I Admit Xbox Live Is Wack!!! 56K Death!!

I mean, its only .14 cent a day, its obvious I cant afford that. Live, you have to pay for M$ to countinue to provide superior service and maintenace for the servers. Every single game on 360 has some sort of online fuction, whether it be leaderboards or online play, same cant be said for PS3. P2P will ALWAYS mean that a game plays online even years later. Dedicated servers only last but so long.... Then there is live arcade. I mean, who the hell does M$ think they are to allow you to play old skool games like SF II, Streets Of Rage 2 and Double Dragon ONLINE Co op.

Lets start with Double Dragon... The NON HD Version..

Now the HD Version.

How about we examine Rush N Attack. The NON HD version...

And now thw HD version.

Did somebody say something about Street Fighter II?
But its not online!!!Ooopss!

How about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the Arcade game?

But you have to pay $50 a year!!

So how many arcade games are available for Live?

At the time of this post..... 89.

What about Game Demos?! Surely Live can do that?!!

What about game videos?

TV Movies??!!

In closing......

PSN is an experiment gone wrong compared to Xbox Live. :shock:

Plus XBL is great for events like E3,ComicCon, or others like them. Always tons of downloadable stuff from shows.Eltroz

which you paid for. u get what u paid for.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Plus XBL is great for events like E3,ComicCon, or others like them. Always tons of downloadable stuff from shows.ff7isnumbaone

which you paid for. u get what u paid for.

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Plus XBL is great for events like E3,ComicCon, or others like them. Always tons of downloadable stuff from shows.Eltroz

which you paid for. u get what u paid for.

Didnt they just get like 4 videos or game demos all in one week!! teh PSN is teh xplode!! :shock:

Good post..

I'm sure Sony will continue to improve though also.. which is great, because competition leads to even more improvement.

Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.myke2010

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.Magical_Zebra

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Don't forget you are posting on gamespot. I quickly learned that us with jobs and over the age of 18 are very very rare here

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.DoctorBunny

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Don't forget you are posting on gamespot. I quickly learned that us with jobs and over the age of 18 are very very rare here

Yay I am part of the minority!

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.Magical_Zebra

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Plus XBL is great for events like E3,ComicCon, or others like them. Always tons of downloadable stuff from shows.ff7isnumbaone

which you paid for. u get what u paid for.

Um, no. All the E3, COmicon, and TGS stuff is free with Silver.

You get more content on gold... plus you get multiplayer, which from my experience, has much less lag then psn.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.DoctorBunny

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Don't forget you are posting on gamespot. I quickly learned that us with jobs and over the age of 18 are very very rare here

Ok ok. I thought it was just me. I guess $50 for a year is waay to expensive considering your cable bill per month or the amount you spend at McDonalds in a year.... :shock:

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Plus XBL is great for events like E3,ComicCon, or others like them. Always tons of downloadable stuff from shows.ff7isnumbaone

which you paid for. u get what u paid for.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.myke2010

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Dude, dont throw numbers at me. With me and my fiances salary we do extremely well and she makes more than me. The service that M$ provides is excellent compared to what you get. Hell I feel $50 a year is a rip off. Almost as If im getting over on MS. Its funny you bring up where is the $50 going? I have a hdtv and guess what? I cant look at the damn thing unless I pay for cable or direct tv. But Im paying to use something that I bought. Is cable free? Maybe where you are, not where I am... :shock:

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.Magical_Zebra

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Don't forget you are posting on gamespot. I quickly learned that us with jobs and over the age of 18 are very very rare here

Ok ok. I thought it was just me. I guess $50 for a year is waay to expensive considering your cable bill per month or the amount you spend at McDonalds in a year.... :shock:

I wasn't talking about myself. I actually don't eat any fast food myself. I actually have about $50 in spare change every 3 months. I've had live since xbox live beta 1st round. I still have revolt for live. if only it worked

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.myke2010

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Agreed. It was also on principle that I stopped XBL after the first month because I could already game for free on my pc. I mean...really now...the console equivilent should at least match the pc service if it's free. If I have to pay for it, M$ better start giving me reasons to shell out.

P2P? Please. From my experience I get no lag to PSN servers (which is what I would expect with a PAID service).

