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The service has been around since, what?, 2005 and this is the first time the price has been changed? If so that is damn good. And you get what you pay for.
FYI you don't need to know someones name to friend invite.... you just have to go to the list of people you have meet.
As for justifying cost to play games online... good luck with that.
[QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]The point is. Microsoft is just greedy. The price jump wasn't necessary. But, im making it out to be. It doesn't damage you at all. It's an extra 5 cents a day. Its a five year old service, Live users should count themselves lucky it didn't happen before that. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap....but Xbox Live subscribers received all of those features before the price hike. :?
3DSOG
The point is. Microsoft is just greedy. The price jump wasn't necessary. But, im making it out to be. It doesn't damage you at all. It's an extra 5 cents a day. Its a five year old service, Live users should count themselves lucky it didn't happen before that. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap. It's half the price of world of warcraft.[QUOTE="3DSOG"][QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]
...but Xbox Live subscribers received all of those features before the price hike. :?
R3FURBISHED
Its a five year old service, Live users should count themselves lucky it didn't happen before that. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap.R3FURBISHEDWho's to say we weren't unlucky that we ever had to pay in the first place? :?
IMO, I think Xbox live is SO much easier to pick up and navigate as opposed to PSN. By navigate I mean ease of use capabilities.
PSN is great, but heck, Xbox live is just the king of console online services.
Squall18
XBL and PSNis navigated almost the same way minus the advertisements :lol:
Yep. Why pay nothing when you can pay SOMETHING. The point is. In 5 years your not gonna care how much you spent on xbox live. You'll have made that money back in no time. But your memories with online gaming will be 1000x better because YOU PAID FOR THE SUPERIOR SERVICE! Money comes back. But memories are once in alifetime.IMO, I think Xbox live is SO much easier to pick up and navigate as opposed to PSN. By navigate I mean ease of use capabilities.
PSN is great, but heck, Xbox live is just the king of console online services.
Squall18
[QUOTE="Slashkice"]I guess sheep think their sooo smart cause they can memorize 12 DIGITS. Ok I'll explain it for you slower. 5.... CENTS.... EXTRA A DAY Thats the justification The justification is...."who cares?" If everything I have to pay for was raised by 5 cents a day, I'd go broke in no time at all. :?You realize you didn't provide any argument for the price hike right?
3DSOG
[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Its a five year old service, Live users should count themselves lucky it didn't happen before that. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap.UCF_KnightWho's to say we weren't unlucky that we ever had to pay in the first place? :? Live is a service, you have to pay to use the service...isn't that how things work?
[QUOTE="3DSOG"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]I guess sheep think their sooo smart cause they can memorize 12 DIGITS. Ok I'll explain it for you slower. 5.... CENTS.... EXTRA A DAY Thats the justification The justification is...."who cares?" If everything I have to pay for was raised by 5 cents a day, I'd go broke in no time at all. :? Sounds like a personal problem.You realize you didn't provide any argument for the price hike right?
UCF_Knight
[QUOTE="Squall18"]Yep. Why pay nothing when you can pay SOMETHING. The point is. In 5 years your not gonna care how much you spent on xbox live. You'll have made that money back in no time. But your memories with online gaming will be 1000x better because YOU PAID FOR THE SUPERIOR SERVICE! Money comes back. But memories are once in alifetime.IMO, I think Xbox live is SO much easier to pick up and navigate as opposed to PSN. By navigate I mean ease of use capabilities.
PSN is great, but heck, Xbox live is just the king of console online services.
3DSOG
I pay nothing for both PSN and PC gaming online (other then ISP)and have 1000x better experience because I run accross less people like you :D
[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Its a five year old service, Live users should count themselves lucky it didn't happen before that. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap.R3FURBISHEDWho's to say we weren't unlucky that we ever had to pay in the first place? :? Live is a service, you have to pay to use the service...isn't that how things work? I don't have to pay for STEAM or PSN. So how does it work again?
. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap.Dear God[QUOTE="3DSOG"][QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]
...but Xbox Live subscribers received all of those features before the price hike. :?
R3FURBISHED
How do you explain Steam,that's better and free?MonsieurXThat is a definite opinion. Maybe I just haven't been using it to its fullest...but how in the hell is Steam like Live?
. And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap.Dear God XBLG is not a achievement MMO :lol:[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]
[QUOTE="3DSOG"][QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]
...but Xbox Live subscribers received all of those features before the price hike. :?
spookykid143
Sounds like a personal problem.3DSOGIf customers can't afford products, it's very well Microsoft's problem as well.
