How will WiiU compete with xbox 360 when the 360 price point will be 199?

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#51 Elann2008
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It could cost twice as much and I wouldn't care. Day one mother f'in purchase? Who's with me? Where's the "LIKE" button? Tag this ****

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#52 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

People will buy it for the new gimmick, will probably reach 100.000.00 sales this time

Casual gamers care for the gimmick, nothing else, which means they will buy WiiU no matter what

Personally i will wait this time for a huge price drop before i get the next WiiU, WIi was a huge dissapointment in every way, i only have 3 games for it, it is laughable

loosingENDS

A guy with Kinect games in his sig talking about gimmicks.....what an idiot.

Kinect is the future of gaming, not a gimmick

So, who is the idiot now ? It is not my fault you have no idea what Kinect is

Kinect is a good piece of tech that will become very useful for something after it's more improved,etc,but that won't be gaming.In gaming,Kinect is nothing but a gimmick...

Traditional "button" controllers will never be replaced,they may make many "high tech" motion controllers,but none has the convinience of a standard controller that simply allows you to sit down,relax and enjoy your game...

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#53 Elann2008
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Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.ActionRemix
Yup. Hence, PC versions onwards will be gimped once again. But I don't give a hoot. I'll enjoy my HD Zelda and HD Mario. Finallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy! The ROCK has come back to Wii U!
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#54 dragonps
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Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.ActionRemix
MS are not foolish its likely they have looked at the WiiU and its hardware, I'm guessing they'll release something more powerful and the WiiU will be left behind.
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#55 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.dragonps
MS are not foolish its likely they have looked at the WiiU and its hardware, I'm guessing they'll release something more powerful and the WiiU will be left behind.

Wii U left behind? First time it will be HD. It will conquer. Trust me. Doubting Nintendo is liking doubting the economic downfall. Nintendo will prevail. Over and over again. Hand over your wallet. Handcuff yourself to a bed set.

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#56 dragonps
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[QUOTE="dragonps"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.Elann2008

MS are not foolish its likely they have looked at the WiiU and its hardware, I'm guessing they'll release something more powerful and the WiiU will be left behind.

Wii U left behind? First time it will be HD. It will conquer. Trust me. Doubting Nintendo is liking doubting the economic downfall. Nintendo will prevail. Over and over again. Hand over your wallet. Handcuff yourself to a bed set.

Ha ha I like that, nah Ninty need to do more than a HD Wii with a touch screen controller to seduce me ;)
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#57 LovePotionNo9
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It won't matter really. As soon as a new Mario platformer, Mario Kart, Zelda, etc. come out on it, sales will go through the roof. Also, if they make bundles with Mario, Kirby, or some cute puppy, and use super bright colors and have a picture of family and friends playing with the Wii U tablet and Wii motes in front of the living room TV, it'll be a big hit.
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#58 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="dragonps"] MS are not foolish its likely they have looked at the WiiU and its hardware, I'm guessing they'll release something more powerful and the WiiU will be left behind.dragonps

Wii U left behind? First time it will be HD. It will conquer. Trust me. Doubting Nintendo is liking doubting the economic downfall. Nintendo will prevail. Over and over again. Hand over your wallet. Handcuff yourself to a bed set.

Ha ha I like that, nah Ninty need to do more than a HD Wii with a touch screen controller to seduce me ;)

Damn, you're playing hard to get. Fluffy pink handcuffs won't do it this time? :(
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Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.ActionRemix

And you know this how ?

Since it will come far after WiiU, at rhe very least will be 10x more powerfull

If it has the usual price point of xbox at 400$ will be 20-30x more powerfull than WiiU or more

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#60 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.loosingENDS

And you know this how ?

Since it will come far after WiiU, at rhe very least will be 10x more powerfull

If it has the usual price point of xbox at 400$ will be 20-30x more powerfull than WiiU or more

It won't be 10x more powerful than the Wii-U but it will be more powerful overall.
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#61 loosingENDS
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Wii U left behind? First time it will be HD. It will conquer. Trust me. Doubting Nintendo is liking doubting the economic downfall. Nintendo will prevail. Over and over again. Hand over your wallet. Handcuff yourself to a bed set.

