it mind-boggling. Without a must-have exclusive, the luke-warm ps3, somehow the ps4 is running away with this gen. Truly a surprise.
it must be shocking for you to discover other human beings A) do not think the same as you; B) majority aren't forum dwelling, graphics scrutinizing, knowing what is exclusive and isn't, human beings.
Bottom line the only outside chance MS had with X1 was squandered with E3 2013 debacle. I still never thought they would outsell PS brand world wide as the only one to really do that has been Nintendo one time in four gens together. PS is the heavyweight, world wide favored brand every time out. Even at E3 last year, IGN said before the Sony conference "of course the heavyweight goes last". Why any of you thought people were suddenly going to give up their preferred brand in most of the world is ludicrous.
I find it mind-boggling. Without a must-have exclusive, the luke-warm ps3, somehow the ps4 is running away with this gen. Truly a surprise.
after seeing ms e3 and the months following, not surprised at all. I think ms dropped the ball big time and its still resonating with ppl today.
and a lukewarm ps3 doesnt mean anything. Ps2 ran away from the comp but didnt mean anything because sony botched the first couple of years if the ps3
I'm surprised that you are surprised, when your only competitors either have no third party support or have shown themselves up to be anti consumer to the very core it's no surprise.
Lets not even mentions specs or the PC brigade will be out with a lynch mob.
Microsoft's blunder with the Xbox One marketing, policies and overall message in the beginning is what catapulted the PlayStation 4 to the level of success it currently resides, all Sony had to do was simply be there. You have to remember that in the upwards of 50% of the PlayStation 4 community are previous Xbox/360 owners turned Sony users due to the upset and outrage, that is what factors into a big part of this.
If Microsoft would have been doing what they are now and had the message they do now from the beginning, the tables would likely be opposite of what they are now, or at the very least close to it. The PlayStation 4 is not where it is because of anything it actually did, there are some things it did, but it's moreso because of what Microsoft did and did not do.
Not at all. Microsoft and Nintendo blew their marketing badly, while Sony delivered the right message at the right time.
^ ^ This.
Part of the writing was on the wall towards the end of last gen. Sony was the only one still releasing a steady stream of exclusives and supporting their console to the very end. MS and Nintendo (Nintendo especially) gave up after 2010. All that good will Sony picked up towards last gen and MS and Nintendo shooting themselves in the foot at the beginning of this gen is the reason Sony is so successful right now.
It has no competition like Wii had none waggle wise. So no, not at all. X1 is a poorly designed vhs that no one wants.
I'm not surprised that it's outselling Xbone (technically it probably is the better console), but I am surprised it's outselling Xbone as much as it is... I think a lot of the sales are from people jumping on board the hype train.
I find it mind-boggling. Without a must-have exclusive, the luke-warm ps3, somehow the ps4 is running away with this gen. Truly a surprise.
The most mind-boggling console was Wii in that matter ... not PS4. PS4 is a strong brand all over the world , their exclusives second only to Nintendo as of quality and second to none when it comes to both variety and quantity. Appealing price , hype , established brand , exclusives and new IPs ( something that other consoles taking very lightly , yes exclusive AAA caliber NEW IPs ) and there you have it. So PS4 mind-boggling ? Naah , i dont think so ... The system will have a bright future even with kinda slow start unlike others ...that will be dead soon or later.
I was pretty surprised by the PS4 and Xbox One's success although the economy is on the upswing right now. It'll be interesting to see if the sales continue to do well or if they peter out.
It absolutely is not on the upswing right now.
Perplexed at people stupidity, how can a system with no games sell so much?
There are something like 200+ games you can play on the PS4 right now.
I'm confused on how you think others are stupid.
I am not surprised at all that the best console is selling the most and everyone except butthurt people are enjoying the festivities. I just enjoyed a game of MLB The Show 15 and played LBP3,then Bloodborne after that. All are great games and the PS4 has 8 of them with another great edition of The Show.PS4 has all of the games since it sells more software than every platform including PC,so this notion of PS4 not having games is slly.
PS4 has the most exclusives this year so far and more to come while MS has 1 and Nintendo has two so far as noted by Amazon.Long live play indeed.Bloodborne is the best exclusive on any platform since The Last of Us.All should celebrate these great times that are upon us.
The Dualshock 4 is the greatest controller conceived, the game design from hardware and software are the best and the features with share play and the share button are innovative.No console comes close in history to this great revolution.Add it all up and you get "Greatness is Here" so PS4=beast in sales.
