I am apparently not a gamer because I own a Wii

So I think the first game I ever played was Hard Hat Mack on the Apple II GS.

Then there was the Space Quest Series, and when we got a PC, it was Quest for Glory, King's Quest, Monkey Island, and Dark Forces.

I still remember my heart skipping when I saw that epic 8 bit dragon at the end of the first dungeon in Legend of Zelda; at that time I kind of sucked at games, and it was an incredible feat to see what lay in the room beyond it.

I've gone through almost every Final Fantasy, I've played online with games as early as Jedi Knight. We had LAN parties with Starcraft and NOX. I was among the first generation to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and we had a lot of fun with Golden Eye.

I took a two year break from games, but when I got back, I whipped through the Metal Gear Solid series, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, Ratchet and Clank, Viewtiful Joe, I tried it all.

I pwned my friends the first time I played Halo, and had a blast with Smash Bros everytime we had a party.
I never owned a Gamecube though, after playing older Nintendo games, I just couldn't find the newer ones to be fun anymore, as they were the same. I started getting into Resident Evil, and I still love Resident Evil 4 which I owned on the PS2 before I got my Wii.


Looking at the console War, I was, for this generation, in seeking a new system looking for one that could provide different experiences and challenges. So far there isn't one.

What I've seen on the X-Box 360 and the PS3 are me-toos and graphic upgrades; nothing special.

Ultimately, I got a Wii though, because my Wife wanted it. I'm glad I did though, because Smash Bros. Brawl is every bit as good as Melee was and better. More importantly, I can finally now play Smash online with my friends back home. I don't need the other systems to do that, because if I want to play an online FPS, I have plenty of PC games that provide better experiences than what the newer consoles have to offer.

And now suddenly I'm not a gamer anymore, because the Wii is a "Casual system."

I've always thought I was a gamer, I've done most of what there is to do by way of video gaming; but I guess I'm wrong, the internet wins. I bought the wrong system apparently.

What's up with this idea? If anything the Wii has the most potential for uniqueness and innovation. I don't think it has even come close to living up to that potential, but it's there. I fear that the other two consoles however are doomed to mediocraty, forever cloning what was done last generation simply because everyone is at a loss for ideas.
I wouldn't mind playing MGS4, but that's mostly a fanboy response, and I don't think the PS3 is worth the hit to my bank account for just one game.

Apparently your not a gamer anymore

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if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

I have a PS2 and a Laptop capable of playing the less shiny versions of anyting available on the 360 or PS3.

Like I said, everything this generation so far seems to be just a graphics upgrade of what the last generation did. That or the game is already available on the PC.

Apparently being frugal or looking for new gaming experiences makes me less of a gamer too.

if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

that's a very tunnel-vision response. isn't it all a matter of personal preference?

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.mstc_Q

I have a PS2 and a Laptop capable of playing the less shiny versions of anyting available on the 360 or PS3.

Like I said, everything this generation so far seems to be just a graphics upgrade of what the last generation did. That or the game is already available on the PC.

Apparently being frugal or looking for new gaming experiences makes me less of a gamer too.

Give this man an internet

if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

Agreed. I just don't understand people who do this.

Ultimately, I got a Wii though, because my Wife wanted it.mstc_Q

I bought the PS3 instead of the 360 because of my wife. No way in hell would i choose a system because my casual gaming wife told me so. I'm the gamer, I know what will serve all the best. Not her. You should have done the same thing.

Yeah, you get to play mario, zelda, mario, mario, mario, and kirby but that's it. Well, okay, have to be fair. There are lower-end versions of thrid-party software to enjoy.

I prefer to have one system that can please everyone who comes into my home. I get the hardcore games, the casual games, the blu-ray player, the media server, and the motion sensing. Can't be done, in this quality, on any other console.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

that's a very tunnel-vision response. isn't it all a matter of personal preference?

How can you get the full experience just owning a 360 or PS3? To get the "full experience" wouldn't you need to own all of the systems?

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.The_Dan_K

Agreed. I just don't understand people who do this.