Elann2008

The problem of Wii was not just the graphics, it was the 3 good core games it had in 6 whole years

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#62 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Wii U left behind? First time it will be HD. It will conquer. Trust me. Doubting Nintendo is liking doubting the economic downfall. Nintendo will prevail. Over and over again. Hand over your wallet. Handcuff yourself to a bed set.

loosingENDS

The problem of Wii was not just the graphics, it was the 3 good core games it had in 6 whole years

Well, I hope Nintendo sticks around. I wouldn't be able to understand gaming without Nintendo. I grew up on that stuff. :D
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#63 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Wii U left behind? First time it will be HD. It will conquer. Trust me. Doubting Nintendo is liking doubting the economic downfall. Nintendo will prevail. Over and over again. Hand over your wallet. Handcuff yourself to a bed set.

Elann2008

The problem of Wii was not just the graphics, it was the 3 good core games it had in 6 whole years

Well, I hope Nintendo sticks around. I wouldn't be able to understand gaming without Nintendo. I grew up on that stuff. :D

Me too, but lately they have been rather dissapoiting

I cant say i liked Zleda SS as much as older Zeldas and did not like TP at all

They are in a big decline imo in every way

I would say many things are in decline though, like FF for example, still 360/PS3 get games like Dark Souls and Witcher 2 that do make a huge difference, while Wii stayed behind

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#64 casharmy
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.dragonps
MS are not foolish its likely they have looked at the WiiU and its hardware, I'm guessing they'll release something more powerful and the WiiU will be left behind.

just like this gen right?

I could say more but there is no point based on the fact that you even made that comment to begin with.

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#65 tjricardo089
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360: Cheaper but worst
Wii-U: More expensive but better

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#66 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.loosingENDS

And you know this how ?

Since it will come far after WiiU, at rhe very least will be 10x more powerfull

If it has the usual price point of xbox at 400$ will be 20-30x more powerfull than WiiU or more

Because they want to make money and neither Xbox has been profitable in the long term. They can hope to turn a significant profit if they double down on Kinect and sell a lot of cheap consoles with a compelling gimmick.
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#67 loosingENDS
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360: Cheaper but worst
Wii-U: More expensive but better

tjricardo089

And how is 360 worst exactly ?

When it will have a 100x bigger game library for the first 3 years of WiiU launch

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#68 joojtzu
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Because i own a 360.... How will ps3 compete though.... HEHE...
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#69 MonsieurX
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or maybe even lower price point for MS.... I really dont get the wiiu idea, its still last gen rather then next gen. What do you guys think.... Im assuming the wiiu will start out at 299..

loosingENDS

People will buy it for the new gimmick, will probably reach 100.000.00 sales this time

Casual gamers care for the gimmick, nothing else, which means they will buy WiiU no matter what

Personally i will wait this time for a huge price drop before i get the next WiiU, WIi was a huge dissapointment in every way, i only have 3 games for it, it is laughable

There are tons of good games on the wii.
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#70 Eponique
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Everyone already has an Xbox I doubt its sales will increase drastically. This is like asking how will with the Wii compete with the PS2 at launch if the PS2 is priced $130.
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#71 ionusX
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or maybe even lower price point for MS.... I really dont get the wiiu idea, its still last gen rather then next gen. What do you guys think.... Im assuming the wiiu will start out at 299..

ForzaGearsFace

starting XD.. it will probably be 100 bucks higher than that @ launch.. the touch screen controllers alone are worth 100 bucks.. @ 299 they would be losing money.

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I feel that the majority of Wii users will not upgrade to the WiiU. If the 360 and PS3 are and seem to be going quite strong in the "HD" market including a WiiHD isn't going to sell Nintendo's credentials on the matter. The 360 and PS3 offer greater value for money when the WiiU gets released and if they are just another cog in the gears of multi-platform games then those who own a PS3 and/or 360 aren't going to look at getting the console when the visuals will be almost the same.mike_on_mic

You're looking at this ALL wrong. Ninty is really marketing towards the casual gamer with the wii and wiiu dude. MANY wiiu users WON'T care about specs and how it compares to the hd twins or the future nextgen consoles. There are tons of wiiu users that just love the social aspect of the console. The people who play it at church gatherings, or guys night out, or poker night...these are the kind of people ninty is effectively marketing to now. Not the spec heads here...just saying.