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.DoctorBunny

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Don't forget you are posting on gamespot. I quickly learned that us with jobs and over the age of 18 are very very rare here

Ok ok. I thought it was just me. I guess $50 for a year is waay to expensive considering your cable bill per month or the amount you spend at McDonalds in a year.... :shock:

I wasn't talking about myself. I actually don't eat any fast food myself. I actually have about $50 in spare change every 3 months. I've had live since xbox live beta 1st round. I still have revolt for live. if only it worked

I was agreeing with you. I just used your quote to further my point... ;)

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.Laxe84

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Agreed. It was also on principle that I stopped XBL after the first month because I could already game for free on my pc.

Your reply FAILS right there. Do you not pay for an ISP? Your saying your internet connection is free? If not, then you sir are paying to use your computer .... :shock:

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.Laxe84

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Agreed. It was also on principle that I stopped XBL after the first month because I could already game for free on my pc. I mean...really now...the console equivilent should at least match the pc service if it's free. If I have to pay for it, M$ better start giving me reasons to shell out.

P2P? Please. From my experience I get no lag to PSN servers (which is what I would expect with a PAID service).

Exactly. It's not the price, it's the principle of it. $50 for P2P servers is ridiculous. With my experience with XBL, sometimes I get lag and sometimes I don't, depending on the hosts connections.

I have had no lag from PSN and it's free. Dedicated servers > P2P servers

Everyone in the world doesn't have access to a gaming pc rig that is capable of running games in even the max or matched settings of a gaming console. So let's not include that in this conversation.

$50 is too much? You're not getting your money's worth? I understand when you say we're basically paying MS to use our own internet but that's not the main pull there. Do you know how much time they've invested into XBOX LIVE itself? The networking and all that other computer jargon so we would be able to even access this content in the first place? How much money do you think they spent on getting the XBOX LIVE system to run properly all the way back to the original XBOX in 2001?

I'm betting that they spent way more than $50 dollars a year, but if I use that arguement you can say that Sony probably invested the same amount of money and the same amount of time, too, but they don't charge.

Microsoft knows it can get away with charging the $50 a year. It's not too much to the point that everyone complains. It's just right. In today's world, everything costs a little bit of money. I'm very surprised SONY doesn't charge, but I'm thinking one reason they don't charge is that they can easily pick up and gain more uses on their PSN by not charging. They could and would charge if it came down to it.

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.Magical_Zebra

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Dude, dont throw numbers at me. With me and my fiances salary we do extremely well and she makes more than me. The service that M$ provides is excellent compared to what you get. Hell I feel $50 a year is a rip off. Almost as If im getting over on MS. Its funny you bring up where is the $50 going? I have a hdtv and guess what? I cant look at the damn thing unless I pay for cable or direct tv. But Im paying to use something that I bought. Is cable free? Maybe where you are, not where I am... :shock:

[QUOTE="Laxe84"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.BioShockOwnz

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Agreed. It was also on principle that I stopped XBL after the first month because I could already game for free on my pc. I mean...really now...the console equivilent should at least match the pc service if it's free. If I have to pay for it, M$ better start giving me reasons to shell out.

P2P? Please. From my experience I get no lag to PSN servers (which is what I would expect with a PAID service).

Exactly. It's not the price, it's the principle of it. $50 for P2P servers is ridiculous. With my experience with XBL, sometimes I get lag and sometimes I don't, depending on the hosts connections.

I have had no lag from PSN and it's free. Dedicated servers > P2P servers

Um Bio? I could argue the same point. I have never experienced lag with live and no matter how much time passes all games will be supported by live. Cant say the same for those dedicated servers. Eternal Support (Live) > Timed Support (Dedicated Servers) :shock:

[QUOTE="Laxe84"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Magical_Zebra

Your reply FAILS right there. Do you not pay for an ISP? Your saying your internet connection is free? If not, then you sir are paying to use your computer .... :shock:

Um, sure you pay for your cable or dsl, but that's all. You don't actually pay for shoddy PSP servers. With XBL, you pay for both. It doesn't matter how cheap it is, it's a scam. They should offer more to XBL Goldmembers than they currently do. Silver members get mainly everything the same day. MS needs to start offering dedicated servers if they want to charge for their service or lack thereof.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Laxe84"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Magical_Zebra

Um Bio? I could argue the same point. I have never experienced lag with live and no matter how much time passes all games will be supported by live. Cant say the same for those dedicated servers. Eternal Support (Live) > Timed Support (Dedicated Servers) :shock:

Sorry bro, I can't believe that.