Ultimately, I got a Wii though, because my Wife wanted it.mstc_Q

I bought the PS3 instead of the 360 because of my wife. No way in hell would i choose a system because my casual gaming wife told me so. I'm the gamer, I know what will serve all the best. Not her. You should have done the same thing.

Yeah, you get to play mario, zelda, mario, mario, mario, and kirby but that's it. Well, okay, have to be fair. There are lower-end versions of thrid-party software to enjoy.

I prefer to have one system that can please everyone who comes into my home. I get the hardcore games, the casual games, the blu-ray player, the media server, and the motion sensing. Can't be done, in this quality, on any other console.

I wouldn't have gotten the Wii even if it weren't for my wife. But as I said, being able to play smash online with my friends is a bonus.
People that don't buy every system of each generation are probably like me; college students on a budget. I have to have a pretty good reason to buy a system...
And the hardcore games of this generation are nothing more than better looking copies of the hardcore games of last generation. I have yet to see anyting that would challenge me or excite me in any way more than what has already been done.

Right now, on the Wii, I personally have 3 games (Not my wife's games) - Resident Evil 4, Smash Bros, and Eternal Darkness (It's a gamecube game, but I never played it last generation, so I wanted to see what the fuss was about.)

I'll probably not buy another single game unless something with a little more meat comes out. If one of the other systems offers a better menu than they have for the nearly the last two years of existence, then I'll buy one of them. So far there hasn't been anything all that impressive; except in the case of visual goodness; but when the next generation arises, that'll be moot anyway.
It might be because my first games consisted of stick figures in 4-bit graphics, but playing my games in the highest degree of visual presentation has never been all that important to me; I play games for fun.

And what constitutes "Hardcore" anyway?

When I played WoW, people would have described it as "Willing to kill the same monster over and over again until you can level up." Maybe not in those words, but that is what they were implying.

Hardcore to me, is pushing yourself to the limits of challenge. It requires a personal epiphany, a learning experience where you have to improve your reflexes, your timing and coordination, or your strategy to win.

In a multiplayer setting, the growth of the player base provides this for you; but as I said, there is nothing this new generation that provides it any better than last generation, except that more people are moving to the next generation leaving the servers dry; except I tend to play with my friends (Who are also gamers) anyway.
As for single player, there is little to show for uniqueness and challenge relative to the past.

I recently got the Orange Box for the PC... Oh wait, I already have a PC; guess that goes back to what I said before.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

that's a very tunnel-vision response. isn't it all a matter of personal preference?

i don't think the TC ever said anything fanboyish. as i said before, its a matter of personal preference. i own a 360 and Wii, and will soon own a PS3 because of games i am interested in. To say Wii only owners are just Nintendo fanboys is ridiculous. that's like saying all 360 only owners are lemmings, and all PS3 only owners are cows. you get whatever experience you want out of games, regardless of system.

"The full experience" is overrated junk. I found most the multiplats, CoD4 in particular, to be a boring pile of steaming ****. Anyway, just advising you to not fall for the "full experience" hype like I did :( Though Soul Calibur 4 might be fun ^_^

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.The_Dan_K

Agreed. I just don't understand people who do this.

Ultimately, I got a Wii though, because my Wife wanted it.mstc_Q

I bought the PS3 instead of the 360 because of my wife. No way in hell would i choose a system because my casual gaming wife told me so. I'm the gamer, I know what will serve all the best. Not her. You should have done the same thing.

Yeah, you get to play mario, zelda, mario, mario, mario, and kirby but that's it. Well, okay, have to be fair. There are lower-end versions of thrid-party software to enjoy.

I prefer to have one system that can please everyone who comes into my home. I get the hardcore games, the casual games, the blu-ray player, the media server, and the motion sensing. Can't be done, in this quality, on any other console.

Good points. High Velocity bowling, Tekken DR

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

that's a very tunnel-vision response. isn't it all a matter of personal preference?

I am by no means a nintendo fanboy.

I could rant about how samey the Legend of Zelda series has become, or how repetitive the other franchises are.

