I Agree With Cliffy, I dont Understand Mirror's Edge

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#1 PSP107
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http://n4g.com/gaming/News-226965.aspx
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#2 VendettaRed07
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i understand mirrors edge.. I just dont like it
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#3 Cedmln
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Then you're brain cannot properly conprehend maybe? I'm asking since its pretty simple what the game is about.
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#4 RotaryRX7
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I agree with this part:

Many might be able to see how Cliffy may be a bit TOO addicted to guns and that you don't necessarily need a TON of em' in order to have a great and, in Mirror's Edge's case, beautiful game.

Cliffy is a gun-addict...

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#5 killab2oo5
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I understand it...and love it.
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#6 lawlessx
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cliffy...shut up.

a game that is in first person view needs to have massive ammounts of gunplay?please.. instead of trashing this game people should be thankful it's something different.

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#7 IronSalamander
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its pretty much a parkour game.

and i love it, i played the demo 5 times, and i will probably play it again, and see how i can complete the level differently than last.

i just hope its not too short :(

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#8 FunkyHeadHunter
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Then you're brain cannot properly conprehend maybe? I'm asking since its pretty simple what the game is about. Cedmln

I like this reply best. I dont understand Gears Of War? Its bland, dull, grey, its the only game I have EVER played that hurts my eyes and gives me a sick feeling. And everyone is built like giant freeks of steroid GODS...I just dont get it.

Mirrors Edge is different, cool, and gives you an adrenialen"spelling" rush like I havent had in a long time...

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#9 VendettaRed07
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the only thing about this game is that because of the lack of combat, and your mostly on the run, the story i think should be more compelling than, you have to deliver a message.. yay. Or the world should have like, you know more people in it that you can run through or interact with.
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#10 Espada12
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Well i do agree that people could be chasing you to spice things up(dunno if the game already has that). But he hasn't played the game and is going by previews so yea :p
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#11 -Sniper99-
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Then maybe Cliffy's an idiot
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#12 Ibacai
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I disagree with Cliffy B on this point. That's what I'm excited about in Mirror's Edge.
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the only thing about this game is that because of the lack of combat, and your mostly on the run, the story i think should be more compelling than, you have to deliver a message.. yay. Or the world should have like, you know more people in it that you can run through or interact with.VendettaRed07



We really don't know much the story. I'm sure it won't be Paperboy.
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#14 gunswordfist
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Oh great now people will think Cliffy B is a gun lovin' moron. Cliffy B will always have my respect but I wish he would just not talk about games 'you don't get.'
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#15 Blazerdt47
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I don't understand why Cliffy makes the stupidest comments I have ever heard. This guy deserves no respect. All he cares about is GeOW, typical fanboy. MOVE ON PEOPLE!!!
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#16 krunkfu2
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sometimes it's cooler to just beat the hell out of someone with your body instead of having to shoot them

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the only thing about this game is that because of the lack of combat, and your mostly on the run, the story i think should be more compelling than, you have to deliver a message.. yay. Or the world should have like, you know more people in it that you can run through or interact with.VendettaRed07
Games are about gameplay, not story. Nobody is going to buy ME for its story. They want to do some First Person parkour.
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#18 darth-pyschosis
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Cliffy B is a moron who got lucky. He doesn't understand Mirrors Edge, he doesn't understand Metal Gear Solid 4, he is the guy who you see at the mall who just talks for hours about the newest action flicks, who is in the new die hard, the new terminator, etc. but when you stop talking about those movies and ask him if he liked american history X, Crash, etc.

Cliffy B probably thinks Stephen Colbert voted for John McCain.

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#19 VanHelsingBoA64
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he doesn't understand Metal Gear Solid 4,

darth-pyschosis

Hmm? Cliffy B has stated he's actually a Kojima fan.

Although, I do agree this was a rather dumb thing to say.

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#20 insanejedi
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Cliffy B is a moron who got lucky. He doesn't understand Mirrors Edge, he doesn't understand Metal Gear Solid 4, he is the guy who you see at the mall who just talks for hours about the newest action flicks, who is in the new die hard, the new terminator, etc. but when you stop talking about those movies and ask him if he liked american history X, Crash, etc.

Cliffy B probably thinks Stephen Colbert voted for John McCain.

darth-pyschosis

And that makes you not sleep at night? He is who he is. Are you going to yell at people for not getting Emo music then? Some games klick with some people and some don't.