Btw, all 1st party PS2 online titles are still up and running online. R&C, Socom, and so on. The only company who has pulled out in the past is Konami. I have no worry. I'm still playing 4 year old PS2 games online.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Yes, XBL has some nice stuff on it, but you are missing the two most important points against it. 1. Other then online MP, Silver members get all that stuff for free. 2. Since MP is hosted P2P and you must pay seperately for your internet connection, you are basically paying MS for the privelage of using your own stuff. Yes, XBL is awesome, but still, $50 is too much for what you are getting.myke2010

I have a job. I can afford .14 cent a day for the service that M$ provides.... :shock:

Dude, dont throw numbers at me. With me and my fiances salary we do extremely well and she makes more than me. The service that M$ provides is excellent compared to what you get. Hell I feel $50 a year is a rip off. Almost as If im getting over on MS. Its funny you bring up where is the $50 going? I have a hdtv and guess what? I cant look at the damn thing unless I pay for cable or direct tv. But Im paying to use something that I bought. Is cable free? Maybe where you are, not where I am... :shock:

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

So why doesn't MS make Xbox Live free since it's P2P? It's not like they have servers to maintain. If it's so cheap, and MS makes $14 billion a year, why can't they afford to make it free? Like you said, it's only 14 cents a day. Chump change for MS to provide free online for the 10 million Xbox 360 users.Zhengi

Not to mention all the damn advertisements that should be paying for the experience. I get on Gold and I see advertisements for McDonald's everywhere. :|

I usually support MS, but making people pay for P2P servers really strikes a chord with me and somewhat angers me that they would charge their fans for such a thing.

XBL is the future of online console gaming

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

Magical_Zebra

You don't own your cable lines or cable programming.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Laxe84"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

BioShockOwnz

Um Bio? I could argue the same point. I have never experienced lag with live and no matter how much time passes all games will be supported by live. Cant say the same for those dedicated servers. Eternal Support (Live) > Timed Support (Dedicated Servers) :shock:

Sorry bro, I can't believe that.

Btw, all 1st party PS2 online titles are still up and running online. R&C, Socom, and so on. The only company who has pulled out in the past is Konami. I have no worry. I'm still playing 4 year old PS2 games online.

Um Bio, I dont need to prove anything to you or anybody else on this forum. You dont believe me? Thats your god given right. I experience more lag on my PC playing BF2 or Everquest. When I play Gears, I play co op. Very rarely do I play the 4 on 4 matches. R6V, Chromehounds, so again, what lag am I experienceing since Im lying? :shock:

The worst lag I've had on XBOX LIVE is Gears of War and DOA4. I expected to have bad lag with SF2 Turbo but for the most part it runs very smooth. The HALO3 beta worked very well 90% of the time. PD:0 worked well most of the time. Whatever Insomniac did for R:FOM was awesome though because there was hardly any lag even with the 20 vs 20. I would see a little bit of lag jumping here and there but it was miniscule. MS should be offering that kind of service when they charge a premium.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Laxe84"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Magical_Zebra

Um Bio? I could argue the same point. I have never experienced lag with live and no matter how much time passes all games will be supported by live. Cant say the same for those dedicated servers. Eternal Support (Live) > Timed Support (Dedicated Servers) :shock:

Sorry bro, I can't believe that.

Btw, all 1st party PS2 online titles are still up and running online. R&C, Socom, and so on. The only company who has pulled out in the past is Konami. I have no worry. I'm still playing 4 year old PS2 games online.

Um Bio, I dont need to prove anything to you or anybody else on this forum. You dont believe me? Thats your god given right. I experience more lag on my PC playing BF2 or Everquest. When I play Gears, I play co op. Very rarely do I play the 4 on 4 matches. R6V, Chromehounds, so again, what lag am I experienceing since Im lying? :shock:

You've never joined a match with a host that doesn't have a great connection? That's quite amazing. You must not play much online or something. I just can't see you never experiencing lag over XBL. I've experienced it time and time again depending on the hosts connection, so my buds and I started playing together and I host the games now, so we don't get lag.

No matter if you get lag or not. Paying for P2P servers is absolutely ridiculous to begin with. It's not the price, it's the principle of it. All those ads that pop up over XBL should pay for the experience. Even though there isn't really anything to pay for since they don't have to pay to keep servers up.

So why doesn't MS make Xbox Live free since it's P2P? It's not like they have servers to maintain. If it's so cheap, and MS makes $14 billion a year, why can't they afford to make it free? Like you said, it's only 14 cents a day. Chump change for MS to provide free online for the 10 million Xbox 360 users.Zhengi

According to Major Douchebag (Nelson) the $50 fee goes toward bandwidth costs. You would think with all that money going toward bandwidth, the Xbots would be able to downlaod that Bioshock demo back in August faster than the fours hours it took.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

myke2010

You don't own your cable lines or cable programming.

