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#51 blueinheaven
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Well, Xbox One is a complete write off, total failure and Xbox One X is a 'point and laugh' comedy console waiting to happen, regardless of alleged sales figures.

People are actually paying $500 for a console with no exclusives AT ALL that will run AAA multiplats at 30fps. That junk CPU is going to kill this thing before it even gets started it will be as underwhelming as a mid gen upgrade as the PS4 Pro. And the clowns who pre-ordered it to replace their Xbox One will get a very distinct feeling of deja vu which is going to be absolutely hilarious to witness on here.

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#52 Primorandomguy
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@blueinheaven: LMAO your meltdowns are hilarious. You get so mad, and take this so seriously. Chill.

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#53 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: Sorry I hurt you're feelings, it's the cold hearted truth.

Did you know MS actually scrap Lionheads original ideas for an actual Fable 4 but MS told them to scrap it for Fable Legends? Or the fact that MS cannot invest new IP games? The system wouldn't be so bad if it had more variety of IP exclusive games.

I'll let you think about that my console playing Friend :)

That fact that you think you hurt my feelings is so funny to me lol.

Yeah MS has scrapped some games I've never denied that, and I was looking forward to Scalebound and was annoyed when MS cancelled it, but don't be an idiot and think it was scrapped because MS didn't like it, that's just your way of blaming MS because truth be told no one other than Platinum & MS know what happened.

As for Fable well I don't know what happened there could you link me an article please?

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#54 LJS9502_basic
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@BigBadBully said:

Just keep making xbox live the go to place for multiplayer/co-op gaming. Stay with your bread and butter which is multiplayer and co-op. Keep looking at ways to enhance games like cloud computing. Get more third party support for pc/xbox play anywhere titles as well as first party(no care for xbox only). Maybe once in a blue moon make a singleplayer game.

Except that only requires a PC............

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#55 BigBadBully
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@LJS9502_basic: Yeah i get PC does it all but a good majority of gamers dont prefer to game on PC, like myself. I feel MS will do better focusing on both xbox and pc.

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#56 masonshoemocker
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I think they're doing fine. Maybe get some more first party developers on board. I've always seen Xbox as the FPS & Driving console and the go-to for multiplayer. This hasn't changed ever since they came out with the OG Xbox. People keep screaming out they need exclusives and more Japanese games but the top selling games are always third party and at least in the US, Xbox does pretty darn good against the PS.

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#57  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@masonshoemocker said:

I think they're doing fine. Maybe get some more first party developers on board. I've always seen Xbox as the FPS & Driving console and the go-to for multiplayer. This hasn't changed ever since they came out with the OG Xbox. People keep screaming out they need exclusives and more Japanese games but the top selling games are always third party and at least in the US, Xbox does pretty darn good against the PS.

Actually the first Xbox did have more variety......

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#58  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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Oh wow, where to begin. Well day one would be scouring patents for anything that looks like it could apply to bringing the precision, ergonomics and responsiveness of mouse to lazy arsed sofa gamers. (Sure there's the Steam controller, but trackpads are always terrible for gaming.) That would sort out a ton of PC crossplay headaches and make XBox the only real choice for console shooters. Then I'd acquire PUBG dev's soul, drop microtransactions from XBox version and subsidise it with a crappy, late microtransaction-riddled version for PS4 owners, where they can get destroyed by sofamouse gamers.

Day two...

I have no idea how the industry really works. It's a black box that spits out products and PR, AFAIC.

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#59 NathanDrakeSwag
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@masonshoemocker said:

I think they're doing fine. Maybe get some more first party developers on board. I've always seen Xbox as the FPS & Driving console and the go-to for multiplayer. This hasn't changed ever since they came out with the OG Xbox. People keep screaming out they need exclusives and more Japanese games but the top selling games are always third party and at least in the US, Xbox does pretty darn good against the PS.

Actually the first Xbox did have more variety......

Yeah it did. Their first party has gotten worse each gen.

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@i_p_daily said:

That fact that you think you hurt my feelings is so funny to me lol.

Yeah MS has scrapped some games I've never denied that, and I was looking forward to Scalebound and was annoyed when MS cancelled it, but don't be an idiot and think it was scrapped because MS didn't like it, that's just your way of blaming MS because truth be told no one other than Platinum & MS know what happened.

As for Fable well I don't know what happened there could you link me an article please?

Sure thing. Here's the link to: Lionhead wanted to make a “darker and grittier” Fable 4 instead of $75M Fable Legends and to be frank, Lionhead knew the fans wanted a true sequel and not a MP game only.

Look I get that you like MS, I'm cool with them for the most parts but when not just MS, but the big 3 tends to screw up, your gonna get tough love from me! Just like I gave tough love for Nintendo's idiotic handling Wii U.

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#62 PimpHand_Gamer
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@pimphand_gamer said:

Are you guys brainwashed? Exclusives are not good for consumers period. Maybe you'd also like to have your Mp3 music collection only playable on an iPhone? Maybe you'd like to live in North Korea and be forced to play on what they want you to?...Because that's exactly what you are saying with this ideology. Sharing IP's with Windows is also a win win for Microsoft as well and more of a win for consumers by giving them a choice. If you choose PC, MS isn't out anything if you consider how much their company brings in as a whole but the reality is that X1X will continue to sell just as well as it otherwise would have because it's simpler and cheaper.