The thing that is hard to believe is that no one I know has an XboxOne and everyone who had a 360 has a PS4 now or switched to PS3.Only my nephew has a WiiU,but he has a PS4 as his main console and I don't know a soul who games on PC.If other consoles had better games than surely they would not be flopping and beasting instead like the great PS4.
Without a must-have exclusive
And you say that with a straight face when Bloodborne just happened
move along, nothing to see here
Why do I constantly have to explain things for the OP because people have no bearing as to what is his clearly implied context... He's talking about why the console has been a success up until this point, why it's been selling the way it has since it launched when it's been so underwhelming, lacking in the exclusives department and sparsely receiving updates or any real changes. Bloodborne did just happen, that would explain things to a degree NOW, it released just six days ago, but the other 16 months where this console has been an update vacant and exclusive wasteland? What about them?
That is what the OP is talking about, you people need to stop trying to hamstring Bloodborne into everything, it just came out, it's irrelevant to this type of discussion. Bu....bu...bu....but Bloodborne.... No, it's irrelevant.
Without a must-have exclusive
And you say that with a straight face when Bloodborne just happened
move along, nothing to see here
Bloodborne did just happen, that would explain things to a degree NOW, it released just six days ago, but the other 16 months where this console has been an update vacant and exclusive wasteland? What about them?
This topic has been done to death since 2013.
There are a lot of variables. Quality exclusives would have been nice (and are one element of success), but that's not the only thing that moves consoles, as we saw in various consoles gens and as we are seeing once again this gen even looking at the Wii U's exclusives.
There was no surprise.
M$ failed to win devs over as well as made clear by the number of games not on Xbone. There was a decent case for exclusives for Xbone, BUT it wasn't that strong a case for games who buy consoles for games and it was the only major advantage for a gamers consideration (however slight) while Xbox execs were being drowned by a sea of games flooding over to the competition. Besides the PR blunders, the game divide should not be happening as both machines released Nov 2013 but M$ refuses to even change something as simple as the parity clause and they still focus more on external 3rd party deals more than their 1st party offerings when compared to how the other two companies divide their resources.
http://www.listwar.com/released-games/
Without a must-have exclusive
And you say that with a straight face when Bloodborne just happened
move along, nothing to see here
Bloodborne did just happen, that would explain things to a degree NOW, it released just six days ago, but the other 16 months where this console has been an update vacant and exclusive wasteland? What about them?
This topic has been done to death since 2013.
There are a lot of variables. Quality exclusives would have been nice (and are one element of success), but that's not the only thing that moves consoles, as we saw in various consoles gens and as we are seeing once again this gen.
There was no surprise.
M$ failed to win devs over as well as made clear by the number of games not on Xbone. There was a decent case for exclusives for Xbone, BUT it wasn't that strong a case and it was the only advantage while they were being drowned by a sea of games flooding over to the competition.
http://www.listwar.com/released-games/
Why are you trying to explain things to me I already know? Everyone already knows these things I was simply refuting your agreement to that stupid Bloodborne comment as it's been a near total irrelevance to this consoles success up until this point.
This topic has been done to death since 2013.
There are a lot of variables. Quality exclusives would have been nice (and are one element of success), but that's not the only thing that moves consoles, as we saw in various consoles gens and as we are seeing once again this gen even looking at the Wii U's exclusives.
There was no surprise.
M$ failed to win devs over as well as made clear by the number of games not on Xbone. There was a decent case for exclusives for Xbone, BUT it wasn't that strong a case for games who buy consoles for games and it was the only major advantage for a gamers consideration (however slight) while Xbox execs were being drowned by a sea of games flooding over to the competition. Besides the PR blunders, the game divide should not be happening as both machines released Nov 2013 but M$ refuses to even change something as simple as the parity clause and they still focus more on external 3rd party deals more than their 1st party offerings when compared to how the other two companies divide their resources.
http://www.listwar.com/released-games/
Why are you trying to explain things to me I already know? Everyone already knows these things I was simply refuting your agreement to that stupid Bloodborne comment as it's been a near total irrelevance to this consoles success up until this point.
Why are you trying to explain things to me that I already know? You should have quoted the other guy for posting it.
To answer you, it's simple. It's because you asked.
Bloodborne did just happen, that would explain things to a degree NOW, it released just six days ago, butthe other 16 months where this console has been an update vacant and exclusive wasteland? What about them?
What about those 16 months prior to Bloodborne? Answer above. Since you already know why the Xbone is struggling (in comparison to PS4, but doing fine on it's own imo) in getting consumers and lacking multiplatform games that could be easily ported to Xbone, don't worry about reading it.
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