The cable company provides a service. MS doesn't provide an online service. You already pay your ISP for that. MS doesn't provide your server, you already own it. MS doesn't provide the game, you already own it. MS provides nothing and you pay them $50.

Oh ok. Makes sense now. So in reality, Im not paying M$ to maintain, update and upgrade their service which happens to be very reasonably priced? Im paying them to sit down in a cage like a bunch of trained monkeys and look at each other. Oh ok, I guess that last major update that I downloaded from live not only didnt add various enhancements to my console and the service, it did nothing.... :shock:

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

Magical_Zebra

You don't own your cable lines or cable programming.

The cable company provides a service. MS doesn't provide an online service. You already pay your ISP for that. MS doesn't provide your server, you already own it. MS doesn't provide the game, you already own it. MS provides nothing and you pay them $50.

Oh ok. Makes sense now. So in reality, Im not paying M$ to maintain, update and upgrade their service which happens to be very reasonably priced? Im paying them to sit down in a cage like a bunch of trained moinkeys and look at each other. Oh ok, I guess that last major update that I downloaded from live not only didnt add various enhancements to my console and the service, it did nothing.... :shock:

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

myke2010

You don't own your cable lines or cable programming.

The cable company provides a service. MS doesn't provide an online service. You already pay your ISP for that. MS doesn't provide your server, you already own it. MS doesn't provide the game, you already own it. MS provides nothing and you pay them $50.

Oh ok. Makes sense now. So in reality, Im not paying M$ to maintain, update and upgrade their service which happens to be very reasonably priced? Im paying them to sit down in a cage like a bunch of trained moinkeys and look at each other. Oh ok, I guess that last major update that I downloaded from live not only didnt add various enhancements to my console and the service, it did nothing.... :shock:

Exactly. All you get with Gold is P2P servers. That's it. Silver is free and it gets everything else.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

myke2010

You don't own your cable lines or cable programming.

The cable company provides a service. MS doesn't provide an online service. You already pay your ISP for that. MS doesn't provide your server, you already own it. MS doesn't provide the game, you already own it. MS provides nothing and you pay them $50.

Oh ok. Makes sense now. So in reality, Im not paying M$ to maintain, update and upgrade their service which happens to be very reasonably priced? Im paying them to sit down in a cage like a bunch of trained moinkeys and look at each other. Oh ok, I guess that last major update that I downloaded from live not only didnt add various enhancements to my console and the service, it did nothing.... :shock:

Im sorry, I wasnt aware that you could play online and download full versions of arcade games with Silver... :shock:

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]So why doesn't MS make Xbox Live free since it's P2P? It's not like they have servers to maintain. If it's so cheap, and MS makes $14 billion a year, why can't they afford to make it free? Like you said, it's only 14 cents a day. Chump change for MS to provide free online for the 10 million Xbox 360 users.gmastersexay

According to Major Douchebag (Nelson) the $50 fee goes toward bandwidth costs. You would think with all that money going toward bandwidth, the Xbots would be able to downlaod that Bioshock demo back in August faster than the fours hours it took.

Took me 30 mins... :shock:

Online gaming will be a standard in the futrue. I expect all console to have a great online service. No reason to jump on the first train called XBL. I'll stick with the PSN and its growth.

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Did I INFER that YOU didnt have a job? NO I DIDNT. But because you happen to not have a job, you took it that way. I OWN My SAMSUNG hdtv. I can take a hammer to it and smash it into tiny bits and SAMSUNG cant do a damn thing about it. With that said, USING YOUR LOGIC why do I have to pay a monthly cable bill to USE MY TV??? :shock:

Magical_Zebra

You don't own your cable lines or cable programming.

The cable company provides a service. MS doesn't provide an online service. You already pay your ISP for that. MS doesn't provide your server, you already own it. MS doesn't provide the game, you already own it. MS provides nothing and you pay them $50.

Oh ok. Makes sense now. So in reality, Im not paying M$ to maintain, update and upgrade their service which happens to be very reasonably priced? Im paying them to sit down in a cage like a bunch of trained moinkeys and look at each other. Oh ok, I guess that last major update that I downloaded from live not only didnt add various enhancements to my console and the service, it did nothing.... :shock:

Im sorry, I wasnt aware that you could play online and download full versions of arcade games with Silver... :shock: