I can justify the xbox live price hike

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

I can counter you: I play all my video games online for free. Thats what I want it for right? To play video games on? It is a video game console afterall. My PS3 and Wii online > Your subscription service..

3DSOG

Cross game chat isn't worth 60 dollars, and if I want to watch ESPN, I change the channel to EPSN :S Have fun wasting your money just to be able to play your video games?

...but Xbox Live subscribers received all of those features before the price hike. :?

Valiant_Rebel

it really irritates me when people try to justify a companie essentially stealing 60bucks from us and then comparing live to psn and how inferior it is. i have both. and the psn and xbox are the same, and whatever live might offer does not nearly justify the additional 60 bucks that live charges. both online services are the same, who gives a ****

In my opnion, i think that ms jacked the prices up to offset the costs of the sales they have been doing. live used to never be on sale. now that they are, they need to increase prices to sustain the losses incurred on sale.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

I can counter you: I play all my video games online for free. Thats what I want it for right? To play video games on? It is a video game console afterall. My PS3 and Wii online > Your subscription service..

3DSOG

And ESPN on Live is just letting you access espn3.com content on your 360. If your ISP does not already provide you with espn3.com service, you cannot use ESPN for Live. If they do already provide it, then you can use any device with a web browser (such as a pc or ps3) from your home or anywhere else to view that exact same espn3.com content. ESPN for Live is just another case of MS making you pay (in the form of Gold fees) for a service that you already are paying for or getting for free.

Netflix streaming

PC: free, with Nerflix subscription

PS3: free, with Netflix subscription

Wii: free, with Netflix subscription

360: requires Netflix subscription AND Gold membership

Facebook

PC: free

PS3: free

Wii: free

360: requires Gold membership

Twitter

PC: free

PS3: free

Wii: free

360: requires Gold membership

ESPN3.com

PC: free, if your isp supports it

PS3: free, if your isp supports it

Wii: free, if your isp supports it

360: available with Gold membership, if your isp supports it

Onlie gaming

PC: free

PS3: free

Wii: free

360: requires Gold membership

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

Pug-Nasty

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

Pug-Nasty

You have ESPN3 as long as your ISP has it. You don't even need cable TV.

I think they blocked it on PS3 just like Hulu, But most people here have a computer if they really wanted that service I suspect.

If you really want it on your PS3 there are ways... so I hear ;)

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

FragTycoon

You have ESPN3 as long as your ISP has it. You don't even need cable TV.

I think they blocked it on PS3 just like Hulu, But most people here have a computer if they really wanted that service I suspect.

If you really want it on your PS3 there are ways... so I hear ;)

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

FragTycoon

You have ESPN3 as long as your ISP has it. You don't even need cable TV.

I think they blocked it on PS3 just like Hulu, But most people here have a computer if they really wanted that service I suspect.

If you really want it on your PS3 there are ways... so I hear ;)

I tried it on my PC, not my ps3. I just wanted to see if my ISP supported it.

I just checked again, it has me login through TimeWarner, then tells me that my current subscription doesn't include this service. I think it used to say my ISP didn't support it, but now it says my subscription. Error messageQE12DCSN01.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

ianuilliam

You have ESPN3 as long as your ISP has it. You don't even need cable TV.

I think they blocked it on PS3 just like Hulu, But most people here have a computer if they really wanted that service I suspect.

If you really want it on your PS3 there are ways... so I hear ;)

I got tons of ESPN channels on dish so I never seen the need..... I just pulled it up on my PC though... lame collage game (pull up your pants RB!):?

back to the topic.... free on other platforms so why pay for it?

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I believe ESPN3.com access requires both your ISP supporting it and you having a subscription to ESPN on cable. I could be wrong, but that's the message I get when I tried the website, which leads me to believe I'd have to have cable with ESPN to access the website.

Pug-Nasty

You have ESPN3 as long as your ISP has it. You don't even need cable TV.

I think they blocked it on PS3 just like Hulu, But most people here have a computer if they really wanted that service I suspect.

If you really want it on your PS3 there are ways... so I hear ;)

I tried it on my PC, not my ps3. I just wanted to see if my ISP supported it.

I just checked again, it has me login through TimeWarner, then tells me that my current subscription doesn't include this service. I think it used to say my ISP didn't support it, but now it says my subscription. Error messageQE12DCSN01.

[QUOTE="coolkid93"][QUOTE="3DSOG"]Psn- You get to play online for free. Yeah great and all. But your getting a lackluster service. Xbox live gold- The creme de la creme of online gaming. You get a crapload more content. - Cross game chat Plagueless

...but Xbox Live subscribers received all of those features before the price hike. :?

Valiant_Rebel

But you aren't paying to pay RuneScape online, are you? If you are, can you imagine if you suddenly had to pay 60 bucks a year just to play online? That's actually not a bad price for something that has no alternative, but I'm not paying for Live because my PS3 has that for free and Reach has split-screen for me. Win!

Didn't Kotick say he Activision was getting money from xlive. Maybe MS gave in to Activision demands so they could guarantee their timed exclusive DLCs..themyth01