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#73 ionusX
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[QUOTE="mike_on_mic"]I feel that the majority of Wii users will not upgrade to the WiiU. If the 360 and PS3 are and seem to be going quite strong in the "HD" market including a WiiHD isn't going to sell Nintendo's credentials on the matter. The 360 and PS3 offer greater value for money when the WiiU gets released and if they are just another cog in the gears of multi-platform games then those who own a PS3 and/or 360 aren't going to look at getting the console when the visuals will be almost the same.sayyy-gaa

You're looking at this ALL wrong. Ninty is really marketing towards the casual gamer with the wii and wiiu dude. MANY wiiu users WON'T care about specs and how it compares to the hd twins or the future nextgen consoles. There are tons of wiiu users that just love the social aspect of the console. The people who play it at church gatherings, or guys night out, or poker night...these are the kind of people ninty is effectively marketing to now. Not the spec heads here...just saying.

what is social about a game console with no socializing in it.. lol wtf? it has no chat system of any kind and therefore isnt even remotely social.

its just a trendy PoS you bouhgt there with nintendo's few saving graces left slathered on it so that you cant see the crap bursting from her seams

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still 360/PS3 get games like Dark Souls and Witcher 2 that do make a huge difference, while Wii stayed behind

loosingENDS

And Wii is still getting good exclusives like Xenoblade Chronicles or The Last Story.

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#75 BibiMaghoo
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Tc, it will be more powerful than the 360, and people are willing to pay more to get more. Its common sense really.... Oh, I forgot you dont have any.... Here we go, are you ready? DEAL WITH IT!!!!! lol
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#76 sayyy-gaa
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[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]

[QUOTE="mike_on_mic"]I feel that the majority of Wii users will not upgrade to the WiiU. If the 360 and PS3 are and seem to be going quite strong in the "HD" market including a WiiHD isn't going to sell Nintendo's credentials on the matter. The 360 and PS3 offer greater value for money when the WiiU gets released and if they are just another cog in the gears of multi-platform games then those who own a PS3 and/or 360 aren't going to look at getting the console when the visuals will be almost the same.ionusX

You're looking at this ALL wrong. Ninty is really marketing towards the casual gamer with the wii and wiiu dude. MANY wiiu users WON'T care about specs and how it compares to the hd twins or the future nextgen consoles. There are tons of wiiu users that just love the social aspect of the console. The people who play it at church gatherings, or guys night out, or poker night...these are the kind of people ninty is effectively marketing to now. Not the spec heads here...just saying.

what is social about a game console with no socializing in it.. lol wtf? it has no chat system of any kind and therefore isnt even remotely social.

its just a trendy PoS you bouhgt there with nintendo's few saving graces left slathered on it so that you cant see the crap bursting from her seams

You and I have a different definition for "social" my friend. You obviously take social to mean things like chat systems and online functionality. I take social to mean interacting in the flesh between human beings while playing video games. You know, going to a real live social gathering and gaming.This is the social draw of the Wii.

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The tablet controller will be seen as the evolution of the traditional controller and thus render the current systems outdated.

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#78 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]still 360/PS3 get games like Dark Souls and Witcher 2 that do make a huge difference, while Wii stayed behind

Miroku32

And Wii is still getting good exclusives like Xenoblade Chronicles or The Last Story.

There is a difference between good and all time classic

Also it gets them near the end of its life and are just two games, that are not even out yet in Europe

I wont even go to the graphics

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#79 loosingENDS
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The tablet controller will be seen as the evolution of the traditional controller and thus render the current systems outdated.

SuperFlakeman

The problem is that look so akward and a huge step back then current controllers

Imagine taking your eyes away from the game to look at the screen, it is a real disaster imo

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#80 GamingGod999
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]still 360/PS3 get games like Dark Souls and Witcher 2 that do make a huge difference, while Wii stayed behind

loosingENDS

And Wii is still getting good exclusives like Xenoblade Chronicles or The Last Story.

There is a difference between good and all time classic

Also it gets them near the end of its life and are just two games, that are not even out yet in Europe

I wont even go to the graphics

Xenoblade has been available throughout Europe since August 2011.
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]still 360/PS3 get games like Dark Souls and Witcher 2 that do make a huge difference, while Wii stayed behind

loosingENDS

And Wii is still getting good exclusives like Xenoblade Chronicles or The Last Story.

There is a difference between good and all time classic

Also it gets them near the end of its life and are just two games, that are not even out yet in Europe

I wont even go to the graphics

Xenoblade Chronicles is already out in Europe it's been out for a year in Europe and Gamespot awarded it Wii GOTY last year. The Last Story is about to release in Europe because many European publications already reviewed it.

Xenoblade Chronicles comes out in North America on April 6 and the Last Story releases in North America in the Summer.

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#82 Basinboy
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@TC

In the most obvious way: by being a superior console. I would think that thought would deter the need to create a thread to ask the question.

