how will sony copy 3ds ?

As long as Sony don't copy Nintendo's worthless software line-up I don't really care what they do.Elutheria

Nintendo's worthless line up? Did I miss something? You must be talking about the third party games no?

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Sorry, who's Koller?tomarlyn

Sony Computer Entertainment of America's Director of Hardware and Marketing. John Koller. He made some interesting remarks on the 3DS in an IGN interview..

Oh yes 3DS got 3D, Touch Screen and Acclerometer, and Sony can't get those techonogies to PSP since it would be ripoff.People.... market lives with ripoffs, without them we would stand in same place, it's hard to be inovative.

3d - On the new Sony Bravia TVs. I personally think its stupid on a handheld.

Touch screen gaming - *looks at Sony mobiles*

Accelormeter - *looks at sony mobiles*

They'll do something along the lines of ...

"Well, we've been working on 3D without glasses in a handheld since 1997, we just felt like it was appropriate to show the consumer when we were ready."

Why with a 4D handheld with the power of teh cell which can display games in 4D running at 1080p and 120 frames per second. (Actually, if it had the graphics of a PSP, that last part wouldn't be too hard with the cell :P)

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

1. Gamecube didn't come with dual analogs and in-house rumble without Sony to set the precedent. It goes both ways. Welcome to technology.

2. Wouldn't Sony have "copied" DS by now? It's been like 5 years.

3. Sony announced 3D support for the PS3 before the 3DS was announced, so technically we can't claim that Sony is "copying" 3D.

Half-Way

i seriously dont believe that, because nintendo would have included their OWN invention in their next controller, sony was simply quicker, because they copied the whole thing.

other then that, there is really not much to be said :)

3d - On the new Sony Bravia TVs. I personally think its stupid on a handheld.

Touch screen gaming - *looks at Sony mobiles*

Accelormeter - *looks at sony mobiles*

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

1. Gamecube didn't come with dual analogs and in-house rumble without Sony to set the precedent. It goes both ways. Welcome to technology.

2. Wouldn't Sony have "copied" DS by now? It's been like 5 years.

3. Sony announced 3D support for the PS3 before the 3DS was announced, so technically we can't claim that Sony is "copying" 3D.

i seriously dont believe that, because nintendo would have included their OWN invention in their next controller, sony was simply quicker, because they copied the whole thing.

other then that, there is really not much to be said :)

As we all know sony pretty much copies everyone els . So what do you think sony will steal from 3ds? i hear they might make a psp a phone series like iphone . so may be different .

dontshackzmii

Actually Sony has been demoing games in pseudo 3D for a while now, so it would be more of a case of Nintendo copying Sony than vice versa.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i seriously dont believe that, because nintendo would have included their OWN invention in their next controller, sony was simply quicker, because they copied the whole thing.

other then that, there is really not much to be said :)

Dibdibdobdobo

We're talking about dual analog and built-in rumble, which those have nothing to do with. Try again :|

Cool story.

We're talking about dual analog and built-in rumble, which those have nothing to do with. Try again :|

Skittles_McGee

The fact is that Nintendo were the first to standardize both an analog component on a console controller and rumble on a console, regardless of whether or not it was "built in" - Its the same thing as Move and the Wiimote with MotionPlus.

The Move controller is literally just the same as the Wiimote with MotionPlus in one unit. I would not be surprised to see the next Sony handheld carry over ideas from the DS and potentially from the 3DS.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Cool story.

We're talking about dual analog and built-in rumble, which those have nothing to do with. Try again :|

Haziqonfire

The fact is that Nintendo were the first to standardize both an analog component on a console controller and rumble on a console, regardless of whether or not it was "built in" - Its the same thing as Move and the Wiimote with MotionPlus.

The Move controller is literally just the same as the Wiimote with MotionPlus in one unit. I would not be surprised to see the next Sony handheld carry over ideas from the DS and potentially from the 3DS.

Where it was an optional add-on don't you think it is a bit of a stretch to call it standard?

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Cool story.

We're talking about dual analog and built-in rumble, which those have nothing to do with. Try again :|

Haziqonfire

The fact is that Nintendo were the first to standardize both an analog component on a console controller and rumble on a console, regardless of whether or not it was "built in" - Its the same thing as Move and the Wiimote with MotionPlus.

The Move controller is literally just the same as the Wiimote with MotionPlus in one unit. I would not be surprised to see the next Sony handheld carry over ideas from the DS and potentially from the 3DS.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Cool story.

We're talking about dual analog and built-in rumble, which those have nothing to do with. Try again :|

skektek

The fact is that Nintendo were the first to standardize both an analog component on a console controller and rumble on a console, regardless of whether or not it was "built in" - Its the same thing as Move and the Wiimote with MotionPlus.

The Move controller is literally just the same as the Wiimote with MotionPlus in one unit. I would not be surprised to see the next Sony handheld carry over ideas from the DS and potentially from the 3DS.

Where it was an optional add-on don't you think it is a bit of a stretch to call it standard?

So is Sony's Analogue controller and Rumble Controller which where not released untill 98 (rumble was 98)if i remember correctly which was several years after PSX and where not the stanard. Only several games utilized Ananlogue controllers and the only which i remember which had it as the standard set up rather than as a 2nd thought was ape escape!!

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

The fact is that Nintendo were the first to standardize both an analog component on a console controller and rumble on a console, regardless of whether or not it was "built in" - Its the same thing as Move and the Wiimote with MotionPlus.

The Move controller is literally just the same as the Wiimote with MotionPlus in one unit. I would not be surprised to see the next Sony handheld carry over ideas from the DS and potentially from the 3DS.

Where it was an optional add-on don't you think it is a bit of a stretch to call it standard?

i dont even see how this is even gonna work...3d with out the glasses? That ds is gonna cost an arm and a leg

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i seriously dont believe that, because nintendo would have included their OWN invention in their next controller, sony was simply quicker, because they copied the whole thing.

other then that, there is really not much to be said :)

Dibdibdobdobo

And then Sony put in 2 analogs as well as a rumble built into the controller. And lo and behold, the gamecube was built without "packs" and had two analog sticks. This is in contrast to the Dreamcast, which was built with rumble and memory packs in the controller just like the N64. Gamecube also copied the PS1's front-loading memory cards. The Saturn used a cartridge and the N64 used in controller memory packs. Nintendo chose to copy Sony's design again. Nintendo didn't have to release a gamecube controller with in house rumble and front loading memory cards. They could have just used their old method.

But they didn't. "Copying" goes both ways.

3DPSP... But they will have to type it first as the 4DPSP.

akbar13

Perhaps they will make a next gen PSP, it will have a touch screen (perhaps multitouch), and 3D.

[QUOTE="akbar13"]

3DPSP... But they will have to type it first as the 4DPSP.

AgentA-Mi6

No it's still pretty damn halarious. :P

[QUOTE="akbar13"]

3DPSP... But they will have to type it first as the 4DPSP.

AgentA-Mi6

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

.... The PSP and DS both have 4 models bro :P

Shirokishi_

Atleast the DS models actually have change!!!

A camera and bigger screens?

The PSP3D. Coming 2012. :P

Probably the same way Nintendo ""stole"" the idea of adding 3D functionality to their system's hardware. Wait sorry, because it's on a handheld, it is teh innovative.

I just feel like asking, how did Sony copy the DS in the past?

PSdual_wielder

Probably the same way Nintendo ""stole"" the idea of adding 3D functionality to their system's hardware. Wait sorry, because it's on a handheld, it is teh innovative.

SakusEnvoy

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] DS lite was by far the biggest improvement.nintendo-4life

As far as I know the lite only made it smaller. Was there anything else?

isint that more of an opinion. Also DS3 is adding anolog isint that copying the psp. I swear I hate when people think certain companies are innocent and never copy off eachother. Its complete bs.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Probably the same way Nintendo ""stole"" the idea of adding 3D functionality to their system's hardware. Wait sorry, because it's on a handheld, it is teh innovative.

GeneralButt

This one is from the 80's...

This one is from the 90's...

---

Here's a link with Satoru Iwata talking about Nintendo embedding 3D capability into the GameCube in case they wanted games that support stereo3D...

"Here's an interesting bit of trivia from Nintendo's financial results briefing. When asked for his opinion on 3D technology in games, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata stated that he felt 3D technology wasn't suited to multiplayer or family-oriented games, which is what Nintendo have been primarily focused on.

However, he went on to reveal that the idea of developing 3D games on a home console has been tossed around at Nintendo before, and that there were even measures taken to help realize it on the Gamecube if the need ever arose.

"In fact there have already been discussions for a possibility of a 3D video game for a long time," stated Iwata. "To tell you the truth, GameCube is secretly designed to load graphical circuits which display graphics for right and left eyes respectively, for a future possibility of realizing 3D gaming experience. So actually we have had interest on this technology, but I have some doubt about everyone needing glasses to play."

As final note, he added: "To wrap up, we have interests but are also aware that there are so many hurdles to overcome, thus we don't believe every kind of game will become 3D environment in no time.""

---

Just some random info.

Virtual boy was such a success :lol:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/30755

I could see Sony unveiling a new PSP/successor with touch screen.

p3anut

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

These threads are getting old fast, and lets hope Sony doesn't copy Nintendo's business model of releasing a different model ever year.