Nintendo games were obviously made to cater to new gamers. I think they are trying to be everyone's first. This creates fanboys, it's really an incredible marketing scheme when you think about it. I don't let nostalgia blind me though; I know what's good.

And right now there's nothing really to be said about the gaming world. Everyone is still painting the same picture with a more sophistocated pallet.

Do you play video games on your wii? Congrats, you are a gamer.

/thread

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.meetroid8

that's a very tunnel-vision response. isn't it all a matter of personal preference?

How can you get the full experience just owning a 360 or PS3? To get the "full experience" wouldn't you need to own all of the systems?

Do you play video games on your wii? Congrats, you are a gamer.

/thread

Andrew_Xavier

Someone has found the point of this thread!

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Do you play video games on your wii? Congrats, you are a gamer.

/thread

mstc_Q

Someone has found the point of this thread!

Thanks, I don't know when "gamer" became an elite title, it means "One who plays video games", since you could technically own a Virtual Boy, and play it, and be a gamer, owning a great machine like the Wii (my secondary system), surely means you are a gamer. If you were not, you wouldn't be spending hundreds on gaming.

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.ThaGreatness007

Agreed. I just don't understand people who do this.

Ultimately, I got a Wii though, because my Wife wanted it.mstc_Q

I bought the PS3 instead of the 360 because of my wife. No way in hell would i choose a system because my casual gaming wife told me so. I'm the gamer, I know what will serve all the best. Not her. You should have done the same thing.

Yeah, you get to play mario, zelda, mario, mario, mario, and kirby but that's it. Well, okay, have to be fair. There are lower-end versions of thrid-party software to enjoy.

I prefer to have one system that can please everyone who comes into my home. I get the hardcore games, the casual games, the blu-ray player, the media server, and the motion sensing. Can't be done, in this quality, on any other console.

Good points. High Velocity bowling, Tekken DR

My wife loves High Velocity, Pixel Junk Monsters, GO! Puzzle, and Rock Band. In fact, Xmas eve this last year was spent with my entire family (my parents, 60 years old +, never ever play games) and they loved it. That was ages 6-60.

You get the great casual games PS has always been known for carrying. And the quality of these titles is great.

Then, for gamers like me, you get GTA, Warhawk, Uncharted, EA Sports (today's graphics), Heavenly Sword, Burnout, Assasins, MGS4, etc. etc.

If you only bought the Wii for your wife, doesn't that make her the gamer??
How does buying the Wii for her make you the gamer? It sounds like you are just trying to justify your $249 purchase on her. At least it's cheaper than jewelry just be happy with that.

if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

If you only bought the Wii for your wife, doesn't that make her the gamer??
How does buying the Wii for her make you the gamer? It sounds like you are just trying to justify your $249 purchase on her. At least it's cheaper than jewelry just be happy with that.

EmperorSupreme

maybe because he's playing games on the wii? just a hunch. :P

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.Haziqonfire

So I think the first game I ever played was Hard Hat Mack on the Apple II GS.

Then there was the Space Quest Series, and when we got a PC, it was Quest for Glory, King's Quest, Monkey Island, and Dark Forces.

I still remember my heart skipping when I saw that epic 8 bit dragon at the end of the first dungeon in Legend of Zelda; at that time I kind of sucked at games, and it was an incredible feat to see what lay in the room beyond it.

I've gone through almost every Final Fantasy, I've played online with games as early as Jedi Knight. We had LAN parties with Starcraft and NOX. I was among the first generation to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and we had a lot of fun with Golden Eye.

I took a two year break from games, but when I got back, I whipped through the Metal Gear Solid series, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, Ratchet and Clank, Viewtiful Joe, I tried it all.

I pwned my friends the first time I played Halo, and had a blast with Smash Bros everytime we had a party.
I never owned a Gamecube though, after playing older Nintendo games, I just couldn't find the newer ones to be fun anymore, as they were the same. I started getting into Resident Evil, and I still love Resident Evil 4 which I owned on the PS2 before I got my Wii.


