I dont get why people say Killzone will flop

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#51 ejstrup
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Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

cosmostein77

Bigger dev team, bigger budget, good previews = game could turn out ok?! :|

Stop using the first one as an excuse, it's pathetic.

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#52 vicmackey39
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

Well


  • Killzone 1 sucked. I already stated my reasoning
  • Guerilla Games suck. i already stated my reasoning
  • It's been getting fairly negative previews Last time I checked, its been getting good previews, unless you have proof otherwise
  • The enemies are all the same Yeah, Halo had a varity of enemies, but look at its score
  • it looks way too linear and boring Like Halo? Oh no, it has a really "deep" storyline
  • scripted events aren't new, they've ben around since half life 1 Scripted events will always be in games. Every game has scripted events. No AI can act out their own event. No Ai can have a converstatino with each other


I can't wait until this game flops. That will be a hilarious day
u8muhrice

You havent stated anything. All you've done is throw about accusations of jealousy over a sequel to a crappy game from crappy developers

and Non-one is saying that Halo has a deep storyline, but it's certainly more interesting than fighting some dudes in gas masks because "they are evil". As fo comparing Guerilla to Bungie :lol:

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#53 SecretPolice  Online
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also despite how linear Halo is, look at its scoreu8muhrice
Just wow - never, ever thought of those HUGE levels with free roam with land & air vehicles with literally dozens of ways to attack those levels as being on rails and linear but that's just me. ;)

On topic:

Pedigree !

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#54 megaton3k
Member since 2007 • 515 Posts

I think everyone should hold off their opinions until we actually see an official review conformation. If it scores an AAA, people will be resurrecting old flop threads such as this one to try to own someone.

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#55 darthogre
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The same people saying Killzone 2 will flop are the same that said Ninja Gaiden 2 was a guaranteed AAA GOTY contender.

That should tell us something about these people.

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#56 u8muhrice
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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"]also despite how linear Halo is, look at its scoreSecretPolice

Just wow - never, ever thought of those HUGE levels with free roam with land & air vehicles with literally dozens of ways to attack those levels as being on rails and linear but that's just me. ;)

On topic:

Pedigree !

linear? Yeah, halo is linear cause theres only one ending. You start out from A and then end at point B. Yeah, huge levels, but its not free roam... you could roam around the level, but you were limited to certain boudaries

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#57 rickjamesxx
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Okay, there is no reason for anyone to say this or infact, to any other game. Seriously, have you played it? Cause I havent. I understand that you think its a just a linear FPS game with pretty visuals, but doesnt that sound like something similar? Halo?

Seriously, dont even argue this, im not bashing Halo.. but in reality, thats what Halo is. A linear game with a typical sci fi plot (youre a super commando that has to save the planet from destruction). However, it doesnt make it a bad game, its FUN. The multi player is fun, I dont see why Killzone wont be fun.

People seem to forget that a fun game doesnt make it a flop.

To those who say Killzone will flop, it really is just out of jealousy. I know it. Seriously, if anyone think it will flop, please state your reason and I will love to debate with you

u8muhrice

sci fi plot[ super commando saves planet from destruction] ???

You have just proven that you know virtually nothing about halo's story

plz never post on gamespot ever again

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#58 rickjamesxx
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i hope killzone 2 doesnt flop but with guerrilas track record its very possible that kz2 might flop into oblivion

but dont sit here and bash halo

obviously you know virtually nothing about its story and your saying its linear because you go from point a to point b? 90% of the games in todays market are like that you have an objective and you complete it

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#59 bobbetybob
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Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

cosmostein77

Thing is that all the things wrong with the first one, like you insinuated are not to do with the conecept. It was the aiming which for some reason spazzed everywhere, the grenades that made you lose aim, the dodgy crouching, bad AI, AMAZINGLY OVERPOWERED enemy grenades. All things that can be easily fixed. If they fixed all those problems, which from what I've seen they have, then the game should get at least an 8.