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#21 funnymario
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the only thing about this game is that because of the lack of combat, and your mostly on the run, the story i think should be more compelling than, you have to deliver a message.. yay. Or the world should have like, you know more people in it that you can run through or interact with.VendettaRed07
Except the game is isolated to roof tops and the story says you have to do things as quickly as possible. Maybe some fellow runners you chat with, but I don't think anything else would work.
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#22 kid_who_grew_up
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The music is what really makes this game EPIC. The start of the Demo level where Fait runs down the buliding gave me chills. GEOW gives me "Ok lets go online and pawn noobs"
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#23 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Cliffy B is a moron who got lucky. He doesn't understand Mirrors Edge, he doesn't understand Metal Gear Solid 4, he is the guy who you see at the mall who just talks for hours about the newest action flicks, who is in the new die hard, the new terminator, etc. but when you stop talking about those movies and ask him if he liked american history X, Crash, etc.

Cliffy B probably thinks Stephen Colbert voted for John McCain.

insanejedi

And that makes you not sleep at night? He is who he is. Are you going to yell at people for not getting Emo music then? Some games klick with some people and some don't.

no i don't mean to sound that serious, i just find Cliffy to spew pure stupidity.

he is a terrible speaker, even in interviews for some reason.

i just think his approach to gaming is similar to the people who go out and see only big name summer block busters, but don't see the smaller gems during the rest of the year, like Miracle at St. Anna, and W.

i wonder if Cliffy voted for change??

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#24 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]the only thing about this game is that because of the lack of combat, and your mostly on the run, the story i think should be more compelling than, you have to deliver a message.. yay. Or the world should have like, you know more people in it that you can run through or interact with.gunswordfist
Games are about gameplay, not story. Nobody is going to buy ME for its story.

:S

I'd buy ME for its story. It is an RPG after all.

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#25 Jedifro
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Hmm, this sounds like something I have heard before. A game that is innovative and stretches a popular genre is met with criticism and dislike. Typical response to something that strays from the norm. We need these kind of games to bring a little difference to all the sequels that are coming out this year. We also need them to continue to expand the industry.
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I hope it's not all just running and jumping. As long as there's something chasing me...even Mario had Goombas, you know?"

lol... I guess he doesn't know much about this game because they've already shown that the game has enemies. And as for not showing off the actual gunplay, they're doing that because the platforming is what's unique about the game. You can play the whole game without firing a single bullet if you want. But if you don't want to you don't have to. But they want to emphasize that difference between this game and other games.

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#27 Planeforger
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]the only thing about this game is that because of the lack of combat, and your mostly on the run, the story i think should be more compelling than, you have to deliver a message.. yay. Or the world should have like, you know more people in it that you can run through or interact with.SSCyborg

Games are about gameplay, not story. Nobody is going to buy ME for its story.

:S

I'd buy ME for its story. It is an RPG after all.

He was clearly talking about Mirror's Edge, not Mass Effect (also, Mass Effect had a -very- disappointing story that ended just when it was getting interesting, but that's off-topic).

But yeah, I agree that there are some games, like RPGs and adventure games, that people will buy for their stories. Mirror's Edge won't be one of those games.

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#28 peacenutman
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Clliffy B is one of those typical jock gamers who only play gun and sport games, I thought everyone already knows this.

A guy who calls himself Dude Huge and says (more) badass all the time pretty much proves he is a jock.

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#29 andrewt1187
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Cliffy B is a tool.
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#30 dark-warmachine
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Since we all seem to be playing the "Lets Diss Cliffy B" game, I'm just going to call him short. That's all I can think of, sorry.
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#31 glitchgeeman
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That's sad really, but I guess I honestly feel sorry for anyone who can't see the sheer beauty of Mirror's Edge. Ah well, at least unlike fanboys, Cliffy B. can at least back up his point by saying, "screw you, I make decent games and I'm f***ing rich!" :P

But seriously, it's a shame that he can't see the beauty in a game that doesn't need guns (there's even an achievement/trophy for not firing a single bullet). It's not about guns and violence, it's about freedom, the expression of it, and the amazing rush you get when you perform amazing physical feats that even real-life freerunners and parkour practioners could only dream of (I realize that some of the masters can pull things off like that, but amateurs like me can only fantasize about it). That, and it's got an amazing artstyle to boot, unlike a certain game thats color pallate is restricted to grey, brown, and dark blood-red.

EDIT: It seems that quite a few people know very little about the gameplay so I'll clear something up. According to previews, you WILL BE chased, a lot. The demo was meant to be an early level with little conflict required, but from what I've heard, the police and government will be pursuing you more and more aggressively as the game progresses. Of course, that's just what I've heard from previews, who knows? It might turn out to be laughably easy.

