How the did Grand Theft Auto IV get higher scores than Saints Row 2!?

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#1 g805ge
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Grand Theft Auto IV is boring and prententious crap! It strayed away from everything that made the GTA series great and gone for a more "realistic" approach, but its not as fun as the wacky and zany over the top gameplay of San Andreas. The story is bad too with annoying characters and a cliche script. However it was high ratings from critics to rival Ocarina of Time and the game isn't even worth a 7.

Saints Row 2 plays like the old GTA games and the game was AMAZINGLY fun! It's everything that made GTA great because of the wacky and over the top gameplay.

I guess they overrated GTA IV because of two things; bribe and hype!

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#2 funked_up
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Because it is a better game? And no, SR2 ISN'T like the old GTA games, the old GTA games were polished and were excellent games, not turds like SR2.
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#3 aaronmullan
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Because SR2 is a terribly un-polished game. The framerates from the get go were terrible.
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#4 emorainbo
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Well I have both games and so far, GTAIV is my favorite game this gen.

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#5 The_Game21x
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Because GTA IV was a better game, perhaps? :?

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#6 BioShockOwnz
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Because it's a way better and more polished game. I like SR2, btw.

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#7 razgriz_101
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gt4 is a much better polished and much better looking along with the story is much more what we should be expecting, some parts of SR2 just felt like last gen and it was meh still a really good game but it just lacked in many area's.

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#8 wayne_kar
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SR2 was dog dirt on GTA4's shoe

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#10 jg4xchamp
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GTA 4 is the better and more polished game, and quite frankly I still think its worthy of atleast a 9.
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#11 Legendaryscmt
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Because in GTA, trucks don't magically appear in front of you when you're driving.

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#12 Soulja_West
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Saints Row 2 was pretty good. I like the fact that you can pick a voice for your own race.
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#13 emorainbo
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Also this is just something ive noticed, but people who hated GTAIV often didnt even meet Little Jacob in the game. Im not trying to say this is all the people who were dissappointed though.

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#14 Maqda7
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Your opinion is void to the gamespot score. You score it and write a review.
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#15 RoOodriGowW
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Because Saints Row 2 looks and plays like a last gen game , simple.It should be compared to San Andreas not GTAIV.

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#16 navyguy21
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More polish Better production values Excellent Story Better Characters/Character development Better Mechanics Better Online Too bad none of that makes the game FUN!! and i think Saints Row 2 is way more fun than GTA 4, but you have to admit that OVERALL, GTA4 was the better game.
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#17 alextherussian
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Prettier, Better shooting, Good driving (once you get the hang of it), Awesome Music choices (vladivastock fm), a story with feeling and emotion (when compared to other games in the medium).
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#18 SaintBlaze
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SR2 was dog dirt on GTA4's shoe

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Heh, pretty nasty but true nonetheless.

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#19 savebattery
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Neither game is very good.
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#20 PAL360
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Because quality >>> quantity. They are not even at the same league!

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#21 ThePistolGod
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Wait..wait..wait.

Who hacked g805ge's account? This just isn't possible. A post from you that isn't anti-Halo? Even you're "What makes Virtua Fighter good" took a jab at Halo. I must say I am impressed.

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#22 lvgaming
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GTA had better storyline and gameplay compared to SR2, SR2 did a better job with customizing.

I am still boggled how GTA scored a 10?

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#23 savebattery
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GTA had better storyline and gameplay compared to SR2, SR2 did a better job with customizing.

I am still boggled how GTA scored a 10?

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I've seen better stories than GTA IV's written on the wall of bathroom stalls.
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#24 lvgaming
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[QUOTE="lvgaming"]

GTA had better storyline and gameplay compared to SR2, SR2 did a better job with customizing.

I am still boggled how GTA scored a 10?

savebattery

I've seen better stories than GTA IV's written on the wall of bathroom stalls.

Just comparing GTA and SR2 storylines, SR2 wasn't all that great.

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#25 ThePistolGod
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[QUOTE="lvgaming"]

GTA had better storyline and gameplay compared to SR2, SR2 did a better job with customizing.

I am still boggled how GTA scored a 10?

savebattery

I've seen better stories than GTA IV's written on the wall of bathroom stalls.

..because it's a video game

If you guys want stories read a f***in book. A good story should be a bonus, not a necessity. R.I.P Gamers.

Graphics > Story > Music > Box Art > Resolutions > Popularity >>>>>> Gameplay

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#26 g805ge
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="lvgaming"]

GTA had better storyline and gameplay compared to SR2, SR2 did a better job with customizing.

I am still boggled how GTA scored a 10?

ThePistolGod

I've seen better stories than GTA IV's written on the wall of bathroom stalls.

..because it's a video game

If you guys want stories read a f***in book. A good story should be a bonus, not a necessity. R.I.P Gamers.

Graphics > Story > Music > Box Art > Resolutions > Popularity >>>>>> Gameplay

GTA IV is presentation over gameplay.

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#27 mo0ksi
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It's becasue GTA4 is the better game. Hell I think it deserved the scores it got, and I played it long after the hype died off, on the rocky release of the PC version.
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#28 mD-
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Because GTA IV was a better game

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#29 jasonharris48
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Umm because it is the better game. GTA has the better gameplay, characters, story, graphics,etc. Heck the only sand box game similar to thee two titles that is better is GTA: SA.

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#30 aero250
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Saints row 2 was horrible just horrible thats why.
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#31 me_rock
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GTA IV was one of the greatest games this gen. Saints Row....just no.