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#60 rickjamesxx
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im actaully interested in killzone 2 and if it gets good scores most likely ill buy it

HOWEVER the chances of it being at halo level is still slim to none

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#61 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

u8muhrice

Okay, I see what youre saying, HOWEVER, dont you think they will just improve/learn from their miskates? also its on a NEW SYSTEM. They have a bigger and better hardware to develope their game on. I dont see why it wont be an improvement from the first

halo was on a new system...but that didnt stop it from flopping..the only reason the reviews were good was because of advertising.

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#62 heretrix
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[QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

ejstrup

Bigger dev team, bigger budget, good previews = game could turn out ok?! :|

Stop using the first one as an excuse, it's pathetic.

Yeah because that worked out so well for Superman Returns.
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#63 heretrix
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The same people saying Killzone 2 will flop are the same that said Ninja Gaiden 2 was a guaranteed AAA GOTY contender.

That should tell us something about these people.

darthogre

The same people hyping Killzone 2 are the same people that were hyping Lair and Haze.

That should tell you something about these people.

:|

Generalizations for the win.

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#64 ff7isnumbaone
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killzone 1-6.9. killzone psp-8.0, killzone 3-AA?. With amount of money they received, only guarantees it will be better than the first.
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#65 True-Legend86
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The prequal got a 6.9, and it's the same development team.yoshi-lnex

Incorrect..Its the same developer team plus some 100more.

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#66 Willy105
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Here are my personal reasons, I doubt anybody will have the same reasons:

  1. It looks generic. No colors. Just black and some grey. Destructable enviroments, some enemies, and guns. Again?
  2. It emphazises on graphics too much. Gives off great hype but not great reviews.
  3. It's a sequel to a flop. Rarely does a sequel of a flop become not a flop.
But that's just me.
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#67 True-Legend86
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[QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

heretrix

Bigger dev team, bigger budget, good previews = game could turn out ok?! :|

Stop using the first one as an excuse, it's pathetic.

Yeah because that worked out so well for Superman Returns.

Guess you never really watched the old superman movies have you. Returns is miles better than it.

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#68 True-Legend86
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Here are my personal reasons, I doubt anybody will have the same reasons:

  1. It looks generic. No colors. Just black and some grey. Destructable enviroments, some enemies, and guns. Again?
  2. It emphazises on graphics too much. Gives off great hype but not great reviews.
  3. It's a sequel to a flop. Rarely does a sequel of a flop become not a flop.

But that's just me.Willy105

Spoken like a true fanboy. Congratulations!!!

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#69 Willy105
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

True-Legend86

Bigger dev team, bigger budget, good previews = game could turn out ok?! :|

Stop using the first one as an excuse, it's pathetic.

Yeah because that worked out so well for Superman Returns.

Guess you never really watched the old superman movies have you. Returns is miles better than it.

We are talking games. Superman Returns: The Videogame was hyped by the developer a lot with lots of people, money, and good previews.

BTW, Superman 2 (Richard Donner)>Superman 1>Superman 2 (regular)>Superman Returns>>>>>>>>>>>Superman 3>Superman 4.

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#70 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

Here are my personal reasons, I doubt anybody will have the same reasons:

  1. It looks generic. No colors. Just black and some grey. Destructable enviroments, some enemies, and guns. Again?
  2. It emphazises on graphics too much. Gives off great hype but not great reviews.
  3. It's a sequel to a flop. Rarely does a sequel of a flop become not a flop.

But that's just me.True-Legend86

Spoken like a true fanboy. Congratulations!!!

Really? How?

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#71 vicmackey39
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The thing that baffles me is people who are sure this game wont flop
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#72 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

Play the first one,

Unless Guerilla took all the developer from the first one and walled them inside a tomb to prevent them from ruining an amazing concept yet again, I have little hope Killzone 2 will be that much better then your standard FPS.

True-Legend86

Bigger dev team, bigger budget, good previews = game could turn out ok?! :|

Stop using the first one as an excuse, it's pathetic.

Yeah because that worked out so well for Superman Returns.

Guess you never really watched the old superman movies have you. Returns is miles better than it.

Superman returns was complete garbage....Superman:The movie, although it was made in the seventies, it outclasses that crap in every EXCEPT special effects. Why do you think they patterned Returns after the first movie and tried to just continue the story?