Having a choice on your hardware platform is huge. Maybe you guys are afraid to think about choices, so much for moving out of your mom's house right?

If an MP3 service created it's own music then absolutely it should be exclusive. Consumers have a choice. No one forces them to buy anything. Exclusives tend to be done by first party developers. The days of the NES with strict control and total ownership of third party games are over. Developers should also have a choice who they want to do business with. They may have a great relationship with one and choose to support them. They may have a bad experience with one and choose not to work for that company.

Thanks for this box of sorry excuses to justify your desire to see games be made limited to only one system.

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#63 lrdfancypants
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Include a free Nintendo Switch with every purchase.

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#64 No_bo_dy_83
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Xbox need to be saved?

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#65 omegaMaster
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Sell it off to Sega :D

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@davillain-: After reading that it seems both parties had shit ideas for the series, maybe it was better to shelve the series because i had no intentions of playing Fable Legends.

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#67  Edited By Shewgenja
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I would pee all up in Sony's Cheerios by announcing a AAAA XBox exclusive right after or the week of PS Experience. Activate the ape-shit Scorpio-zord and bang a gong the size of Jupiter.

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#68 Sam3231
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@no_bo_dy_83 said:

Xbox need to be saved?

I know right, what the HELL are these people on about?

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#69 PinchySkree
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Make it just the name of Microsoft manuafactured closed system PCs.

A child proof operating system running on x86 windows.

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#70  Edited By snapcrackleNpop
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I think Sony needs the saving actually ... After ps4 its just been hardware flop after flop (PSVR PS4Noob)

I think Sony is missing the boat here with its exclusives as they are just a bunch of 6hr story games with NO MP in 2017 ... todays standards that is only half a game

Backwards compat gonna bite them in the ass and their PSN Plus Subs are less then half of the fanbase

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#71  Edited By AzatiS
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1) I would make many deals with developers to provide way better graphically games than PRO on same multiplatform games to base my marketing on that even further. I wouldnt let developer just decide, i would force them to do so with deals under the table to let people know and see that X1X is way stronger and the graphic differences are not just a joke so i could give X1X a media/community momentum.

2) Then i would pay various big Youtube channels and media to make more and more detailed head 2 head comparisons between Pro and X1X on same games to further push those graphical differences in consumers minds and keep the buzz/talks even further as X1X being the best.

3) Since i wouldnt be able to take back all these services for PC and stop support just to save X1X i would focus on TIME EXCLUSIVES. What does that mean ? That X1X users would be able to play the best MS exclusives first for quite some time before PC release. 3 to 6 months depends the title in order to make X1X even more appealing to consumers but at the same time to not let down PC fans by waiting too much.

4) I would pay some serious studios to make games that will have an appeal to both console and PC users aside Shooters and Racing games. Just to fill the gap in genres X1X missing with some serious games and ofc first on X1X as time exclusives.

5) A huge price drop -100$ in holidays after all that and voila.

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#72  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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A variety of exclusives! This one is a no brainer.

Xbox started going downhill towards the end of the 360 life cycle.

While services are nice, you have to be the only place to go to have certain experiences.

The OG Xbox had a great line of exclusives, it was just too new to make a huge impact.

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#73 GameboyTroy
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@omegamaster said:

Sell it off to Sega :D

That would be interesting. :)

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#74 mark1974
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To a fanboy it doesn't need fixing. Halo, Gears, Forza is all the games anyone needs and it's more important what is not there. Japanese games and indies are the devil. Keep Xbox pure. Sports games, driving games, shooters. Multiplayer games. Single player games aren't needed I guess. Competitive multiplayer is what video games are to an Xbox fanboy and all other genres are stupid.

That's my cynical take but it can't be quite that bad can it?

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#75  Edited By QuadKnight
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@snapcracklenpop said:

I think Sony needs the saving actually ... After ps4 its just been hardware flop after flop (PSVR PS4Noob)

I think Sony is missing the boat here with its exclusives as they are just a bunch of 6hr story games with NO MP in 2017 ... todays standards that is only half a game

Backwards compat gonna bite them in the ass and their PSN Plus Subs are less then half of the fanbase

Lems are the most delusional fanboys on SW. Only a lem could actually post something like this and be serious.

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#76 PopGotcha
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It will never happen, but scrap the Pay2Play online fee, with the option of still paying for Gold (free games, maybe Xbox Game Access thrown in?)

First party, console only exclusives. Give people a genuine reason to buy the console.

Its not RED BUTTON EMERGENCY time yet. They are still moving consoles and keeping users happy. But if they go Free2Play online, I'd never use the PS4 again outside of exclusives

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First I'd rest the 3 pillars (Halo, Gears & Forza) for a few years while allowing 343/Coalition/Turn 10 to split into 2 teams each and experiment on new IP ideas. They can continue to work on the pillars in the background but given them more time.