Ragnarok1051

.... The PSP and DS both have 4 models bro :P

the ds successor is a different handheld so that doesnt count as anything towards releasing a reinovation of another model...in other words psp=4 ds=4 they both did many different models of the same handheld sorry to burst your bubble man

Virtual boy was such a success :lol:

sayonara89

Virtual Boy Bio and sales:

"Though sales figures were less than expected, Nintendo has sold more than 16 million units of the Virtual Boy system in the United States and more than 40 million worldwide."

VGChartz Sony PS3 sales: 33.23 Million

---

Lol'ing won't change the fact that Ninty was doing 3D in the 80's and 90's.

Well, seeing as how sony unveiled 3D for ps3 first, we could even say nintendo is copying them, sony would just be putting their ps3 3d idea into their psp. See how that works?Roushrsh

1st off pc been had 3D,2nd the virtual boy and something from the 80's did 3D(even if virtual boy wasnt successful it still counts) and 3rd the 3DS DOES NOT need GLASSES...

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

As we all know sony pretty much copies everyone els . So what do you think sony will steal from 3ds? i hear they might make a psp a phone series like iphone . so may be different .

SolidTy

It's strange that Sony was pushing 3D at all those trade shows for the last few years, trying to lead gaming in that direction, and then the 3DS is mentioned...and now automatically Sony is going to copy Nintendo?

Why isn't Nintendo copying Sony, because the have their own spin on technology, they get a free pass? I still love my Sly Cooper on PS2 in 3D.

I wouldn't worry about who is copying who, as the more developers push 3D. the better the technology will improve.

you need to go a little farther back because the virtual boy and some thing from the 80's, and pc did 3D so if anything they are copying nintendo or one of the other 2 inventions i mentioned...and besides 3DS needs no glasses while the ps3 does

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

Virtual boy was such a success :lol:

gamecubepad

Virtual Boy Bio and sales:

"Though sales figures were less than expected, Nintendo has sold more than 16 million units of the Virtual Boy system in the United States and more than 40 million worldwide."

VGChartz Sony PS3 sales: 33.23 Million

---

Lol'ing won't change the fact that Ninty was doing 3D in the 80's and 90's.

wow ps3 cant sale better then the virtual boy thats really sad...

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

These threads are getting old fast, and lets hope Sony doesn't copy Nintendo's business model of releasing a different model ever year.

Ragnarok1051

.... The PSP and DS both have 4 models bro :P

once again that is happening to PSP too (PSP phone is rumored with PSP2 not far behind)

So Nintendo waited between 2006-2009 to put out another model after DS Lite, and just coz they waited til 2009,2010 to put out 3 models thats bad but sony isn't as bad coz they put out 1 every year at the same time? Sony put out new PSPs in 2007, 2008, 2009, and will probably in 2010

Infact yes PSP 2000 came out in 2008 and one year later, two more PSP models were out, the 3000 and the Go

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

Virtual boy was such a success :lol:

Mario1331

Virtual Boy Bio and sales:

"Though sales figures were less than expected, Nintendo has sold more than 16 million units of the Virtual Boy system in the United States and more than 40 million worldwide."

VGChartz Sony PS3 sales: 33.23 Million

---

Lol'ing won't change the fact that Ninty was doing 3D in the 80's and 90's.

wow ps3 cant sale better then the virtual boy thats really sad...

Xbox 360 (38.90) too, so? :lol:

[QUOTE="GeneralButt"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Probably the same way Nintendo ""stole"" the idea of adding 3D functionality to their system's hardware. Wait sorry, because it's on a handheld, it is teh innovative.

gamecubepad

This one is from the 80's...

This one is from the 90's...

---

Here's a link with Satoru Iwata talking about Nintendo embedding 3D capability into the GameCube in case they wanted games that support stereo3D...

"Here's an interesting bit of trivia from Nintendo's financial results briefing. When asked for his opinion on 3D technology in games, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata stated that he felt 3D technology wasn't suited to multiplayer or family-oriented games, which is what Nintendo have been primarily focused on.

However, he went on to reveal that the idea of developing 3D games on a home console has been tossed around at Nintendo before, and that there were even measures taken to help realize it on the if the need ever arose.

"In fact there have already been discussions for a possibility of a for a long time," stated Iwata. "To tell you the truth, GameCube is secretly designed to load graphical circuits which display graphics for right and left eyes respectively, for a future possibility of realizing 3D gaming experience. So actually we have had interest on this technology, but I have some doubt about everyone needing glasses to play."

As final note, he added: "To wrap up, we have interests but are also aware that there are so many hurdles to overcome, thus we don't believe every kind of game will become 3D environment in no time.""

---

Just some random info.