Looking at the console War, I was, for this generation, in seeking a new system looking for one that could provide different experiences and challenges. So far there isn't one.

What I've seen on the X-Box 360 and the PS3 are me-toos and graphic upgrades; nothing special.

Ultimately, I got a Wii though, because my Wife wanted it. I'm glad I did though, because Smash Bros. Brawl is every bit as good as Melee was and better. More importantly, I can finally now play Smash online with my friends back home. I don't need the other systems to do that, because if I want to play an online FPS, I have plenty of PC games that provide better experiences than what the newer consoles have to offer.

And now suddenly I'm not a gamer anymore, because the Wii is a "Casual system."

I've always thought I was a gamer, I've done most of what there is to do by way of video gaming; but I guess I'm wrong, the internet wins. I bought the wrong system apparently.

What's up with this idea? If anything the Wii has the most potential for uniqueness and innovation. I don't think it has even come close to living up to that potential, but it's there. I fear that the other two consoles however are doomed to mediocraty, forever cloning what was done last generation simply because everyone is at a loss for ideas.
I wouldn't mind playing MGS4, but that's mostly a fanboy response, and I don't think the PS3 is worth the hit to my bank account for just one game.

mstc_Q

I get that attitude around here a lot--as if "real gamers" all play the same games on 360 and PS3. Most people here unjustly group people as "hardcore/real gamer" or "casual/fake gamer" solely based on console choices this generation.

You get lots of people (too much eslim) putting others down.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

If you only bought the Wii for your wife, doesn't that make her the gamer??
How does buying the Wii for her make you the gamer? It sounds like you are just trying to justify your $249 purchase on her. At least it's cheaper than jewelry just be happy with that.

Ontain

maybe because he's playing games on the wii? just a hunch. :P

A gamer would've bought it for himself. Just because he plays SSBB doesn't make him a gamer.

Hey Protoman, regarding your sig...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

I guess this means Pokemon beats Halo...

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.too_much_eslim

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

If you only bought the Wii for your wife, doesn't that make her the gamer??
How does buying the Wii for her make you the gamer? It sounds like you are just trying to justify your $249 purchase on her. At least it's cheaper than jewelry just be happy with that.

EmperorSupreme

maybe because he's playing games on the wii? just a hunch. :P

A gamer would've bought it for himself. Just because he plays SSBB doesn't make him a gamer.

Some of the responses on this board have me convinced that most people on the internet have absolutely no reading comprehension abilities whatsoever.mstc_Q

lol reading is for noobs

Since when has being a "true gamer" something to be proud of? I own a 360 wii/ds and I play my wii more than my 360.

If all you own is a Wii than yes, you are not a gamer.noobs-a-buck

What if it had a Halo remake?

If all you own is a Wii than yes, you are not a gamer.noobs-a-buck

if you are being serious id love too see some reasons why you think this

[QUOTE="noobs-a-buck"]If all you own is a Wii than yes, you are not a gamer.Eponique

What if it had a Halo remake?

Then it would be one of the best consoles on the market! Duh! But Bungie does not choose everyone as their prophet and Nintendo is not one of the faithful has not seen the light or witnessed the revealation.

well...my grandma owns a wii..i guess shes a gamer

lawl

Hey Protoman, regarding your sig...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

I guess this means Pokemon beats Halo... mstc_Q

I remember when I first saw that post, I was thinking "Are you serious?"

Anyways, it's cool that you are enjoying the Wii. Really, most of the semi-casuals I know have Xbox 360 or PS3... go figure. My six-year-old cousin has an Xbox 360 Elite for his first console. Not that the Wii doesn't have lots of casuals...

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]if it is the only system you own I feel sorry for you.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="noobs-a-buck"]If all you own is a Wii than yes, you are not a gamer.noobs-a-buck

What if it had a Halo remake?

Then it would be one of the best consoles on the market! Duh! But Bungie does not choose everyone as their prophet and Nintendo is not one of the faithful has not seen the light or witnessed the revealation.