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#32 Stoner-Pimp
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The music is what really makes this game EPIC. The start of the Demo level where Fait runs down the buliding gave me chills. GEOW gives me "Ok lets go online and pawn noobs"kid_who_grew_up

I have to agree with you on that, the music at the start of the demo (Lisa Miskovsky - Still Alive) is just pure win and really gets you in the mood to do some serious jumping about, i love the song.

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#33 naruto7777
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wow all gamers want are guns
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#34 JangoWuzHere
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people still listen to Cliify? hes a dim wit. Really he is a total idiot.
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#35 ReaperV7
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whats not to understand? your chick...your a freerunner...you shoot guns...you fight people...you jump from building to buidling in a huge urban city....
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#36 Jamiemydearx3
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Mirror Edge is good, but the gun play is very..Very terrible. As is the A.I.
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#37 glitchgeeman
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Mirror Edge is good, but the gun play is very..Very terrible. As is the A.I.Jamiemydearx3

If I'm not mistaken, the gun play is meant to suck. The game encourages you to NOT use guns. Why would anyone buy Mirror's Edge with the intent of playing it as a shooter? You're supposed to find creative ways to beat your opponents, and firing a gun is not very creative (unless you're going to do it Stanglehold style in slow-motion :P).

I will admit though, the AI is pretty stupid, I hope they get tougher in the later levels.

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#38 Zenkuso
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I agree with everyone else that cliffy is a idiot :P
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#39 n00bkid
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cliffy...shut up.

a game that is in first person view needs to have massive ammounts of gunplay?please.. instead of trashing this game people should be thankful it's something different.

lawlessx

I totally agree with you, there is finally something new coming to the table that i can barely wait for

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#40 67gt500
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Uh, hello? It's a girl game - you're not supposed to understand it...
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#41 htotheo
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but there are people chasing you, i remeber seeing the video where faith is being chased by a helicopter and you have to weave through tonnes of industrial looking stuff.
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#42 Toriko42
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cliffy...shut up.

a game that is in first person view needs to have massive ammounts of gunplay?please.. instead of trashing this game people should be thankful it's something different.

lawlessx
He's not trashing it, he said it looked great. Did you read it?

He just wants to see some gun play.
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#43 ronniepage588
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cliffy b is like micheal bay. they can't understand anything that doesn't blow up with lots of fire.
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#44 Ragashahs
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why is cliffy B the go to guy for impressions of other games? i'm not saying that don't like him(i kinda hate him) but i'm saying why are we the gamers giving this guy so much weight? he's a great at making games and thats it. he hates on a lot of games for no real reason sometimes. he felt gears 2 was so much superior to resistance 2. show some respect geez you don't see ted price from insomniac insulting your game
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#45 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Thank God he didn't work on the Metroid Prime series.
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#46 skrat_01
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Cliffy is not going to agree with you calling him Cliffy

Its Dude Huge now.

Too put it simply, ME seems to have a far better core design than Gears.
Honestly from a design perspective he seems to be a decent designer, however hardly a conuessure or top dog of design.

Is it going to be a better game? We'll wait and see.

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#47 FrozenLiquid
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To put it succintly:

Oh my god, it's a game not revolving around guns.....

How.... how could that be?

Cliffster, go to DICE studios and find out. Now!

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#48 dr-venkman
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This is like Michael Bay saying he didn't understand an "art film". Cliffy BS is no different then the wannabe self proclaimed "hardcore" gamers in SW. Guns and Guts is, in his opinion, what makes a game good and mature. Make a Gears like game without a duck and cover system and we'll see how great it is... Oh wait! It's called Unreal... And we all know how that turned out. His entire Gears series is based around the duck and cover mechanic. Not that thats a bad thing, but thats the only way the game survives. Without it, the game is run of the mill.
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#49 Wanderer5
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I hope it's not all just running and jumping. As long as there's something chasing me...even Mario had Goombas, you know?".

>_> Shows how much he knows about the game.

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#50 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]Mirror Edge is good, but the gun play is very..Very terrible. As is the A.I.glitchgeeman

If I'm not mistaken, the gun play is meant to suck. The game encourages you to NOT use guns. Why would anyone buy Mirror's Edge with the intent of playing it as a shooter? You're supposed to find creative ways to beat your opponents, and firing a gun is not very creative (unless you're going to do it Stanglehold style in slow-motion :P).

I will admit though, the AI is pretty stupid, I hope they get tougher in the later levels.

terrible excuse.

If you are going to implant a feature its best for the devs. to make it work its best.

I know its not a shooter but if you are going to allow guns and such then at least make those parts fun.