How The Hell Did We Survive A Time Without Checkpoints?

yes, games are easier nowadays and hold your hand more, but i kinda like it that way..much less frustration and controller throwing-induced rampages. how the hell we ever play without checkpoints? im playing through some old games and theyre hard as hell! what? i have to restart the entire level when i die? what the hell man?!

this cant be life

yes, games are easier nowadays and hold your hand more, but i kinda like it that way..much less frustration and controller throwing-induced rampages. how the hell we ever play without checkpoints? im playing through some old games and theyre hard as hell! what? i have to restart the entire level when i die? what the hell man?!

this cant be life

black_chamber99

i like these..

god..soon it will be that the game plays itself and does everything perfectly so "YOU" cant lose.

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]yes, games are easier nowadays and hold your hand more, but i kinda like it that way..much less frustration and controller throwing-induced rampages. how the hell we ever play without checkpoints? im playing through some old games and theyre hard as hell! what? i have to restart the entire level when i die? what the hell man?! this cant be lifecampzor

checkpoints are for casuals

You get good at the game. That's how we beat it. mrmusicman247

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

Kinthalis

I agree with this post completely.:D

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

Kinthalis

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

gamer-adam1

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

gamer-adam1

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

gamer-adam1

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

gamer-adam1

Because they stem from the origin of arcade games. Console games adopted this model. PC gaming never had something like that and very, very few games used exclusively checkpoints. Almost every PC game will allow you to save at any time. Many PC games have both checkpoints and the ability to save at any time. Most console games do not allow yo to save your progress at any time. Checkpoints only is a very limitng feature, and its actually quite silly not to allow you to save your progress up to the last second and your command.

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

110million

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

so Left for Dead is heavily consolized? I believe zelda games you could save anywhere

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

As a PC gamer, I hate check points, but not for the reasons you may think.

Check points are a staple of console gaming, but I hate them because they are limiting. They tend to be irregular, sometimes they happen before tough fights, sometimes they don't. There's no way to know if I'm going to run into the next one 1 minute from now or 40 minutes from now.

Give me a full on save game system or give me death.

*I* will tell the game when I'm done playing it, not the other way around.

Now, auto saves when the game knows there's going to be a tough section ahead, or a tough section has been completed... sure I'm all for those.

But I hope check points die.

110million

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

But don't the games have both? The check points and the quick save?

There is a fine line between good challenge and bad challenge. I don't see how replaying the whole darn level when you die in Demons Souls is fun. That said, some games are way too easy and make it boring. Not to mention bad times to auto-save. lol I was playing ME1 not long ago (first time) on PC and I died and had to go about an hour back because I had not saved my game. I almost quit right there :P. Oh and BTW there are many older games that have checkpoints.

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

I don't undertand how checkpoints are a staple of console gaming?

gamer-adam1

so Left for Dead is heavily consolized? I believe zelda games you could save anywhere

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]You get good at the game. That's how we beat it. pppjjj

I hate check points, give me save anywhere quick saves.

checkpoints are for casuals

HaloinventedFPS

Patience and determination. Something gamers these days don't even know what they mean.foxhound_fox

Patience and determination. Something gamers these days don't even know what they mean.foxhound_fox

Patience and determination. Something gamers these days don't even know what they mean.foxhound_fox

I like checkpoints,but I hate it when devs remove manual save system for that *cough*crysis 2*cough*

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Patience and determination. Something gamers these days don't even know what they mean.locopatho

I never felt annoyed playing through something like Demon's Souls, since every death felt fair.

There is a satisfaction when you beat something that was a challange, that easy games do not have.

Because games back then were built around not having checkpoints simply put.

Imagine if Demon's Souls had checkpoints? An easy game would be even easier.
But at the same time, imagine if other games that use check points did not have them. Devs should add what suits their game's design the best.

The one and only thing plaguing this industry this gen are devs who feel they have to add X feature because they believe it is the standard, it can be anything from voice acting to regenerating health.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Patience and determination. Something gamers these days don't even know what they mean.110million

I want to be able to save when I want to, not when the game wants to. I don't mind auto saves, but at least give me the option to save when I want to. Heil68

Because games were made to be played, and beating them was not necessary. Now, games have stories and game mechanics are introduced late in the game. Also, games now are just better than they used to be.

Playing a game shouldn't be work. Hence the "playing" part. Patience and determination are great for achieving a worthy goal, videogames are just leisure time though. They should be fun not annoying.locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Playing a game shouldn't be work. Hence the "playing" part. Patience and determination are great for achieving a worthy goal, videogames are just leisure time though. They should be fun not annoying.foxhound_fox

Sure, I enjoy my instant gratification games too... but more often than not, I get bored of them really quickly, because they aren't making me work for my reward (either through time investment in unlocking things, or skill investment in achieving things).foxhound_fox

I remember when I rented Contra Hard Corps for my genesis for a week. We couldn't stop playing, every kid in the entire building were trying to finish the game 24/7. In the end of the seventh day my brother threw the cartridge on the wall and shattered it to pieces. We never returned the thing. Those were the days!

Quick save/load.

Thereal gamer days.