How to make a functional FPS on the Wii

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

Is it possible to have the nunchuk control movement like a kb and the wiimote to function like a mouse?PikaPichu

Yea.  In SSX you draw pictures on the screen while controlling with the motion sensing on the nunchuck.

they should use the d pad to help turndeadmeat59

they should use the d pad to help turndeadmeat59

I think a fixed Reticule would help the issueaxt113

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

Firelore29

This is EXACTLY what I have been saying for about a year now.

Most people don't seem to get it and no developers yet seem to have the common sense to have tried it...

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Flipnblack

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

freeload

This is EXACTLY what I have been saying for about a year now.

Most people don't seem to get it and no developers yet seem to have the common sense to have tried it...

Nunchuck analogue stick moves you forward, backward and strafes left and right.

Nunchuck tilt control is used to look up, down and turn left and right, by basically pointing it in the appropriate direction, like you would do with the Wiimote, except it uses the gyroscopes on the Nunchuck.

Rotate the Nunchuck clockwise and anti clockwise around the Z axis (or your wrist axis) to lean right and left.

Aim with the Wimmote.

Rotate the wimote around the Z axis to hold your gun John Woo style or whateva gansta way you like etc.

Fire with the B trigger.

Jump with the top trigger on the Nunchuck.

Duck with the bottom trigger on the Nunchuck.

Something like that but mainly moving the looking onto the Nunchucks' motion control so the aiming and firing can be done like a arcade style gun game on the Wiimote without affecting the turning.

[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Tylendal

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Flipnblack

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii. The major problem has to do with turning. When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control. It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple. You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly. Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction. The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating. I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem.

Simply put that is not going to work. I've got an idea though! OOOOOOK... Here's what they do. They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps. But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck! SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck. That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will. I really think that will work out. What do you all think?

Firelore29

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii. The major problem has to do with turning. When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control. It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple. You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly. Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction. The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating. I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem.

Simply put that is not going to work. I've got an idea though! OOOOOOK... Here's what they do. They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps. But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck! SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck. That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will. I really think that will work out. What do you all think?

peacebringer

Developers have already offered the fixed reticule, so it turns where you point and the cursor stays in the centre of the screen (see call of duty of whatever war game it was on Wii) and they have obviously tried the free aim reticule, where you can point around the screen a bit and also turn with the Wiimote (most FPS games on Wii) etc.

What they need to try is what this guy is suggesting and yes they also need to offer customisation options if it doesn't mess up their control set ups....

[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Tylendal

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

GunSmith1_basic

The Wii is capable of great FPS controls in my opinion but developers are just ******* numpties!

I think even Retro is gonna **** this one up.

If only someone would at least try the setup the guy above, and myself, have mentioned!

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

Firelore29

well until the Wii can actually release the best FPS, better than Halo, this will all just be heresay.Bread_or_Decide

well until the Wii can actually release the best FPS, better than Halo, this will all just be heresay.Bread_or_Decide

Simply move with analog, turn facing with nunchuck tilt, and aim and shhot with wiimote.

Spiderman 3 is already doing this, but it's a 3rd person game. You cange the camera by tilting the nunchuck and can press 1 to lock or unlock the camera. "Finally, the 1 button lets you lock the camera onto a target. When the camera isn't locked, you'll be able to rotate it around you by tilting the Nunchuk left or right."

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Bread_or_Decide

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii. The major problem has to do with turning. When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control. It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple. You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly. Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction. The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating. I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem.

Simply put that is not going to work. I've got an idea though! OOOOOOK... Here's what they do. They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps. But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck! SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck. That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will. I really think that will work out. What do you all think?

Firelore29

well until the Wii can actually release the best FPS, better than Halo, this will all just be heresay.Bread_or_Decide

This is why I think Halo is overrated.:|

Retro Studios has gotten the controls down with Metroid Prime 3.Hopefully,other developers will use the same control scheme.

Ok this is my take on it. Don't know what You guys think but i'd first try this:
d-pad = movement forward, backward, strafing.
pointing wii-mote = aiming on screen.
tilting wii-mote left/right = turning left/right.

No need for the nunchuk at all.

(You could of course replace d-pad functions with the nunchuks analogue stick for more comfortable movement.)

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

Firelore29

Vicious Cycle are working on a Wii FPS with that exact control scheme.

Here's a link- http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/08/vicious-engine-envisions-creative-wii-fps-controls/ 

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step 1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="axt113"]I think a fixed Reticule would help the issueShinobishyguy

How to make a fuctional FPS on the Wii.

Step  1: Cancel the game on the Wii

Step 2: Make it for the XBOX 360

Step 3: Release another Mario game on the Wii instead.

Bread_or_Decide

well until the Wii can actually release the best FPS, better than Halo, this will all just be heresay.Bread_or_Decide

maybe ninty could put another analog stick on the nunchuk \o/Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

anasbouzid

Are you talking about Alien Storm?

I know that uses a similar set up but it isnt really an FPS so I doubt most people would get how a similar set up would work well in FPS game although I think it would be far superior to what is currently being used.

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

Lets face it folks there are some serious issues making a FPS game on the Wii.  The major problem has to do with turning.  When your using the Wiimote to point and shoot and also to turn there are major problems keeping control.  It's near impossible to turn around fast and effectively so it simply seems impresise in the heat of battle.

The basic concept of the current FPS games on the Wii have been simple.  You have a certain box in the screen where if you move the Wiimote in that area you can aim effectivly.  Once you move out of that box and to a side of the screen the screen will turn that direction.  The problem is that it doesn't feel effective and it's amazingly frusterating.  I've played most every FPS game that has been released for the Wii and they ALL have the same problem. 

Simply put that is not going to work.  I've got an idea though!  OOOOOOK...  Here's what they do.  They use the directional controller on the nunchuck to control movement around like they do in every other fps.  But instead of using the Wiimote to determine where to look you use the motion sensing technology in the nunchuck!  SSX has already proven that precise motion detection can work with the nunchuck.  That leaves your Wiimote free to aim and shoot at will.  I really think that will work out.  What do you all think?

Harbadakus

Vicious Cycle are working on a Wii FPS with that exact control scheme.

Here's a link- http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/08/vicious-engine-envisions-creative-wii-fps-controls/ 

Well here is hoping they implement it properly because it is a far superior solution to what is currently being implemented and I would hate to see this better set up overlooked because one developer did a rush job and then people just assume it is not a good method for controlling FPS games on Wii...