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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Because it IS a next gen console. The irony is the next Xbox will likely be quite underpowered.dragonps
MS are not foolish its likely they have looked at the WiiU and its hardware, I'm guessing they'll release something more powerful and the WiiU will be left behind.

Exactly. They're not foolish - which is why they won't repeat the mistake of releasing a powerful console. Instead they're going to release a joke console and make a killing. People don't buy consoles for their GPUs.
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#85 ShadowMoses900
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Okay just to get you to shut up TC

You are right, the 360 is the most powerful system EVER made!

Sony and Nintendo are doomed!

MS charges us to play online because they love us!

360 multiplats are WAY better than PS3 multiplats, there is a real difference, not a minimal one!

Except when it comes to 360 and PC multiplats, those differences are minimal and arn't even noticable at all, in fact the 360 version is always better because it runs at a lower framerate which preserves the cinematic experince of the games, unlike PC which destroys them!

PS3 Exclusives all suck, especially Uncharted, Indiana Jones genric rip off, unlike Halo and Gears which are about totally non genric non rip offs of space cyborgs shooting purple aliens or giant men shooting ground monsters!

Kinect is the best thing ever and totally not a gimmick at all, unlike every game Nintendo and Sony make!

Blu Ray is totally not the future console format at all, playing games on multiple discs that are easy to scratch is so much more fun! Except come next gen when the next Xbox has Blu Ray, then it's awesome!

There, can you sleep at night now? Can you please stop posting?

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[QUOTE="mike_on_mic"]I feel that the majority of Wii users will not upgrade to the WiiU. If the 360 and PS3 are and seem to be going quite strong in the "HD" market including a WiiHD isn't going to sell Nintendo's credentials on the matter. The 360 and PS3 offer greater value for money when the WiiU gets released and if they are just another cog in the gears of multi-platform games then those who own a PS3 and/or 360 aren't going to look at getting the console when the visuals will be almost the same.sayyy-gaa

You're looking at this ALL wrong. Ninty is really marketing towards the casual gamer with the wii and wiiu dude. MANY wiiu users WON'T care about specs and how it compares to the hd twins or the future nextgen consoles. There are tons of wiiu users that just love the social aspect of the console. The people who play it at church gatherings, or guys night out, or poker night...these are the kind of people ninty is effectively marketing to now. Not the spec heads here...just saying.

They seem to be focusing on trying to please all kinds of gamers with the Wii U. As far as drawing in many casuals and non-gamers again, I think it depends on if the Wii U gets one or more games which are huge system sellers like Wii Sports was for the Wii, otherwise it won't be the runaway success on the level the Wii was, even with all the marketing in the world. As of now, I agree with Mike's point, although of course there'll be some hardcore fans who will rush out and get a Wii U early on. But it will be interesting to see what they do with that controller.

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New systems usually don't compete much with the previous generation. The new shiny object is instantly more appealing.
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#89 arkephonic
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This thread is dumb as ****.

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#90 tubbyc
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This thread is dumb as ****.

arkephonic

But a thread about how the Wii U will obliterate the competition, even though it's not even fully revealed yet, and the other two aren't revealed at all yet, isn't dumb at all?

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#91 arkephonic
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This thread is dumb as ****.

tubbyc

But a thread about how the Wii U will obliterate the competition, even though it's not even fully revealed yet, and the other two aren't revealed at all yet, isn't dumb at all?

That thread would be dumb as ****.

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#92 tubbyc
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[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This thread is dumb as ****.

arkephonic

But a thread about how the Wii U will obliterate the competition, even though it's not even fully revealed yet, and the other two aren't revealed at all yet, isn't dumb at all?

That thread would be dumb as ****.

Well, you did make that "Nintendo will win the next generation in another landslide." topic, unless you're claiming the Wii U is fully revealed. Anyway, it's still too early to confidently make bold predictions.

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#93 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

But a thread about how the Wii U will obliterate the competition, even though it's not even fully revealed yet, and the other two aren't revealed at all yet, isn't dumb at all?

tubbyc

That thread would be dumb as ****.

Well, you did make that "Nintendo will win the next generation in another landslide." topic, unless you're claiming the Wii U is fully revealed. Anyway, it's still too early to confidently make bold predictions.

You mean this thread?

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#94 tubbyc
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Yes of course.

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#95 arkephonic
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Yes of course.

tubbyc

Yeah, that thread certainly was dumb as ****.

But, at least it had an ounce of thought put into it, rather than a ridiculous 1 liner as seen in the original post of this thread.

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#96 ForzaGearsFace
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Nah my thread is alot better