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#32 FILIPINOMAZTER
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the godfather 2 pwnz them both
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#33 Toriko42
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I could say it, but I'm sure everyone else has. I'll say it anyway, GTA IV is a good game. SAints Row is not.
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#34 Doolz2024
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Because it was better? I dunno, it's pretty hard to argue that SR2 is better when GTA4 has a Metacritic avg. of 98, and SR2's avg. is 81...
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#35 AvIdGaMeR444
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Saints Row 2 was more fun. I don't understand all the defending with GTA IV, especially when just a few short months ago people were saying how terrible it is compared to other GTAs and were baffled by the 10 score. Just look at GTA IV. Yeah, the graphics are pretty. However, I think the music selection is one of the worst for a GTA game. The game was completely stripped down from San Andreas, and even has stuff lacking that Vice City had.

Saints Row 2 on the other hand expanded Saints Row's gameplay and world. They added more stuff to the game (fun stuff). What can I do in GTA IV? Go bowling and watch TV? No thanks. I'd rather do Fight Club, Septic Avenger, Mayhem, insurance fraud, drug trafficking side missions on SR2.

Saints Row 2 does look worse than GTA IV and has a lot of pop in. None of this affects the gameplay imo. In terms of framerate, it is bad in certain situations, but isn't too distracting. The missions themselves were a hell of a lot more fun in SR2 than GTA IV. The weapon variety is better too. There are more variety of cars, tons more customization. Oh, and the hidden things are much better in SR2. I'd rather find a tag and a hidden CD than shoot a flying rat and alerting the cops ALMOST EVERY SINGLE time I do so. Why do I need to run for my life when finding hidden things in GTA IV? That sucks.

What about when a cop takes you out of the car? You are instantly busted in GTA IV. No freedom whatsoever to try and run from the cops. You just give up. Not the case in SR2. The loading screens when loading a save file...at least I have a couple of images to watch in SR2 while waiting, unlike GTA IV. It is much more clear in SR2 which doors you can open than in GTA IV. The way points are more clear in SR2. It seems like I strain my eyes to see the green waypoint in GTA IV. The map screen is better in SR2 and easier to navigate and set way points. Bookmarks too. Human shields and throwing people add to the variety in SR2.

It seems clear that SR2 has a lot more stuff to do in the game world. Yeah, it has more pop in and uglier graphics. Do those negatives really make GTA IV, a game with far less to do, a better game?

And as far as the story goes, yeah GTA IV is more polished. But I like some of the characters more in SR2. Shaudi (spelling?) and Gat are cool.

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#36 II-FBIsniper-II
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I don't know why people think San Andreas=Old GTA's. :|
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#37 The_Game21x
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I don't know why people think San Andreas=Old GTA's. :|II-FBIsniper-II
You mean Saints Row? :P
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#38 linkin_guy109
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gta4 took the gta series to a whole other level instead of just having the game be about mindless violence, it put a conscience into the character, thats why it got better scores then saints row 2, and also it was the better game, imo.

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#39 nosedive7
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Because Rockstar didn't have to resort to using Terra Patrick to sell their game?

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#40 savebattery
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gta4 took the gta series to a whole other level instead of just having the game be about mindless violence, it put a conscience into the character

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That statement made me laugh. The storyline was just plain awful, and Niko had no conscience. He reminds me of Vic Vance from VCS. Acting apprehensive, but really a heartless, murderous monster in the end. And it didn't help that the other characters were either under developed or extremely irritating, and the voice acting was awful even by video game standards.
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#41 g805ge
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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

gta4 took the gta series to a whole other level instead of just having the game be about mindless violence, it put a conscience into the character

savebattery

That statement made me laugh. The storyline was just plain awful, and Niko had no conscience. He reminds me of Vic Vance from VCS. Acting apprehensive, but really a heartless, murderous monster in the end. And it didn't help that the other characters were either under developed or extremely irritating, and the voice acting was awful even by video game standards.

Saints Row 2 > GTA IV

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#42 Sonick54
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Like others have said, GTA4 is a much more polished game than saint's row too bad saint's row is more fun anyway :D
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#43 strudel420
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Saint's Row 2 is poop. I rented and returned it that same day because I wanted my money back.

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#44 II-FBIsniper-II
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Saint's Row 2 is poop. I rented and returned it that same day because I wanted my money back.

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I rented it and forced myself to do everything there was to do in co-op for the achievements. By the fifth day, I wanted to break the disc in half.
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#45 SPYDER0416
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Grand Theft Auto IV is boring and prententious crap! It strayed away from everything that made the GTA series great and gone for a more "realistic" approach, but its not as fun as the wacky and zany over the top gameplay of San Andreas. The story is bad too with annoying characters and a cliche script. However it was high ratings from critics to rival Ocarina of Time and the game isn't even worth a 7.

Saints Row 2 plays like the old GTA games and the game was AMAZINGLY fun! It's everything that made GTA great because of the wacky and over the top gameplay.

I guess they overrated GTA IV because of two things; bribe and hype!

g805ge

Maybe because most critics aren't 9 year olds and they enjoy things like "graphics" and "coherent stories"? Seriously, Saints Row 2 is pretty juvenile, fun, but it is nowhere near as good as GTA IV. Saints Row is like the Tony Hawks Pro Skater to GTA's skate. (although I REALLY loved THPS3, so this comparison is probably not a good one).

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#46 Rza_rectah
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saints row 2 is trash i hate it when people say its better than GTA 4.

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#47 Arjdagr8
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because gta4 is a way better game.
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#48 mocsun23
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GTA4 is TONs better then that wanna b game.

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#49 emorainbo
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To the ppl that complain about GTA's lack of side content, I would like to remind them that driving and shooting are the core gameplay of both games. GTA has much better core gameplay IMO, nevermind the fact that SR2 has so many weapons, it doenst really matter to me if they all feel the same, smae goes for the cars.

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#50 RoOodriGowW
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saints row 2 is trash i hate it when people say its better than GTA 4.

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Me too they aren't even in the same league.