Next I'd invest in some new worldwide studios with fresh ideas and give them the freedom to try new things. Not everything has to be AAA either, just add variety.

Seek out key 3rd Party partnerships.

Market the hell out of the system/brand in every market. You hear of all these things they do in the US but we don't see anything here in NZ and I'm sure its very similar in many other countries. Here Playstation is the defacto gaming brand when non gamers ask about games, just like the Nintendo was back in the 80's & 90's.

As part of that marketing, sing the virtues of the awesome ecosystem. No one outside of gamers have any idea about Game Pass or EA Access which is so stupid. Both of these would be huge for casual gamers if they knew about them.

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#78  Edited By omegaMaster
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@GameboyTroy said:
@omegamaster said:

Sell it off to Sega :D

That would be interesting. :)

Sega would then launch a new console called Sega Dreamcast X or Xbox Dreamcast One, and rebrand some Microsoft exclusives to improve sales in Japan. Watch your back Sony and Nintendo! Then, a few years down the line Sega will become the dominant force in the console market with Sonic taking over the throne and kicking Mario off the cliff >:D (Being a bit adventurous here...)

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#79 TuMekeNZ
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@omegamaster said:
@GameboyTroy said:
@omegamaster said:

Sell it off to Sega :D

That would be interesting. :)

Sega would then launch a new console called Sega Dreamcast X or Xbox Dreamcast One, and rebrand some Microsoft exclusives to improve sales in Japan. Watch your back Sony and Nintendo! Then, a few years down the line Sega will become the dominant force in the console market with Sonic taking over the throne and kicking Mario off the cliff >:D (Being a bit adventurous here...)

If Sega released a new console I would be there day 1!! Imagine what modern day Blast Processing could do lol

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@tumekenz said:
@omegamaster said:
@GameboyTroy said:
@omegamaster said:

Sell it off to Sega :D

That would be interesting. :)

Sega would then launch a new console called Sega Dreamcast X or Xbox Dreamcast One, and rebrand some Microsoft exclusives to improve sales in Japan. Watch your back Sony and Nintendo! Then, a few years down the line Sega will become the dominant force in the console market with Sonic taking over the throne and kicking Mario off the cliff >:D (Being a bit adventurous here...)

If Sega released a new console I would be there day 1!! Imagine what modern day Blast Processing could do lol

Sega would put a good CPU in their console if they made a one.

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@davillain- said:
@quadknight said:

Some quality exclusives would be a great start.

Also variety in exclusives could help them out. Too many shooting and driving games. They need more types of games preferably some Japanese games because Japan is killing it right now. They also need quality SP games like Uncharted, Horizon, etc.

Too bad MS is too stupid and stubborn to do this and lems are foolishly cheering them on. It would have been nice to have MS actually care about games and being competitive with Sony. The competition would have been awesome but I guess MS prefers to get rekt all gen and leave the market to Sony and Nintendo.

Didn't you know, MS hates releasing guaranteed masterpieces. No wonder why they scrap Scalebound, a new IP game that they didn't like!

I get angry at Xbox fanboys that say all Xbox needs is Halo, Gears, and Forza when don't seem to realize the revelance of those games is dying. Naughty Dog was smart enough to make Last Of Us while they were working on their final Uncharted games. Something fresh for gamers to look forward to while ending the Uncharted series, you could see God of War was taking a decline despite being a major PS exclusive and now it is being revamped/rebooted into a style different from previous games and an actual story that doesn't make Kratos look like a complete asshole.

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#83  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@primorandomguy said:

@Vatusus: Oh shut up. God you're annoying.

Nope. I make a living out of annoying idiots

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#84  Edited By Shewgenja
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ITT:

Every lem who has ever said the XBone is doing fine reiterates the party line. Microsoft continues trying to find ways to save it including launching the Scorpio.

...still no actual exclusives.

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#85  Edited By PinkAnimal
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I would change the focus group of the console. It is clear to me now that the xbox fans are contributing to the brand's demise by being extremely complacent and not questioning anything that comes from MS, like lemmings. It's almost like watching how a religious cult implodes out of pure delusional recursive feedback.

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#86 brimmul777
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To be the first to have E.T. 2. Jk.

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#87 me2002
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General consensus seems to be exclusives and variety, some thinks Japanese support and single player games, and of course lemmings think it's doing fine...

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#88 omegaMaster
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@GameboyTroy said:
@tumekenz said:
@omegamaster said:
@GameboyTroy said:
@omegamaster said:

Sell it off to Sega :D

That would be interesting. :)

Sega would then launch a new console called Sega Dreamcast X or Xbox Dreamcast One, and rebrand some Microsoft exclusives to improve sales in Japan. Watch your back Sony and Nintendo! Then, a few years down the line Sega will become the dominant force in the console market with Sonic taking over the throne and kicking Mario off the cliff >:D (Being a bit adventurous here...)

If Sega released a new console I would be there day 1!! Imagine what modern day Blast Processing could do lol

Sega would put a good CPU in their console if they made a one.

Indeed. This would send shockwaves around the world! Honestly think a new Sega console would sell as long it's managed by the right people.