Your absolutely right. Say, when was the last steam sale on RED DEAD REDEMPTION.ok look at it this way, steam offers all of those same things (including super meat boy) and it has always been free. lets say next week they announce a raise in the price from $0 to $10, but nothing about the service changes. how is that justifiable?
BTBAM127
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]How do you explain Steam,that's better and free?3DSOGIm comparing psn and Xbox live. Steam is OBVIOUSLY the better choice.You can't just ignore steam
Im comparing psn and Xbox live. Steam is OBVIOUSLY the better choice.You can't just ignore steam I can ignore steam when it doesn't even have this years heavy hitting games. God of war 3 Alan wake Heavy rain Halo reach red dead redemption.[QUOTE="3DSOG"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]How do you explain Steam,that's better and free?spookykid143
[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Dear God F* Guild Wars. And F* any other ***ass MMO you want to throw out. At least from my experiences the only MMO there is is that damnedable thing called WOW.And compared to MMO prices...Live is dirt cheap.
spookykid143
[QUOTE="spookykid143"]You can't just ignore steam I can ignore steam when it doesn't even have this years heavy hitting games. God of war 3 Alan wake Heavy rain Halo reach red dead redemption.What does games have to do with online ?[QUOTE="3DSOG"] Im comparing psn and Xbox live. Steam is OBVIOUSLY the better choice.3DSOG
[QUOTE="Squall18"]
IMO, I think Xbox live is SO much easier to pick up and navigate as opposed to PSN. By navigate I mean ease of use capabilities.
PSN is great, but heck, Xbox live is just the king of console online services.
FragTycoon
XBL and PSNis navigated almost the same way minus the advertisements :lol:
Seriously? The two are WAY different to me. I like the PSP dash on the PS3, but when it comes to game chat, updates, using the mic (gawd, turning on the blue tooth mic via the dashboard is SO annoying sometimes), and the PSN store can get tedious depending on what ur doing.
Live's dashboard to me is WAY more organized, easy, adn quicker.
But, then again, tahts just me. I LOVE the PS3, but I don't think PSN plus comes near to xbox live from my experiences.
[QUOTE="BTBAM127"]Your absolutely right. Say, when was the last steam sale on RED DEAD REDEMPTION.ok look at it this way, steam offers all of those same things (including super meat boy) and it has always been free. lets say next week they announce a raise in the price from $0 to $10, but nothing about the service changes. how is that justifiable?
3DSOG
RDR is not on PC
edit: i see what you did there. when was the last time civ V was on sale for the consoles?
edit 2: that ^ argument is going to go absolutely nowhere
[QUOTE="3DSOG"]I guess sheep think their sooo smart cause they can memorize 10 DIGITS. Ok I'll explain it for you slower. 5.... CENTS.... EXTRA A DAY Thats the justification The justification is...."who cares?"Slashkice
The degree of the increase isn't an explanation for the increase. You're just spinning numbers to downplay the price hike - which you wouldn't have to do if the increase was justified.
It's more like this. Lets say your in debt to a friend. If you owe him 10$ you owe him 10$ for the services he provided you. You give him 1$. Your still in debt so it's fair. Justified. You paid him more money but it's justified because your still in debt to himIronic how this works. M$ is turning into sony, adding things to xbl that gamers don't need and I don't see any lem complaining about it lol. They used to give the cows hell for that crap and now look how the tables have turned. M$ increased the price of xbl because of all the things they're thinking of adding to the service like cable tv.And the cows now attack ideals they used to defend lol, I love this place man.
[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="UCF_Knight"] Who's to say we weren't unlucky that we ever had to pay in the first place? :?UCF_KnightLive is a service, you have to pay to use the service...isn't that how things work? I don't have to pay for STEAM or PSN. So how does it work again?
I still don't get how Steam is like Live. But as I have already said maybe I'm just not using it to its fullest (probably cause I don't like Steam...probably)
And PSN is different. Sure its free...but the F* really cares? And PSN isn't really free anymore, because I don't see how you can say it is free when you are talking about the inferior service. Sure I don't pay anything for PSN, but from what I've read about Plus, I'm not getting half of what is now offered.
We are getting MORE than we paid for for xbox live You get a years worth of entertainment free demos Contests music videos. All for the same price as a game. It's like an mmorpg. Now if live went to about 85$. Then it wouldnt be justified 70$ aint that bad of a price. But around 80$....yeah.3DSOG
how about $300 and you get a free console and controller? and its a one time fee
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